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I can comment on what I like, thanks, as can you. I'm not spamming, I'm talking about Indiana Jones.
You can hardly accuse me of trying to be 'in control' when you're also trying to tell me "do not respond to my statements".
Ironically you have actually convinced me not to respond to this anymore, it's tiresome and I'm sure everyone else is as bored of reading it as I am.
Yeah that's certainly the way I prefer to take it: it's lucky that there aren't any dates mentioned (I think). The only slight issue is Indy's age in relation to hers (although I guess it turns out that Indy is a couple of years younger than Ford, so that's something), and how I think he was at college when it happened, but you're right that he says they haven't spoken in ten years so it does work. They obviously originally intended for it to be with Marion as a minor but the final film doesn't feature that, although the lines "I was child, it was wrong and you knew it", "Do you know what you did to me, to my life?" etc. do go a bit further to implying that it wasn't only figurative. There's also something a bit worrying about the way he phrases it "I did what I did". Exactly what did he do to her?
Even without that, it's maybe a bit weird that she was 18 or so and he was 27-ish, but I guess it's not the creepiest thing. Personally I just try to ignore it! :)
Well he confirmed (in the FBI scene) that he studied under Prof Ravenwood at Chicago, not that he was teaching at the time. Getting involved with your teacher's daughter isn't morally wrong in itself so it suggests that there was something else...
I'm sure you're probably right about the thing he 'did to her' being him breaking it off, but it is very unfortunately phrased. It's maybe the only bit of clumsy dialogue in the film if they didn't intend it to be read that way as reading between the lines creates some unfortunate results. But the rest of it is so deftly written that it seems hard to believe that this is the only scene where they messed up (especially as they'd had it written for ages: Selleck's audition has him playing this scene).
https://indianajones.fandom.com/wiki/Marion_Ravenwood
This is considered by LucasFilm all canon.
Funnily, the Young Indiana Jones was supposed to eventually introduce Abner and Marion in later episodes. Makes me wonder just how far Lucas would have gone with that story and how much of an outrage it would have stirred.
Let that be an end to that clickbait nonsense. Moving on...
But that's the thing, if in one hand you have a 60 year old franchise that was kept in the family, and they can go for course correction every time, with their accumulated experience and good sense, in the other hand you have a couple of franchises that keep changing hands one way or another. So, there's a big difference right there. The M:i films keep working because of the same factor, they have someone at the helm, and it's not the directors, it's the actor/producer.
The only thing that draws me in to this 5th entry is HF. But he is definitely not at the helm of this rather shaky boat. I guess we'll see. I'm always ready to be pleasantly surprised :)
The thought of James Mangold making it does enthuse me though- after something like Ford vs Ferrari (which actually has the aesthetic sensibilities of an Indy movie when you go back and look) I think he's got the chops to make this a really good film: possibly actually better than Spielberg at this point in his career. And they're actually going to different locations around the world (unlike last time), doing stunts... it feels like there's a bit more energy being put into it this time.
This is fun:
Yep she is all those but she’s ultimately the damsel in distress who gets rescued by Jones.And there’s nothing wrong with that because Indy is the main character of the film.
Do you accept that the thing you posted was a load of hogwash? Did you see the tweet where the director said to stop being so gullible and falling for clickbait?
26 & 16 is a little pushing it... but then like it was said in Bill & Ted- girls mature faster than guys! ;)
“ The ages of consent were raised across the U.S. during the late 19th century and the early 20th century. By 1920, 26 states had an age of consent at 16, 21 states had an age of consent at 18, and one state (Georgia) had an age of consent at 14”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States#History
One bit I like in RAIDERS is that when reuniting with Marion he’s trying to play it cool when she calls him out. But earlier in the movie when he’s asked about Abner he looks regretful when talking about it.