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One small piece of advice for you young "lady" the title of this thread is Rest in Peace,show your respects to those who have passed away might I surgest that you follow that piece of advice.
One piece of small advice to you Thatcher and the effects of her goverment has always been a point of discussion so expect some remarks when everybody is all respectfull and full about her deeds. She is one of the early pioneers for our modern society which is hardly something to rejoice about but is indeed one of the last BIG politicians of the UK.
She did live by her convictions and was probably a nice person privately, and suffering Alzheimer is never something to be envious of.
Her legacy will be spoken of for a long time. And may she indeed rest in peace.
People need telling, this is someone who inexplicably lied and led the biggest cover up in British history.
This isn't someone who cared about the whole of the county she was leading, quite the opposite.
How ironic that its almost 24 years to the day that 96 fans went to a football match and never came home.
Our brothers, sisters , fathers , mothers , sons and daughters not only had to witness loved ones being crushed to death , they were also the brunt of the blame , labelled murderers .
For over 20 years a city and its people (all ready left to near near ruin by thatchers government ) has lay wounded by those lies .
In a thread that pays respect to those who have died, I pay respects to the 96.
We may have had major breakthroughs last year with the hillsborough independent panel report , but there is still a lot more work to be done until justice is served.
JFT96
David Koresh?
Idi Amin?
And how dare you try to tell me that I cannot bash this.. you know what. One of my family members died at that stadium and some grief lasts a long time, takes a long time to heal.
The thread is titled, Rest In Peace, show your respects to those who have passed away.
If you haven't got anything nice to say, then don't say it.
Why should tis thread be anything different from any other?
Any appriciation thread has its share of non-likes.
Folks, methinks @Benny spelled it out simple enough for everyone to understand. It's not cool the way you're behaving. When last I checked, we were trying to write down comforting words for one of our veteran members who's recently lost a loved one and now 80s politics get brought up to defecate all over the place.
Before you start nagging, remember that political debates never result in winners so it's simply pointless to entertain them on a JAMES BOND forum! Also, some of you are educated folk, but we have 'members' flying in and out who haven't risen above the level of a 14 year old yet and who bring nothing but crackpot bogus to the show because it pleases them to stir things up. Too bad some of you fall for that and actually keep a discussion with said kids going. You ought to know better.
No, we're not going to allow a separate thread to discuss the politics of M.T. either. There are other forums out there for that. This forum of Bond fans is simply too good for that kind of boozed up pub talk.
Unfortunately warnings are going to be sent out soon if this thing keeps going. All our hosts ask from us is to behave like decent people and if some of you can't do that, the rest of us will show you to the door. And for the record, wishing a recently deceased woman will burn in hell is not decent. Personally I wish the passing away of M.T. never got brought here for it brings us nothing but flags and PMs from normal people, politely asking us to return to an apolitical forum which, by the way, is indeed what we want it to be.
So we trust the last word on the M.T. issue has been said here and those who wish to elaborate on the matter are hereby asked to turn to appropriate Internet fora that make such talk their business.
Thank you and IFM!
One question.
Should we start a politics thread?
I don't see why we need to keep apolitical - we are all adults here, and only a coward does not stand up to their convictions or explain their views.
I for one would very much be interested in seeing a thread about Bond himself's politics - where does he lie on the spectrum.
Could be fascinating! :)
It's simple. Open up such a thread and within a few posts' time you reach heated debate with "you this or that" - "no, YOU this or that" speech all over it. Another couple of posts and we need to proceed by removing insulting language, issuing IFM's and warning people - possibly ban otherwise nice members who get pushed over the edge in matters of politics. We've seen it all before, a long - long time ago on a previous forum.
The adult argument doesn't convince me, not after all the mess we're still cleaning up after the SF turmoil that some inflammable subjects couldn't resist but ignite over and over and over again. To back up my very point, just scroll back two or three posts and behold: adults can't even get over the corpse of Margaret Thatcher in - get this! - a thread one visits only to pay deference to a deceased icon or to respect someone dear who's passed away.
It . Doesn't . Work! It never works. Go and check out some of those digital newspaper websites where registered users can comment on news flashes. The place gets ruined over even the smallest disagreement, let alone when the big issues are held under the looking glass.
As for the Bond politics thing, a thread like that involves speculation at best. One might discuss the political ideas of Fleming, for those at least can be somewhat verified, and from there on move to Bond's political mind. I don't know. It might work, though my heart burns with fear.
It would've been daft at the end of the day , I'm here like the majority because I love bond and there is a brilliant community here no matter what kind of drivel is posted at times.
I'm defiant JFT96
But thanks for having me
For those who don't know he was the scientist who developed the so-called "test-tube baby". He was not only an amazing scientist but also by all accounts an extraordinary human being and an inspiration to those who, like me, work in this area.
I understand you may not like this discussion continuing and yes some of the comments on here have been a bit OTT but I do take offence if you are tarnishing me with the same brush @DarthDimi.
I though I was being very reserved and respectful in my comments, believe me I could say a lot more.
I have only been replying to comments made to me, I was even called a Yank for goodness sake :))
I have absolutely no problem with this, @baronsamedi76, that is until the next effort by troublemakers shifts this thread once more into active fighting. You may play things cool, several others don't. I don't mind the heart that burns, I do mind the inflammable elements and what happens when they come too close.
You want to discuss politics with each other, do it via MSN or such like.
Sad news, RIP.
R.I.P.
It is said he died at home following an extended illness. I suppose it didn't help France suffered from diabetes that impaired his left arm and right leg.
That's my age too, RIP to Mr. France, he wrote a great Dalton, er, Brosnan script and I appreciate him for that. Same for Jonathan Winters, one of the best comedians of all time :(
http://www.tampabay.com/news/obituaries/michael-france-screenwriter-and-beach-theatre-owner-dies/2115065
He leaves behind his son, 15, and twin daughters, 10 along with his wife.
I am also sorry to hear about Jonathan Winters - a really original, funny, and influential comedian who was part of my childhood.
And R.I.P Michael France. Your contribution to the Goldeneye script was among the best in the film, and your work will be rememebered!