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Man of Steel (2013)

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  • 001001
    Posts: 1,575
    Bloody hell ,55 on metacritic..............Ouch
  • forgotmyusernameforgotmyusername
    Posts: 2,782
    Lumbering sums it up in one word.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    Gustav_Graves wrote:
    Okay, this is inevitable. But if you compare 'Man Of Steel' with 'Batman Begins'. What movie is the better reboot?

    I shall quote myself again, because I'm still curious :-P.
  • fanbond123fanbond123
    edited June 2013 Posts: 1,661
    People aren't bothered by the mixed critical reaction to the film. MOS is predicted to get around 120 million dollars opening in the US. Looks like it's going to be a huge worldwide hit too. Man of Dollars! ;)
  • chuck007chuck007
    Posts: 172
    Gustav_Graves wrote:
    Gustav_Graves wrote:
    Okay, this is inevitable. But if you compare 'Man Of Steel' with 'Batman Begins'. What movie is the better reboot?

    I shall quote myself again, because I'm still curious :-P.

    better reboot ranking so far for me:
    1.Casino Royale
    2.Batman Begin
    3.Star Trek
    4.Man of Steel
    5.AMazing Spiderman
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    Shocking, truly awful movie. I thought Batman & Robin/DAD could never be beaten in terms of gutter trash, but Man of Steel has happily knocked them both off for the Number. 1 spot.

    This really is a bad, bad film. The action is meaningless, the characters I didn't care about, the flimsy rumour of a story has a `making it up as we go along' type attitude, characters like Lois Lane suddenly gets caught in the action, in a laughably bad sequence where she interacts with the ghostly Jor-El.

    This was the first film since DAD that I have seen at the cinema and was ready to walk out half way through, in a mixture of disgust and downright boredom.

    Given this 1/10 is being too kind. Man of Steel is one of the worst films ever made! Period!
  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
    Posts: 4,813
    He's just kidding. ;)
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    Master_Dahark wrote:
    He's just kidding. ;)

    I really wish I was.
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    Posts: 1,596
    I thought it was a pretty good movie. Super entertaining, at the least, which is all I really ask for from a movie like this.

    I agree with a few of the complaints that @jetsetwilly made, most definitely. The characters weren't developed well at all, and the movie really did feel like it was stumbling along plot-wise.

    That being said the action and much of the cinematography were top-notch, and I thoroughly enjoyed myself.
  • bondbat007bondbat007
    Posts: 1,407
    jetsetwilly wrote:
    Master_Dahark wrote:
    He's just kidding. ;)

    I really wish I was.

    Not liking it was one thing...but that's just wrong
  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
    Posts: 4,813
    It honestly is remarkable though, how literally everyone either loves it or hates it! I can't think of another movie where peoples opinions are so split

    I loved it. :D
    Gonna see it again with my dad real soon.
  • Dalton12Dalton12
    Posts: 1,107
    BOX OFFICE: MAN OF STEEL Earns $113 Million This Weekend For A $125 Million Four Day Total
    Read more at http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=81664#Ar33SuMrMPFd1SJ8.99

  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    bondbat007 wrote:
    jetsetwilly wrote:
    Master_Dahark wrote:
    He's just kidding. ;)

    I really wish I was.

    Not liking it was one thing...but that's just wrong

    What was wrong?
  • Dalton12Dalton12
    Posts: 1,107
    jetsetwilly wrote:
    bondbat007 wrote:
    jetsetwilly wrote:
    Master_Dahark wrote:
    He's just kidding. ;)

    I really wish I was.

    Not liking it was one thing...but that's just wrong

    What was wrong?

    Yeah whats wrong ?
  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
    Posts: 4,813
    If I had to guess it would be comparing it to Batman & Robin. :D

    Talk about harsh!
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    That's not being harsh that's just being obtuse.
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    doubleoego wrote:
    That's not being harsh that's just being truthful.

    I took the liberty of editing your post slightly. Hope you don't mind.....

  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    edited June 2013 Posts: 11,119
    Dalton12 wrote:
    BOX OFFICE: MAN OF STEEL Earns $113 Million This Weekend For A $125 Million Four Day Total
    Read more at http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=81664#Ar33SuMrMPFd1SJ8.99

    RATINGS AT ROTTENTOMATOES.COM:
    Tomatometer: 56%
    Average Rating: 6.3 out of 10 (Fresh: 121 reviews, Rotten: 94 reviews)
    Average review description: Superman's return to the big screen is mostly successful, as Man of Steel provides enough exhilarating action and spectacle to overcome its occasional detours into generic blockbuster territory.

    RATINGS AT METACRITIC.COM:
    MetaScore: 55 out of 100 (Yellow = Mixed/Average)

    It seems It's by no means a typical Christopher Nolan-film; it's not carrying the creative quality from the man. I haven't seen the film yet, but it saddens me to read things like 'joyless blockbuster that's only about the action and special effects'. It doesn't have the political/social relevance Nolan truly injected in his Batman films. But it also lacks the Bond-esque humour and charm portrayed by Robert Downey Junior in 'Iron Man'.

    I think the problem could be director Zack Snyder. He isn't my favourite director. His movies, like 'Watchmen' and 'Sucker Punch' were just plain bores for me. Sorry to say this. For Nolan itself this must have been a hasty writing job. And it's also sad to see WB skillfully used Nolan's name for marketing purposes. Which obviously works money-wise. But the quality of the film is another story.

