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These must have been the director's cuts! ;)
BTW, do we have any glimpse of Mad's character?
I find this sort of comment embarrassing. Han Solo was well handled. The only criteria for getting him back for Ford was probably if he was killed. Ford wanted him gone in 1980.
Seriously, if Marion ravenwood was introduced now word for word as in 1981 insecure fraternities on the internet would crying woke. She’s kicks his ass in the opening scenes
It's all art, art that you can love, hate or be indifferent to.
Yeah it’s really weird. Luckily it’s easily ignored, and it doesn’t really affect Indy as a character. If he were a real person it would be hard to look beyond, but he’s a fictional construct so it’s more easily forgiven as a misstep by the makers.
But i mean purely in terms of character - Marion is feisty, independent, tough, resourceful. Everything that some people seem to dislike in female characters today
You do know that KK wasn’t in charge of the studio for those right? Not that I’m agreeing with fear monger Over Indy 5, but some concerns aren’t misplaced given her agenda and track record of running things,
That’s not the same thing as a woke caricature that isn’t an actual character and/or undercuts or appropriates a male/story. I find both sides of this argument, at their ends, so exhausting and lame.
Luckily that doesn't exist in this film, so it's pointless to complain about it.
Can we start a 'woke' thread for these boring arguments to go into?
I’m glad you know what’s in this film, but how about you stop trying to control the thread and other people’s points.
I was being more than a bit tongue-in-cheek, admittedly. Although, the use of the word "agenda" there raised a curious eyebrow! What agenda does she have, other than to obviously make films?
You'll notice I don't know what's in this film, but neither do you, so complaining about 'woke caricatures' has no relevance to it. I'm merely suggesting that complaining about something that you have no evidence for even happening is a colossal waste of time.
Oh please don't, you know what the answer will be. Just leave these people (well, men) to it.
But I will say how it's funny how films that she was actually the producer on she supposedly had less power and influence over than the ones where she was studio head, despite that being a much more removed role from the direct production process. Just like how Barbara Broccoli has little influence over the Bond films: it's all about the 'agenda' that the current MGM boss wants, obviously.
Woowwwwww...is it "woke" to find sexual abuse of an underage person abhorrent ?
Can we start a 'woke' thread for these boring arguments to go into?
Eh? I don't think you're quite following.
Sounds wise! I guess that maybe comes slightly from him being a Bond alternative.
I'm sad we didn't see more of the playboy side of Indy they intended: I think I remember they originally wanted him to be three characters in one- the adventurer/the professor/the playboy. In the end we only saw playboy once, but I guess it was probably just too many angles to juggle.
Yeah that's a fair point. I like those flirty moments with Elsa especially because they're so well written.
I would say it's tricky to hear things you read, but anyway; I think it's a bit of a shame you can't accept certain views being challenged.
I’m not the one being unaccepting of “views being challenged.” I think you’re spamming the thread, you’re not in control, and shouldn’t manipulate other people’s words. You don’t need to comment on everyone’s comments, particularly if you disagree.
Say she's 28 in Raiders & it happened a decade ago. Then you're right!