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The films of Mr Jean-Claude Van Damme.

MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
edited September 2012 in General Movies & TV Posts: 14,003
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The synopsis (courtesy of IGN):

Here's a synopsis of the fourth official entry in the franchise (sixth, if you count the terrible Showtime TV movies), "Jean-Claude Van Damme, Scott Adkins, Andrei “The Pit Bull” Arlovski and Dolph Lundgren star in Universal Soldier: Day of Reckoning, which ups the ante in the Universal Soldier series, giving you more hard-hitting, bloody, no-holds-barred fighting action.

John (Adkins, The Expendables 2) wakes up from a coma to discover his wife and daughter were slaughtered in a brutal home invasion. Haunted by images of the attack, he vows to kill the man responsible, Luc Deveraux (Van Damme). While John tries to piece his reality back together, things get more complicated when he is pursued by a relentless UniSol (Arlovski). As John gets closer to Deveraux and the rouge army of genetically enhanced warriors led by back-from-the-dead leader Andrew Scott (Lundgren), John discovers more about himself and begins to call into question everything he believed to be true."



Sounds like it's going to be closer to UniSol:Regeneration with Van Damme taking a supporting role. But with Adkins in the lead, this may not be bad afterall.
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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Why can't this go here:
    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/998/coming-soon-to-cinemas-near-you-the-upcoming-films-thread-taken-2-teaser-coming-soon-/p1
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    lol! Didn't even realise that they had made a fourth one! X_X
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Why can't this go here:
    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/998/coming-soon-to-cinemas-near-you-the-upcoming-films-thread-taken-2-teaser-coming-soon-/p1

    With their awesomeness, Van Damme films deserve their own thread. Seagall on the other hand...

    Actually, I might make this a JCVD centric thread.
    RogueAgent wrote:
    lol! Didn't even realise that they had made a fourth one! X_X

    Including the two non-JCVD films (the unofficial ones), this is the 6th UniSol film:

    Universal Soldier (1992)
    Universal Soldier II: Brothers In Arms (1998)
    Universal Soldier III: Unfinished Business (1999)
    Universal Soldier: The Return (1999)
    Universal Soldier: Regeneration (2009)
    Universal Soldier: Day Of Reckoning (2012)

    I have not seen the unofficial ones, only the Van Damme films.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    What about Universal Soldier starring George Lazenby?

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0183948/
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    NicNac wrote:
    What about Universal Soldier starring George Lazenby?

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0183948/

    Sounds like a decent action film, but other than the title, it has no connection to the 1992 Universal Soldier or any of it's sequels.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    MajorDSmythe wrote:
    Universal Soldier (1992)
    Universal Soldier II: Brothers In Arms (1998)
    Universal Soldier III: Unfinished Business (1999)
    Universal Soldier: The Return (1999)
    Universal Soldier: Regeneration (2009)
    Universal Soldier: Day Of Reckoning (2012)

    I have not seen the unofficial ones, only the Van Damme films.

    I haven't seen anything other than the 1992 original and The Return, and probably won't see anything other than those two. I didn't care much for the premise of the third film, and the two unofficial ones I just never wanted to see.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited September 2012 Posts: 12,837
    I've seen all of them all, but I love the Van Damme ones the most. 2 and 3 were ok I suppose but they weren't great.

    Lundgren and JCVD are awesome so I'll definetly watch this. Scott Adkins is also cool, he's my choice for the next Bond and he's done good stuff with Van Damme before.
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Why can't this go here:
    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/998/coming-soon-to-cinemas-near-you-the-upcoming-films-thread-taken-2-teaser-coming-soon-/p1

    If Batman gets his own thread for his new film then JCVD deserves one too!!!
  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
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    Agent007391 wrote:
    MajorDSmythe wrote:
    Universal Soldier (1992)
    Universal Soldier II: Brothers In Arms (1998)
    Universal Soldier III: Unfinished Business (1999)
    Universal Soldier: The Return (1999)
    Universal Soldier: Regeneration (2009)
    Universal Soldier: Day Of Reckoning (2012)

    I have not seen the unofficial ones, only the Van Damme films.