    I truly expected a Batman Begins-like reboot of the Superman franchise. I guess so far I was wrong. I will judge myself next week.....
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    Gustav_Graves wrote:
    Dalton12 wrote:
    BOX OFFICE: MAN OF STEEL Earns $113 Million This Weekend For A $125 Million Four Day Total
    Read more at http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=81664#Ar33SuMrMPFd1SJ8.99

    RATINGS AT ROTTENTOMATOES.COM:
    Tomatometer: 56%
    Average Rating: 6.3 out of 10 (Fresh: 121 reviews, Rotten: 94 reviews)
    Average review description: Superman's return to the big screen is mostly successful, as Man of Steel provides enough exhilarating action and spectacle to overcome its occasional detours into generic blockbuster territory.

    RATINGS AT METACRITIC.COM:
    MetaScore: 55 out of 100 (Yellow = Mixed/Average)

    It seems It's by no means a typical Christopher Nolan-film; it's not carrying the creative quality from the man. I haven't seen the film yet, but it saddens me to read things like 'joyless blockbuster that's only about the action and special effects'. It doesn't have the political/social relevance Nolan truly injected in his Batman films. But it also lacks the Bond-esque humour and charm portrayed by Robert Downey Junior in 'Iron Man'.

    I think the problem could be director Zack Snyder. He isn't my favourite director. His movies, like 'Watchmen' and 'Sucker Punch' were just plain bores for me. Sorry to say this. For Nolan itself this must have been a hasty writing job. And it's also sad to see WB skillfully used Nolan's name for marketing purposes. Which obviously works money-wise. But the quality of the film is another story.

    I truly expected a Batman Begins-like reboot of the Superman franchise. I guess so far I was wrong. I will judge myself next week.....

    There is a reason why films like BB and TDK get such high ratings on RT, along with quality movies like SF, and why this film is struggling in the mid 50% region. It really is a bad film.

    This shambles is light years away from Nolan's Batman reboot, and the Bond reboot. This piece of stinking garbage does something I didn't think would be possible. It actually makes Superman Returns look great.

    Both my wife and I were ready to walk out of the cinema half way through, utterly bored out of our brains. Like I said earlier, I've only been tempted to do this with one other movie - DAD.

    Utter, utter crap.
  • bondbat007bondbat007
    Posts: 1,407
    jetsetwilly wrote:
    bondbat007 wrote:
    jetsetwilly wrote:
    Master_Dahark wrote:
    He's just kidding. ;)

    I really wish I was.

    Not liking it was one thing...but that's just wrong

    What was wrong?

    Giving the film 1/10 calling it the worst ever made? I respect everybody's opinion but my word...
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    This brilliant review sums it up perfectly. Mark Kermode on 5Live -
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited June 2013 Posts: 11,189
    jetsetwilly wrote:
    Shocking, truly awful movie. I thought Batman & Robin/DAD could never be beaten in terms of gutter trash, but Man of Steel has happily knocked them both off for the Number. 1 spot.

    This really is a bad, bad film. The action is meaningless, the characters I didn't care about, the flimsy rumour of a story has a `making it up as we go along' type attitude, characters like Lois Lane suddenly gets caught in the action, in a laughably bad sequence where she interacts with the ghostly Jor-El.

    This was the first film since DAD that I have seen at the cinema and was ready to walk out half way through, in a mixture of disgust and downright boredom.

    Given this 1/10 is being too kind. Man of Steel is one of the worst films ever made! Period!

    I was a little disappointed by it too (I rated it 7 but its probably more of a 6) however I wouldn't be that harsh on it. Personally I think Kermode's review is dead on, its not as meaty or punchy as the Batman flicks (the first two particularly). There were a few good scenes and Russell Crowe is enjoyable but it did feel a bit...meh to me.

    There's WAYYY too much action/CGI also.

    Plus, is it me or does Henry Cavil look like an even prettier version of a certain Irishman? ;)
  • Suivez_ce_parachuteSuivez_ce_parachute
    Posts: 2,015
    Dalton12 wrote:
    Rotten Tomato Representative Shocked At MAN OF STEEL Ratings & Calls MOS A Good Movie!

    Warner Bros own DC and Rotten Tomatoes, btw :)
  • battleshipgreygtbattleshipgreygt
    Posts: 1,220
    I feel like Nolan's involvement has been overemphasized throughout the production. Make no mistake, this is VERY much a Zack Snyder movie.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,356
    Good opening numbers but I wonder what the word of mouth will be like in coming weeks. Mixed is the word of the week for this. Zack Snyder indeed. Was he the first choice to direct this film I wonder.
  • Sammm04Sammm04
    Posts: 479
    Personally, thought it was brilliant, the special effects were slightly overused (but brilliant and looked as realistic as can be.) and the ending battle scene could have been cut down by about 3 or so minutes. I don't know how people can say the characters are underdeveloped, they get enough talking time and character building time in the scenes not involving action (trust me, the critics over exaggerate about too much action.) Shame it didn't get good reviews, because it was great, worth watching, everyone was brilliant in their role. Not a waste of money at all.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,356
    Three minutes?! The whole third act needed some serious trimming in my opinion. Don't kill me, just my view.
  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
    edited June 2013 Posts: 4,813
    They just did us the service of catching up on all the action Superman Returns didn't give us
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    @jetsetwilly I don't think it looks very good but it can't be as bad as Batman and Robin.

    I can see some similarities with this and Die Another Day though (keep in mind I'm basing this off reviews however so my opinion doesn't mean much).

    Bad character development, too much CGI, mixed reviews from critics while fans are more positive (I wonder if, like DAD, fans opinions will change over time?), etc.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    battleshipgreygt wrote:
    I feel like Nolan's involvement has been overemphasized throughout the production. Make no mistake, this is VERY much a Zack Snyder movie.

    Like I said. Nolan's name was overemphasized purely for marketing purposes. The directorial execution counts here....and that's what makes the movie bad.
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