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Casino Royale 1954

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  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    ggl007 wrote: »
    Legend says that in The Long Goodbye adaptation is when one character is shot and he stands up... on screen!

    During a lot of years it was said that this happens with Le Chiffre, but it wasn't the case...

    There's more than one version though so I'm not entirely sure about that.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Of CASINO ROYALE? Yes, there are two, it doesn't happen in either.

    Oh, so then it's got mixed up with something else?
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    As was stated above, it got mixed up with the THE LONG GOODBYE episode (the first), where that actually happens.
    So it seems, but have you seen it?... Me, neither

    ;) :D
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    Good article. I knew the story and I really want to see that!

    Can someone explain what "live broadcast" means in CR'54? Was it recorded with public? But we have various sets and different takes that had to be edited sometime... ??
  • JCRendleJCRendle
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    ggl007 wrote: »
    Can someone explain what "live broadcast" means in CR'54? Was it recorded with public? But we have various sets and different takes that had to be edited sometime... ??
    It was filmed and broadcast live.

  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
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    ggl007 wrote: »
    Good article. I knew the story and I really want to see that!

    Can someone explain what "live broadcast" means in CR'54? Was it recorded with public? But we have various sets and different takes that had to be edited sometime... ??

    It aired lived in the eastern half of the United States. It was filmed as it was broadcast. So, for the West Coast telecast, you saw the filmed copy.

    Yes, there were different sets. In Casino Royale, there was this one long shot of the casino as the camera moves. All done live. That's how it was done in those days.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    But how could you change the editing? I mean how could you change from a close-up to a general and so on? How huge could be the set? For example when Bond leaves the elevator, we see him through a long corridor... How many cameras or sets this involved??
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
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    ggl007 wrote: »
    But how could you change the editing? I mean how could you change from a close-up to a general and so on? How huge could be the set? For example when Bond leaves the elevator, we see him through a long corridor... How many cameras or sets this involved??

    It's like a live sports telecast, with multiple cameras. Director says which camera to switch to. The associate director presses a button or flips a switch, changing which camera is going out live.
  • GerardGerard
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    If you want a more recent example, it was done in an episode of ER (the one where Alex Kingston joined the cast). It was filmed and aired live. The cast and crew had to do two takes, one for the East Coast, the other for the West Coast (and there were a few little differences between the two takes). It also aired at the same time in France. So yes, not only can it be done, but it has been done quite a few times.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    It's an amazing work and I can't imagine the problems that can emerge...
    Thank you all.
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
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    ggl007 wrote: »
    It's an amazing work and I can't imagine the problems that can emerge...
    Thank you all.
    ggl007 wrote: »
    It's an amazing work and I can't imagine the problems that can emerge...
    Thank you all.

    I'm not the expert on this, but I know they would have done a run-through so the cameramen would practice where they'd move the cameras.

    Here's another live broadcast that's 007 related. This What's My Line? installment was aired live in fall 1965. The camera movements are much simpler, of course.

  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    Thanks, @AlexanderWaverly

    I've seen that but, as you said, obviously that's not a drama and doesn't need sets or hundreds of rehearsals! ;)
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Connery minus Bond hair piece!
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    The article explaining the goof in The Long Goodbye and announcing Nelson for next episode...

    http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1954/10/08/page/18/article/where-to-dial-today
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
    edited August 2015 Posts: 2,115
    Minor correction: It's announcing Nelson for the broadcast after next. The Chicago Tribune article is from Oct. 8, 1954, the day after The Long Goodbye. The next broadcast was the 13th Chair on Oct. 14, with Casino Royale following on Oct. 21.

    More importantly, it's nice to see this vintage newspaper story. So thanks for posting.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    Minor correction: It's announcing Nelson for the broadcast after next. The Chicago Tribune article is from Oct. 8, 1954, the day after The Long Goodbye. The next broadcast was the 13th Chair on Oct. 14, with Casino Royale following on Oct. 21.

