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  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited April 2011 Posts: 13,355
    Quoting DarthDimi: So will they at least respect Fiennes' talents and give him some quality
    material to deal with.
    Well going by what we know we can tell his role is described as "a darkly complex" one.

    We've also been told "Fiennes is not interested in the usual run-of-the-mill action ­picture, but he was intrigued when he was told of Mendes’s ‘revolutionary’ plans for Bond 23." So here's hoping they don't plan on wasting him. It certainly doesn't appear to look that way.

    Fiennes was "approached because ‘the part is one of extreme complexity and only an actor of great ability and dexterity can take it on — and Ralph’s name is top of our list’."

  • BounineBounine
    edited April 2011 Posts: 2,599
    Encouraging words, certainly, but at the risk of sounding too negative here, we always hear that things will be shaken up and something special and different will happen, then the end product is just the same old run of the mill generic action picture. I hope I am wrong but it's difficult for me to get my hopes up with these contemporary Bond films. Eon sit in on these editing sessions too. Who knows how much stuff they demand to be cut out in favour of all the physical stuff.
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,847
    well according to the Daily mail he and Javier Bardem are officially signed and of course every internet site is running with it.
  • danslittlefingerdanslittlefinger
    edited July 2011 Posts: 886
    http://www.slashfilm.com/javier-bardem-ralph-fiennes-confirmed-bond-23-naomie-harris-added/?utm_source=Movie+Magic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:+slashfilm+(/Film)&utm_content=Twitter

    Meanwhile, there’s the question of who might sing the theme to Bond 23 and Bond composer David Arnold still wants Amy Winehouse, who was courted for Quantum of Solace but didn’t do the theme thanks to her own personal issues. Recent tour problems suggest those issues haven’t gone away, so this doesn’t seem the most likely move. She’d be good for the theme, no doubt, but so would Adele, who David Arnold also mentions.
  • JBFan626JBFan626
    edited July 2011 Posts: 1,497
    Wow! Nice find @danslittlefinger -- if that article carries any weight. Naomie Harris as Moneypenny! There's some news!

    **EDIT - Sorry I missed that this was already covered in another discussion ^

    What about Fiennes and Bardem? The article makes it seem pretty certain they are signed on. Is that official?
  • danslittlefingerdanslittlefinger
    Posts: 886
    Wow! Nice find @danslittlefinger -- if that article carries any weight. Naomie Harris as Moneypenny! There's some news!

    **EDIT - Sorry I missed that this was already covered in another discussion ^

    What about Fiennes and Bardem? The article makes it seem pretty certain they are signed on. Is that official?

    I guess unless it's confirmed by EoN, they we'll never know although some official news should be coming soon surely?

  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2011 Posts: 15,718
    I would imagine Bardem and/or Fiennes would have said by now they aren't doing B23... Rumours about them have been circulating for months now, so if they still haven't denied these rumours... Sounds official to me.
  • Char35tChar35t
    Posts: 289
    agreed those two working in the film will be great....

    Javier a Turkish agent? :)
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,847
    where did u hear he'd play a turkish agent?
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    Posts: 4,399
    @DaltonCraig..

    typically, in Hollywood - no one confirms rumors (even if true), until they've signed the dotted line, or until they are told that they can by EON or the studio - it all depends on what type of confidentiality clause that is attached to their contracts..... i know when actors, directors or whoever are in talks, or about to sign, they usually sign some sort of confidentiality agreement along with their contract for the film........ so it might be where they would like to tell, but can't - until they are given word to.....

    it's probably a done deal - especially with Bardem, now that Dark Tower is on the back burner..

    and Naomi Harris (possibly) as Moneypenny?.... i can accept that...
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,847
    So Fiennes Bardem and Harris are all in bond 23?
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    So Fiennes Bardem and Harris are all in bond 23?
    that is the way it looks...... but nothing is 100% official until EON confirms it.