    I haven't seen anything other than the 1992 original and The Return, and probably won't see anything other than those two. I didn't care much for the premise of the third film, and the two unofficial ones I just never wanted to see.

    I saw the unoficial ones when I was a kid and even then I thought they were bad. The first one is the best, The Return was okay but it had too many cheezy parts, Regeneration was okay and the last 20 minutes has good action, and Day of Reckoning looks decent.

  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
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    NicNac wrote:
    What about Universal Soldier starring George Lazenby?

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0183948/
    A few clips are on youtube- the picture and sound were so bad I could barely tell what they were saying, and it was a group of Aussies with long hair- I wasn't 100% sure which one was Lazenby at first! :)
    If only there was a nice blu ray out there- I'd love to see it
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    thelivingroyale wrote:
    I've seen all of them all, but I love the Van Damme ones the most. 2 and 3 were ok I suppose but they weren't great.

    Lundgren and JCVD are awesome so I'll definetly watch this. Scott Adkins is also cool, he's my choice for the next Bond and he's done good stuff with Van Damme before.
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Why can't this go here:
    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/998/coming-soon-to-cinemas-near-you-the-upcoming-films-thread-taken-2-teaser-coming-soon-/p1

    If Batman gets his own thread for his new film then JCVD deserves one too!!!

    The Nolan Batman films are deeply moving and intelligent films, not pointless shoot-'em-ups.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited September 2012 Posts: 12,837
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    The Nolan Batman films are deeply moving and intelligent films, not pointless shoot-'em-ups.

    They're good films, I love them, but all the TDKR stuff could have easily gone into the film thread but didn't, so why can't this have it's own thread?

    Universal Soldier is a shoot em up, sure, but it's only as pointless as any other film.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    thelivingroyale wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    The Nolan Batman films are deeply moving and intelligent films, not pointless shoot-'em-ups.

    They're good films, I love them, but all the TDKR stuff could have easily gone into the film thread but didn't, so why can't this have it's own thread?

    Universal Soldier is a shoot em up, sure, but it's only as pointless as any other film.
    That's not a well thought out statement. I am positive this film won't bring a new significance and innovation to filmmaking like Nolan's Batman films have done for revolutionizing comic books films and the use of IMAX. I am doubly positive this film couldn't make 1+ billion dollars. And I am tres-positive that this film has no other purpose than to be an escapist forgettable actioneer, and not an involving genre defining picture.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited September 2012 Posts: 14,003
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    That's not a well thought out statement. I am positive this film won't bring a new significance and innovation to filmmaking like Nolan's Batman films have done for revolutionizing comic books films and the use of IMAX. I am doubly positive this film couldn't make 1+ billion dollars. And I am tres-positive that this film has no other purpose than to be an escapist forgettable actioneer, and not an involving genre defining picture.

    Since when has that been a bad thing? Apologies if i'm wrong, but that comment sounds like it's from someone whom looks down on action films, or any film that doesn't require to viewer to think. I'm all for films that make you think and feel, but i'm also what you can call an action junkie, and am looking forward to seeing UniSol: Day Of Reckoning. Hell yeah, bring it on.

    I watched the first two Nolan Batman films, and they just didn't grab me. TDK inparticular felt as if it went out of it's way to be overlong. It goes witout saying that I am not loosing sleep by having not seen TDKR.


    Actually, i'm going to change this thread to cover all JCVD films.

    And here's the R2 DVD cover for 6 Bullets:
    http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91mvrSeGhzL._AA1500_.jpg

    To be released October 1st.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited September 2012 Posts: 12,837
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    The Nolan Batman films are deeply moving and intelligent films, not pointless shoot-'em-ups.

    They're good films, I love them, but all the TDKR stuff could have easily gone into the film thread but didn't, so why can't this have it's own thread?