    More importantly, it's nice to see this vintage newspaper story. So thanks for posting.
    Correct! I wasn't sure CR has been the second or the third.

    These articles are also available: Gould, Jack. "Television in Review: 'Climax'." The New York Times. 8 October 1954 (p. 34).

    Los Angeles Times. "Corpse Walks Away During Drama on TV." 9 October 1954 (p. A8).

    but you have to pay to have the pdf.

    If anyone could share, I would appreciate that :D
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    Very interesting image from a TV Guide: http://www.archivo007.com/index.php/peliculas/television/casino-royale-tv

    cr_promo4.gif

    Apparently, it is from June 1955. It looks like a rehearsal, but was there another re-broadcast?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I often wonder, if Peter Lorre hadn't been in this film, mightn't Eon have thought about him for one of their films? I regret that this incredibly bizarre character never starred opposite Connery in one of his Bond films.

    masters_new_lorre.review.jpg

    Imagine him as Goldfinger, or Largo, or Kronsteen, ...

    But then EON also ignored some other great Peters:

    Where was Peter Ustinov when they made Bond movies?

    Where was Peter Cushing when they made Bond movies?

    So many unfortunate cases of iconic actors never starring in a Bond film.
  • Risico007Risico007
    edited January 2016 Posts: 9,855
    Lorre would of been great in Bond and Nelson I think could of made a good bond if he did research on the character before playing him.

    the what is interesting is the Show Climax could of easily been entirely forgotten had it not be for their version of Casino Royale funny how life is.
  • GerardGerard
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    Peter Lorre is still the best Chiffre. No contest. But Eva Green is the best Vesper.
  • vzokvzok
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    Is the DVD of CR67 with CR54 as an extra the only way to buy CR54? I've seen separate DVDs of CR54 on ebay and wasn't sure if they were just knock-offs.

    The version of CR54 - is the picture quality any different to what you can find on youtube?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited April 2016 Posts: 15,423
    @vzok, there is a DVD for CR54 released by the Spy Guise in its full form. Track it down if you can. You won't be disappointed.

    EDIT: On second thoughts, this link could work: http://amzn.com/B0012D7GYM
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    @vzok, there is a DVD for CR54 released by the Spy Guise in its full form. Track it down if you can. You won't be disappointed.

    EDIT: On second thoughts, this link could work: http://amzn.com/B0012D7GYM
    "Color"??
    [-X
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    ggl007 wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    @vzok, there is a DVD for CR54 released by the Spy Guise in its full form. Track it down if you can. You won't be disappointed.

    EDIT: On second thoughts, this link could work: http://amzn.com/B0012D7GYM
    "Color"??
    [-X
    Must be a typo on their part. Lol!
  • vzokvzok
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    Thanks guys for all the information.

    I did see this once, probably 30 years ago. I did enjoy it and hope to purchase it again in as good quality as is available.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    I need to replace my copy of the 54 CR. Got lost in a move recently. I'll probably just track down the '67 DVD that has it a s a special feature.
    I first saw it when it was released on VHS in '89. I remember thinking Barry Nelson's Bond was a bit more like Wally Cleaver as opposed to the 007 we all know and love.
    Still, I'm a huge fan of this version- a tight almost noirish live TV black and white thriller that's fun to watch late at night.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Careful, there are copies out on that have the ending chopped off (Le Chiffre holding the razor blade to Valerie's throat), I've bought two like that. I finally found one that is complete on Blu Ray, but carp quality.

    Look out! Common-carp-Pat-Tully.jpg

    Sorry, couldn't resist.
  • stagstag In the thick of it!
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    Unfortunately it appears the you tube CR video has been removed.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    stag wrote: »
    Unfortunately it appears the you tube CR video has been removed.

    Oh no. I still have to watch it. I really need to buy a copy of it soon.
  • stagstag In the thick of it!
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    stag wrote: »
    Unfortunately it appears the you tube CR video has been removed.

    Oh no. I still have to watch it. I really need to buy a copy of it soon.

    I hadn't heard of it until I read this thread & was all set to watch when..................

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