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You should see an eye doctor.
Agreed mate. I have to say, over the last year or so TLD is slowly becoming my go to Bond movie. I've always loved it, but I've almost 'rediscovered' it. It's just brilliant.
Judging from Most of your previous comments "Brian Cells" is what you use. I am using Brain Cells,which might explain my dissatisfaction with SF's screenplay.
I rediscovered it last year myself, first viewing it was in my top 5; 2nd viewing it was #1.
First of all, I said an argument can be made. Such an argument can be made and has been made by others not necessarily myself but off the top of my head as I haven't seen the movie in a while, starting things off, the awful PTS. Imo; questionably avenging Tracy, Bond nonchalantly killing Blofeld, in one of the most ridiculously, tedious, asinine action sequences, resulting in an even more embarrassing death for a character who's been further reduced to...I don't even know what the hell he was reduced to, some kind of, second tier, sub-par, sideshow joke of a character. There's Bibi, Thatcher and don't get me started on the absurdity of Moore scoring goals by knocking the hockey goons into the back of the net...honestly, FYEO is Moore's most restrained entry in the series and overall a good outing but it is by no means a masterpiece and is wholly inferior to SF. If there's anything else I find to be stupid, I'll have to come back after watching it again.
However, this has nothing to do with putting previous movies down to defend SF. I have defended and simultaneously criticized SF without having to mention previous Bond movies but given the nature of the debates or rather the arguments going on, previous movies are being cited to prove a point and that's something those vigorously lambasting SF have been doing constantly.
I'm a realist and I know exactly what the Bond films are. I enjoy them and I know full well it's really all nonsense. Fantasy usually is just that; a bunch of nonsense. However, if you and SOME others are going to launch some Jihad and going to throw around weak arguments and make silly generalizations on those that do like SF and declare the movie as being awful or bizarrely, the worst in the series when, Bond movies that predate SF are far more explicitly guilty of being tremendously more flawed and far more outlandish and nonsensical then be prepared to have other movies within the series delved into and face the same scrutiny you put SF under. After all, it's to serve a purpose and a point for the sake of these so called arguments going on around here.
The blind disdain for the movie is almost amusing. The desperation to be heard in getting what is just your opinion (you'd do well to be mindful of this fact) bashed over the heads of everyone here reeks. No one is forcing you to like the movie. If you don't like it and are disappointed then fine, it's a shame but don't piss on people's joy and try to kill what should be a celebration of a series and the film's success and unconditional assurance of additional Bond movies. It's just not cool and a huge disrespect to fellow posters.
I like to think we all love the Bond movies. They are fun and have provided years of glorious entertainment but launching a crusade on the movie and on some of those that do like it is pathetic. It's simple. Many people like it and many people don't. What's the problem? To me, Connery is the best Bond ever to others he's not. Big deal, who cares?
As for my comment about every single movie, it's true, in every movie one can find an argument to make about somethings not making sense but then again, what movie is unequivocally perfect? You and a minor group of others go around punishing SF for doing what not just every other Bond movies has done but what all movies do. Get a grip, mate. The horse is dead.
Oh and thanks @Tuulia.
After years of swapping them around between 1st and 2nd place I've decided LTK is my no 1 favourite because I prefer the villian but I do love TLD. It was my first Bond film and I'm glad I had such a brilliant one to introduce me to the series.
I do hope that Craig gets some great adventure movie yet otherwise he'll be rememebered as the 00 that needed serious therapy instead of great movies.
For Bond 24 I'd like a more straight forward Bond movie that focuses more on the plot than Skyfall did. SF seemed entirely focused on the characters and I think the story suffered for it.
This video is really funny
http://youtu.be/eV9LGA8L4GI
As I remember the suggestion of a delicatessen in stainless steel deserves the Bald man stroking a pussy in a wheelchair a one way ticket down with love from gravity. SO Rogers 007 agreed with your statement.
The opening of Roger visiting the grave of his wife was GREAT, what followed next was a bit meeeh.
But the sinking boat and the race for the Gizmo was a brilliant 007 actioner that showed the toughest 00 in Rogers reign.
And to my personal taste DC has not yet been offered such a good movie yet. If he were he would probably get depresive about the snow or whatever.
(you're welcome)
Give me Spy, OP and LALD over FYEO any day.
You are right, I got you and the AVTAK/TWINE mixed up with someone else, and I apologize for the error. But then we have this gem directed at Willy, who is as real a Bond fan as any-
Now that's an arrogant thing to say in a place where we have fans who started watching Bond films when Connery was the one and only Bond. I'm one of them. 44 years a fan. How long have you been a fan?
BURN. :-\"
heh, yeah he deffo lost a bit over the 4 years! It was thin-ish even in Casino though.
While I would never call AVTAK a great Bond film, I will defend the villains who are a reason I don't mind an occasional watch. Chris Walken is one of the best of them ever, and Willoughby Gray also great as his "Dr. Frankenstein". Aside from the risk of blindness from Rog's bedroom scene with Grace, she was mostly a good henchwoman until her and Zorin turned on the other.
You're damn skippy Brady. He's got some cajones coming here as a newbie and throwing his weight around without knowing who he's dealing with, I'll give him that.
There's a lot of people here, including some intimately associated with the franchise, whose boots he couldn't lace. If he's as smart as he thinks he is, he'll reconsider barking up the tree of people like myself and Willy. It won't otherwise turn out well ;)
TLD has an excellent PTS I agree but the last bit just feels a bit silly and cheesy to me now. It's a holdover from
Moore. At least CR wipes it's slate clean. That's why I prefer it.
I think the best of all the PTS's is either GF or TSWLM.
I think the end of the TLD PTS is actually the icing on the cake. Without it the PTS would be a bit po faced and over earnest. I don't see it as a hold over from Rog, I just think it's classic Bond.
Any way I agree with you about GF and Spy. GF is probably my favourite PTS. Spy is gloriously, wonderfully OTT - the Rog era at its height.
But really, nobody does it better than Dalton.
If you read the whole conversation between me and jet set willy you will see he insulted me first and second if I recall.
I wouldnt call it arrogant to defend myself I would call it having self respect.
I even tried to to offer the olive branch with some humour but got no reply, but hey it hasnt bothered me half as much as it seems to have bothered you.
I have been a bond fan since christmas 1982, when I was 6, when moonraker was on, still get a great feeling whenever I watch it. I know how corny some parts are but I still have a special place for it.
Ho ho ho - you sure know how to wind up SirHenry. He luuuurves MR!
Keep up the good work though. There's a bit of a bully/vigilante vibe afoot at the moment and more than a touch of pomposity in addressing new members. I don't buy this nonsense that you have to watch GE and CR back to back for a month before you have the right to comment.
Whats his problem with MR?
lol
CR is a solid film. It's not a personal favourite but I can see its merits. Vesper, Mathis and Le Chiffre add real class and weight to the film, as does DC's performance. IMO QoS is just a more enjoyable film. However, I'd still sit down to watch a lot of the oldies first before choosing to watch those two.
Exactly. It has all the classic Bond ingredients in what, 10 minutes? Probably less. You have the brilliant stunt, the nasty enemy agent, the nice location, the fit girl in the bikini, etc. It's like a mini Bond movie and it's fantastic. Dalton nails it from the second he turns to face the camera.
It also sets up the rest of the film nicely with the smert shpionam message.
@Getafix Check out the TSWLM appreciation thread. We need more love for Spy on this site.