    Universal Soldier is a shoot em up, sure, but it's only as pointless as any other film.
    That's not a well thought out statement. I am positive this film won't bring a new significance and innovation to filmmaking like Nolan's Batman films have done for revolutionizing comic books films and the use of IMAX. I am doubly positive this film couldn't make 1+ billion dollars. And I am tres-positive that this film has no other purpose than to be an escapist forgettable actioneer, and not an involving genre defining picture.

    Making a billion dollars means nothing. Avengers was an escapist actioner and that's one of the most successful films ever, it made more than TDKR actually, but I don't think it's a better film and I'm sure you don't either.

    Anyway, yes TDKR is a great film that will probably be better than Universal Soldier, but it's still just a film. And if that gets it's own thread, so can any other film. Besides, Taken 2 is just an actioner and that got it's own thread. Still, doesn't really matter now.

    On topic, Bloodsport is my favourite JCVD film.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    MajorDSmythe wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    That's not a well thought out statement. I am positive this film won't bring a new significance and innovation to filmmaking like Nolan's Batman films have done for revolutionizing comic books films and the use of IMAX. I am doubly positive this film couldn't make 1+ billion dollars. And I am tres-positive that this film has no other purpose than to be an escapist forgettable actioneer, and not an involving genre defining picture.

    Since when has that been a bad thing? Apologies if i'm wrong, but that comment sounds like it's from someone whom looks down on action films, or any film that doesn't require to viewer to think. I'm all for films that make you think and feel, but i'm also what you can call an action junkie, and am looking forward to seeing UniSol: Day Of Reckoning. Hell yeah, bring it on.

    I watched the first two Nolan Batman films, and they just didn't grab me. TDK inparticular felt as if it went out of it's way to be overlong. It goes witout saying that I am not loosing sleep by having not seen TDKR.


    Actually, i'm going to change this thread to cover all JCVD films.

    And here's the R2 DVD cover for 6 Bullets:
    http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91mvrSeGhzL._AA1500_.jpg

    To be released October 1st.
    The whole point of filmmaking is to improve upon current standards and create innovation to continue on in the medium. I am a thinking film watcher. I won't be challenged or moved by a film that spends its run time just showing me guns firing and punches being thrown with little to no plot or interesting narrative to hold it together.
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    The Nolan Batman films are deeply moving and intelligent films, not pointless shoot-'em-ups.

    They're good films, I love them, but all the TDKR stuff could have easily gone into the film thread but didn't, so why can't this have it's own thread?

    Universal Soldier is a shoot em up, sure, but it's only as pointless as any other film.
    That's not a well thought out statement. I am positive this film won't bring a new significance and innovation to filmmaking like Nolan's Batman films have done for revolutionizing comic books films and the use of IMAX. I am doubly positive this film couldn't make 1+ billion dollars. And I am tres-positive that this film has no other purpose than to be an escapist forgettable actioneer, and not an involving genre defining picture.

    Making a billion dollars means nothing. Avengers was an escapist actioner and that's one of the most successful films ever, it made more than TDKR actually, but I don't think it's a better film and I'm sure you don't either.

    Anyway, yes TDKR is a great film that will probably be better than Universal Soldier, but it's still just a film. And if that gets it's own thread, so can any other film. Besides, Taken 2 is just an actioner and that got it's own thread. Still, doesn't really matter now.

    On topic, Bloodsport is my favourite JCVD film.

    I wasn't making the point that TDKR is better for making a billion dollars, I was saying that as a reason for it to have its own thread. You have to respect a film that rakes in that amount of record breaking cash, and beats it already stupendous predecessor. By the logic you thought I was employing, Avatar would be considered the greatest film off all time. Yuck, I think I just puked a little... :-&
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited September 2012 Posts: 12,837
    I agree on Avatar. Crap film. Cameron hasn't made a good film since True Lies.

    Well I guess we'll just have to disagree here. I don't need to be challenged or moved by every film I see. Apart from a few exceptions, none of the Bond films are really challenging or moving are they?