  • Char35tChar35t
    Posts: 289
    I was thinking about Javier being Kerim Bey.

    that trio with DC would be mind blowingly awesome.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
    Posts: 422
    The amazing villain talents in the Brosnan era were wasted on rubbish, OTT, 1 dimensional characters. The villain talents in the Craig are are also wasted on under-developped, too low-key characters. And they got way too small screetime. Obanno? Mollaka? Fisher? Dryden? Mitchell? Elvis? All have less than 5 minutes of screentime. It seems that the Craig era has too low-key and under-developped villains, and henchmen with too small screentime. Both extremes, in other words. A better balance should be found for B23.
    Right On The Money

  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    Posts: 4,399
    The amazing villain talents in the Brosnan era were wasted on rubbish, OTT, 1 dimensional characters. The villain talents in the Craig are are also wasted on under-developped, too low-key characters. And they got way too small screetime. Obanno? Mollaka? Fisher? Dryden? Mitchell? Elvis? All have less than 5 minutes of screentime. It seems that the Craig era has too low-key and under-developed villains, and henchmen with too small screentime. Both extremes, in other words. A better balance should be found for B23.
    that i do agree with.... but i don't want to see henchmen with some sort of cheesy defect return, just for the sake of having them.. *cough cough* Zao...

    if you aren't going to have noteworthy henchmen, then the villain has to be memorable, and strong enough - ie: Largo in Thunderball - none of his henchmen has anything really distinguishable that set them apart like Jaws or Oddjobb - but his presence was enough to overshadow them...

    i thought Stamper in TND was an admirable henchman - i just wish they would've gone a little deeper with exposition, about how pain gives him pleasure (literally)
  • LudsLuds MIA
    Posts: 1,986
    I agree as well with DC and others about the wasted talents in the Brosnan / Craig eras, one of the things that bothers me with the Craig flicks is that there's too many people. Rather than develop main villain and main henchman, they seem to want to have all small potato villain with some screen tome and some personality. There's just no time.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2011 Posts: 15,718
    What was the point of the Mitchell and Mr. Slate characters, other than giving an excuse for 2 action scenes ? They barely have 2 minutes of screentime AT MOST... How about that Greene henchmen who shoots Haines' body guard and doesn't reappear until the final scene... only to be shot within 40 seconds after his reapperance... What was Elvis' purpose ? He only trips in a stair and gets blown up at the end before firing his gun...

    Same with Obanno in CR... What can he do with a 3 minutes screentime... half of it devoted to another pointless fight in stairs... What about Mollaka ? He gets introduced 45 seconds before his major chase, and gets killed barely 6 minutes later... And most of the shots of that chase are devoted to Bond... What about Fischer and Dryden in the CR PTS ? What were their purpose in the film ? Better off just mention them if you're going to give them 2 minutes of screentime as well... And the bald Le Chiffre henchmen? He only puts money in a car, gives le chiffre his phone and cuts the chair for the torture scene...

    And Mr White ?? What's his purpose in the films ? He gets shown for 5 seconds at the start of CR... another 5 seconds shot 2 hours later when he shoots Le Chiffre... Another 5 seconds shot when he takes the money from the water... His only 'big' scene is the last scene of CR... And in QOS ?? He gets a small 50 seconds interrogation... and shows up 1 hour later for 15 seconds and a simple one-liner.... He's entirely useless... He's only 'memorable' because of the final scene of CR... Seriously... he gets touted as a mysterious important guy... But he appears for 20 seconds every 1.5 hours or so... How useless can a character be ?? If he doesn't appear in any more films, he'll be the most under-used potential memorable villain in the whole series... his only big scene is the end of CR... And Craig takes all the light in that scene... Mr White NEEDS to be the head of Quantum... He can't just show up again in a 3rd film for 1 minute a the start and 20 seconds at the end, 2 hours later...
  • BounineBounine
    edited July 2011 Posts: 2,599
    Well, if Fiennes is doing it then unless they really give him a chance to showcase his wonderful acting abilities they might aswell cast Justin Bieber in the role. The talented Mathieu Amalric was horribly under used in favour of a grotesque over abundance of senseless action. Eon cast these talented actors and hire character driven directors and then give us a film that would have probably looked and sounded the same if it was helmed by any generic action director. It's laughable. It's a p**s take.

    I'm pretty sceptical as to how good this film will be. I've been disappointed one to many times. Personally, I think the only good Bond film post Cubby Eon have made is Casino Royale and that was also the only film to be based on a full length Fleming yarn since the pre Brsonan era. I haven't liked any of the films excluding CR in the past 16 years.

