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  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
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    This is a good analysis worth a look for fans of the film.

    @CraigMooreOHMSS quietly confident about WW, Gadot's likability will be a positive factor.

  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Christopher Reeve is the greatest superhero actor EVER!
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Yes he was. It's a shame no one of his caliber is around.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Apparently Matthew Vaughn is being eyed to direct Man of Steel 2:

    http://collider.com/man-of-steel-2-director-matthew-vaughn/
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    Apparently Matthew Vaughn is being eyed to direct Man of Steel 2:

    http://collider.com/man-of-steel-2-director-matthew-vaughn/

    If this turns out to be true then what a great choice.
  • Seven_Point_Six_FiveSeven_Point_Six_Five Southern California
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    Vaughn has got some solid films under his belt. He wouldn't necessarily be my first choice, but I would be pleased if he got the gig. I don't know why but I don't get the feeling he'll sign on though.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    He's a director that knows how to be fun, and right now, Superman needs that.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    He's a director that knows how to be fun, and right now, Superman needs that.

    Ain't that the truth. The whole dour disposition Snyder's imposed on the character is all types of wrong.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Man of Steel was a good starting point with a heavy basis in how the character was used in Superman: Earth One, but BvS should've continued to develop him.

    In MoS you see him ready to take his place as Earth's protector, then in BvS it's like none of the events in that film ever happened and he learned nothing, because he spends the whole film moping about how the planet isn't his, his mission is a myth, he's not a hero and a bad person, yada yada yada.

    Of course, if you know what kind of parents he had/has, it's no wonder he turned out like that. Pa wanted him to let a bunch of kids die only to protect himself, and Ma never helps him decide anything, only giving, "Do this, oooor do that" answers. That's not my Ma and Pa.
  • Seven_Point_Six_FiveSeven_Point_Six_Five Southern California
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    Affleck just opened up on Facebook about his struggles with alcoholism. I think it would be best if he would just step away from the limelight for several months and just focus on himself and his family. He's been through quite a bit over the past couple years.

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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Shit, that's heavy. Considering what was going on in his life at the time of BvS, I don't think he had to act too hard to feel weary and miserable as Bruce.

    I can't wait to see how Campea and co. are going to use this click-bait ammunition on their next broadcast to try and tie it into why we haven't gotten a solo Batman film yet and why Ben wants out of the role. Just watch.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
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    Brave of Ben to share that it's not a easy thing to deal with, hope he receives positive support from the media.

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  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    The Batman Release Date and Filming Likely Pushed Back

    http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/825955-the-batman-release-date-and-filming-likely-pushed-back#tHLxXI2PMdWTJsqO.99

    Justin Kroll ✔@krolljvar
    Also means any casting rumors you hear are likely BS seeing that he wouldn't have time to meet with any talent till at least July
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Yep, appears that filming has been delayed so the script can be rewritten from scratch:

    http://www.slashfilm.com/the-batman-screenplay-and-delays/
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Vaughn is a decent choice.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I'm actually pleased with this. Obviously we'd like a Batman film tomorrow but I trust Reeves and I also think this also gives Affleck a bit of time to sort out his personal life and not worry about the pressures of writing and directing the film.

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Reeves is busy in post for Apes anyway, so they've got time. I'm just shocked that the script is what seems to be having them troubled.
  • Risico007Risico007
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    I am hoping this doesn't mean more joker
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    I am hoping this doesn't mean more joker
    I'm sure hell be written in some way or another, unfortunately; they seem unwilling to truly take risks with villains. I don't want to see Joker period in these films, but Leto's take? I really don't want to see it.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    From that first image, I knew I wouldn't care for Leto's take on the role, but I was flabbergasted with how awful it was. As I've said in the past, even if it was a good take, I want to see the world of Batman involve some "new" villains, i.e. some great characters that have existed in the universe for decades, without getting their time to shine in the cinematic universe. Surely they needn't fall back on Two-Face, Joker, or Bane every single time. Spice it up a bit.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    From that first image, I knew I wouldn't care for Leto's take on the role, but I was flabbergasted with how awful it was. As I've said in the past, even if it was a good take, I want to see the world of Batman involve some "new" villains, i.e. some great characters that have existed in the universe for decades, without getting their time to shine in the cinematic universe. Surely they needn't fall back on Two-Face, Joker, or Bane every single time. Spice it up a bit.

    Very much agreed. I've said this so many times, but the reason Batman's villains have far more mileage than others, and would be more interesting to use, is because each of them represent some aspect of humanity and behavior. Two-Face is duality, Poison Ivy is lust, Cobblepot is elitism and greed, Scarecrow is fear, etc.

    There's plenty that haven't been used that'd be interesting. There's a lot of assassin villains that could go out on a contract for Batman's head, Man-Bat could be used to terrifying results (that man-bat creature in BvS was crazy scary) and Dr. Strange could be a very interesting foil as he knows all of Bruce's secrets.