    I'm very much into character development and playing up the psychological angle but these films always get ruined by having too many action scenes and in the Brosnan era, terrible dialogue.

    Also, while I like Judy Dench it's time she stays in her office instead of following Bond all over the world.

    I will see it in the cinema as it is Bond but I will go in expecting little.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited July 2011 Posts: 4,399
    What was the point of the Mitchell and Mr. Slate characters, other than giving an excuse for 2 action scenes ? They barely have 2 minutes of screentime AT MOST... How about that Greene henchmen who shoots Haines' body guard and doesn't reappear until the final scene... only to be shot within 40 seconds after his reapperance... What was Elvis' purpose ? He only trips in a stair and gets blown up at the end before firing his gun...

    Same with Obanno in CR... What can he do with a 3 minutes screentime... half of it devoted to another pointless fight in stairs... What about Mollaka ? He gets introduced 45 seconds before his major chase, and gets killed barely 6 minutes later... And most of the shots of that chase are devoted to Bond... What about Fischer and Dryden in the CR PTS ? What were their purpose in the film ? Better off just mention them if you're going to give them 2 minutes of screentime as well... And the bald Le Chiffre henchmen? He only puts money in a car, gives le chiffre his phone and cuts the chair for the torture scene...

    And Mr White ?? What's his purpose in the films ? He gets shown for 5 seconds at the start of CR... another 5 seconds shot 2 hours later when he shoots Le Chiffre... Another 5 seconds shot when he takes the money from the water... His only 'big' scene is the last scene of CR... And in QOS ?? He gets a small 50 seconds interrogation... and shows up 1 hour later for 15 seconds and a simple one-liner.... He's entirely useless... He's only 'memorable' because of the final scene of CR... Seriously... he gets touted as a mysterious important guy... But he appears for 20 seconds every 1.5 hours or so... How useless can a character be ?? If he doesn't appear in any more films, he'll be the most under-used potential memorable villain in the whole series... his only big scene is the end of CR... And Craig takes all the light in that scene... Mr White NEEDS to be the head of Quantum... He can't just show up again in a 3rd film for 1 minute a the start and 20 seconds at the end, 2 hours later...
    In terms of Casino Royale, with Fischer and Dryden... there was originally supposed to be a whole scene, where Bond follows Fischer to the polo club - and i believe it's on the DVD bonus features........ but with Fischer, i look at it this way..... did we really need a major backstory for the guy Bond electrocutes in the beginning of GF?... or what about Baines if FRWL? - his total screen time wasn't that much either... and he was a rather pointless character when you really think about it.... or what about the Bulgarian spy? - how much did he do? - he was only there to be a sacrificial lamb....

    i understand (and sympathize, believe me) with your comment about under developed villains... but you can only devote so much time to all those characters in a film - you really gotta narrow it down to, is it necessary or not... putting all fanboy nitpicking aside, by giving them maybe 5 extra minutes, does it add anymore to the plot of film?.. in 99% of the cases, no........ then the easiest solution is to simply not have them in there - it's like they tout "here's the next great villain or henchman", and then we get handed useless villain and nameless henchman #1....... but i do think a lot of it is also, that when we hear "so and so is being cast in the next Bond movie as a henchman" - there is a preconceived notion as to what that role will entitle, so we expect it to be an attempt at creating something memorable - but in all actuality, their role is relatively meaningless...

    i agree with @Luds... it's like they are just trying to cram in as many characters as possible, that these current Bonds can just steamroll through, without any kind of setup...... but again - how many of these characters were meant to be more than what they were? and how much of it is just nitpicking?.... i would say it's about 70-30
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    Ralph Feinnes will play a role so top secret, I swallowed a pill to make me forget what I was told.

    Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2046253/Bond-bombshell-French-beauty-Berenice-Marlohe-007s-latest-girl-meeting-Oscar-winning-directors-approval.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
  • shadowonthesunshadowonthesun Banned
    Posts: 1,894
    Tell me again why anyone at that rag can be trusted when they do this:

    http://www.mailwatch.co.uk/2011/10/03/invented-eyewitness-accounts/
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited October 2011 Posts: 4,619
    Tell me again why anyone at that rag can be trusted when they do this:

    http://www.mailwatch.co.uk/2011/10/03/invented-eyewitness-accounts/
    I can only repeat myself. From another thread:

    Here we go again... Yes, Daily Mail is a terrible newpaper. Yes, it has a lot of articles that are pure fabrication. But Baz Bamigboye (the writer of this article) is a very reliable guy, no matter which newspaper does he work for.

    Just to support what I wrote:

    ...The Daily Mail’s reliable Baz Bamigboye...
    http://whatculture.com/film/rafe-spall-joins-ridley-scotts-prometheus.php

    The ever-reliable Baz Bamigboye reports that...
    http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/archives/idris_elba_sean_harris_kate_dickie_join_the_cast_of_ridley_scotts_prometheu/

    ...the reliable UK scooper Baz Bamigboye...
    http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2010/04/madonnas-we-to-feature-sex-pistols.html
  • GermanladyGermanlady
    Posts: 6,601
    I think, its incredible tiring, when you have to get the approval of certain members, before you allow yourself to post an article. Yes, EVERYBODY does know by now, that certain papers have to be taken with more or less big grain of salt, but who will decide in the end, which article is worthy to be discussed or not? This sort of intern censorship here is getting too far.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    Fiennes on Bond 23... i mean Skyfall:

    "If you're a Bond fan, then you'll be happy. I can tell you that John Logan has written a fantastic screenplay and [director] Sam Mendes is a class act. They're doing something quite special I think. I think they're going to be great for Bond."

    "I love the Bond books particularly. I like the books even more than the films. I like the darkness of the books. But I've also enjoyed all the films."

    "I always wished they'd done a Bond set in 1955 in the Cold War like a Graham Greene novel. But no, this is just a great piece of screenwriting and the human drama at the center of this is quite affecting. And it's full of amazing stunts and action sequences."

    Will he get to join in on the stunts and action sequences? Fiennes took a long pause. "I can't answer that question," he said. "I don't get laid, that's for sure."

    Source: http://www.ifc.com/news/2011/11/ralph-fiennes-on-bond-skyfall.php
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    If hope Fiennes' love for the novels rubs off on everyone else. I'm looking forward to all the news yet to come our way.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    Fantastic read. My optimism for this movie has gone from 100 to 300%
  • bondboy007bondboy007
    Posts: 267
    I love everything I've seen so far. The press conference was awesome, this Fiennes interview is awesome. Cannot wait for more news!
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited November 2011 Posts: 4,619
    Now clean-shaven once again, Fiennes refused to say whether his work later this month on the upcoming Bond film “Skyfall” will require any further distract ‘do measures, but when the Playlist asked about rumors whether he’d play famous Bond villain Ernst Stavros Blofeld in the film, Fiennes played coy. “I can’t say anything more,” he said with a grin, having already discussed with The Playlist about how screenwriter John Logan (who wrote “Coriolanus”) was partly responsible for Fiennes appearing in the new ‘Bond’ film because “because he wrote this really interesting part which is really quite fun.”

    When we asked him directly if he would be playing Blofeld he laughed once more. “I can’t say anything,” he said, but then did allow this: “I will not be stroking a white pussy!” Is that a straight-up denial or perhaps a coy response to how his character would be different from the antagonist who appeared in the Bond films, “Thunderball,” “On Her Majesty’s Secret Service,” and “You Only Live Twice”? We’ll leave that up to you to decide.

    Source: http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/archives/ralph_fiennes_teases_blofeld_skyfall_shakespearean_adaptation_coriolanus/

    I don't know why people keep thinking he'll play Blofeld. He won't. If Blofeld appears in Skyfall at all, Bardem will be the actor to play him.
  • danslittlefingerdanslittlefinger
    edited November 2011 Posts: 886
    I just read that Ralph Fiennes was seen with Craig today, whether on set or off, I have no idea. I believe it was mentioned on Twitter.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    I just read that Ralph Fiennes was seen with Craig today, whether on set or off, I have no idea. I believe it was mentioned on Twitter.
    You just read about it but don't remember where?

    http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/10/01/jackie-chan-hates-rush-hour.jpg
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