    They could do a story where a bunch of rogues meet up to perform one scheme on Batman, but I worry that the movie would become too jam-packed and unfocused because of so many players. I can see why they are having trouble with a script at this stage if they're going for a big idea like that, as most of the biggest names have been used and it's hard to keep it fresh.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I recall playing 'Batman: Arkham Asylum,' and coming across some information for 'The Great White Shark,' which I thought would've made for a great grounded-yet-OTT villain. There's such a wide variation of characters in the universe, they needn't limit themselves to rehashing the same five villains endlessly.

    EDIT: Adam Cozad will pen 'Suicide Squad 2':

    http://www.slashfilm.com/suicide-squad-2-screenwriter/
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    A very fair analysis of the state of the DCEU, what BvS did right and what needs to change in the films:


    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I recall playing 'Batman: Arkham Asylum,' and coming across some information for 'The Great White Shark,' which I thought would've made for a great grounded-yet-OTT villain. There's such a wide variation of characters in the universe, they needn't limit themselves to rehashing the same five villains endlessly.

    EDIT: Adam Cozad will pen 'Suicide Squad 2':

    http://www.slashfilm.com/suicide-squad-2-screenwriter/

    What's with all the talk of Mel Gibson being courted for SS2? Is that a substantiated fact or just a rumor the outlets are treating as one? I can't see Mel ever settling for these low-end films.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, they've discussed it with him, and he either is/was in talks. After hearing him talk negatively about the likes of BvS, and knowing his talents would be better utilized on something more original/something he'd have full creative control over, I don't see it happening, nor would I want it to.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, they've discussed it with him, and he either is/was in talks. After hearing him talk negatively about the likes of BvS, and knowing his talents would be better utilized on something more original/something he'd have full creative control over, I don't see it happening, nor would I want it to.

    I think they'd have to pay him boatloads to even consider it, but as we can see they usually go the cheap route and blow the budgets on the films themselves instead of the talent behind the films. Knowing Mel's personality and what he wants in his films, I just can't ever see him agreeing to any of it, especially when they have no script or cast to show him. He makes films the old-fashioned way, where you actually know what you're making before you go into it.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, they've discussed it with him, and he either is/was in talks. After hearing him talk negatively about the likes of BvS, and knowing his talents would be better utilized on something more original/something he'd have full creative control over, I don't see it happening, nor would I want it to.

    I think they'd have to pay him boatloads to even consider it, but as we can see they usually go the cheap route and blow the budgets on the films themselves instead of the talent behind the films. Knowing Mel's personality and what he wants in his films, I just can't ever see him agreeing to any of it, especially when they have no script or cast to show him. He makes films the old-fashioned way, where you actually know what you're making before you go into it.

    Agreed. Hell, even when on a lower budget and with time restraints he may not care for, he still cracks out the best of the best (he shot 'Hacksaw Ridge' for $40 million in less 40-50 days max). The main thing keeping him from doing 'Suicide Squad 2' would inevitably be how much control he has.

    I keep wondering how hard it is to find a solid director for, say, 'The Batman,' then I realize just how much baggage comes with it: trying to craft a perfect film, with the studio heads constantly jumping in to have their say or tweak things how they'd want it, on top of knowing the shitstorm headed your way if your film is a dud? I don't blame Affleck from dropping out of directing duties in the slightest.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    @Creasy47, you're right, and superhero films are probably the biggest gambles in the movie climate right now. When these films take over $250 million to make, or BvS's $400 plus million, you're betting an insane amount of money on a product that you can never guarantee will be a hit. Marvel have been able to earn audience trust, making their projects easier to market, but DC have to prove themselves more and more with each film that fails to hit the sweet spot. When the movies don't do insanely well at the BO and break even or profit from that high price point, there's all that money burnt.

    Hopefully the success of lower-budget films like Fox's recent Deadpool and Logan will show people that you don't always have to go bigger and bigger with films to make profit. Characters like Batman work really well on a low budget, because his villains don't have to have world ending plots. They're smaller capers, often built around their ideology, and with Batman's presence a lot of the stories play out like detective films, as in The Dark Knight which is essentially just a modern noir told through the lens of a superhero film. If there's any character Warner can afford to save money on, it's Batman, yet it's the hardest movie for them to get off the ground minus The Flash.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
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    Process of making a film get crew get script all is happy start shooting, age old process though mass modern media blows it out of proportion.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    fire_and_ice wrote: »
    Process of making a film get crew get script all is happy start shooting, age old process though mass modern media blows it out of proportion.

    Tell that to those as the Bond 25 Production thread. I think some lack this form of education.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    DC Films Looking to Shoot One More Film in 2017 to Fill Batman Void

    http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/827109-dc-films-looking-to-shoot-one-more-film-in-2017-to-fill-batman-void#bcXv1iCtp4jYcXuO.99


    Justin Kroll
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    That said if scripts aren't ready to go, studio is content just shooting AQUAMAN this year till films are ready to go

    There's no need for WB/DC to rush. They should know by now they'll be better off taking the time to get things right instead of rushing needlessly to meet an unnecessary self-imposed deadline.
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