    But Taken 2 has it's own thread and that won't make a billion dollars or change the face of film making forever.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    thelivingroyale wrote:
    I agree on Avatar. Crap film. Cameron hasn't made a good film since True Lies.

    Well I guess we'll just have to disagree here. I don't need to be challenged or moved by every film I see. Apart from a few exceptions, none of the Bond films are really challenging or moving are they?

    But Taken 2 has it's own thread and that won't make a billion dollars or change the face of film making forever.

    I find CR and QoS VERY moving, as well as LTK, where you see Bond very let down with Felix's traumatic near death swim with the sharks and his look when Della throws him flowers kills me every time. Skyfall with be very powerful too, I am sure. And you are right about Taken 2, likely, but I didn't make the thread.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited September 2012 Posts: 14,003
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    The whole point of filmmaking is to improve upon current standards and create innovation to continue on in the medium. I am a thinking film watcher. I won't be challenged or moved by a film that spends its run time just showing me guns firing and punches being thrown with little to no plot or interesting narrative to hold it together.

    I uderstand what your saying, but I think it would be a pretty dull world without escapist action films to whisk us away. And JCVD is responsible for some of my favourite action films.

    Hard Target is my favourite Van Damme film. There's Van Damme rocking a cool mullet (business at the front, kick ass at the back), 90's <a href="http://www.celebs101.com/gallery/Yancy_Butler/101533/yancy_butler_photo_2.jpg">Yancy Butler</a> and Lance Henriksen & Arnold Vosloo as the Villain & Henchman.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    MajorDSmythe wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    The whole point of filmmaking is to improve upon current standards and create innovation to continue on in the medium. I am a thinking film watcher. I won't be challenged or moved by a film that spends its run time just showing me guns firing and punches being thrown with little to no plot or interesting narrative to hold it together.

    I uderstand what your saying, but I think it would be a pretty world without escapist action films to whisk us away. And JCVD is responsible for some of my favourite action films.

    Hard Target is my favourite Van Damme film. There's Van Damme rocking a cool mullet (business at the front, kick ass at the back), 90's <a href="http://www.celebs101.com/gallery/Yancy_Butler/101533/yancy_butler_photo_2.jpg">Yancy Butler</a> and Lance Henriksen & Arnold Vosloo as the Villain & Henchman.
    You mean it wouldn't be a pretty world without them, yes??

    Anyway, I mean no disrespect to parade in and come off as implying anyone who likes shoot 'em ups are not in good taste with the films they like. I like what I like, you like what you like. As much as I would take a thinking film over action films any day of the week, they are good because after a while one needs a break from the brain busting and just wants to lay back and watch things explode. Cheers to you, gents. I'll leave you to your discussion.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited September 2012 Posts: 12,837
    @Brady Like I said, there are a few exceptions. There's CR, OHMSS, LTK, QOS, but none of the others really try to move you.

    @MajorDSmythe God Butler looks hot in that picture. Anyway, I love Hard Target but Bloodsport just tops it for me. It has a great story, Van Damme at his martial arts peak and some of the greatest fight scenes in film history.

    I found out something about JCVD not long ago, he was almost Predator. At first I thought he would make the film even better, but then I saw a pic of him on the films set and the costume they designed for him looks stupid. So in the end I'm glad he wasn't in that film.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited September 2012 Posts: 14,003
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    You mean it wouldn't be a pretty world without them, yes??

    Anyway, I mean no disrespect to parade in and come off as implying anyone who likes shoot 'em ups are not in good taste with the films they like. I like what I like, you like what you like. As much as I would take a thinking film over action films any day of the week, they are good because after a while one needs a break from the brain busting and just wants to lay back and watch things explode. Cheers to you, gents. I'll leave you to your discussion.


    I meant to say that it would be dull without escapist action films.

    @thelivingroyale I had heard that before. According to the IMDB, JCVD is 5' 9". So he would have been a shorter though more agile Predator.

    redsuit-3.jpg

    It looks more lizzard-eque to me. I can't say that I would have been against the idea of JCVD as the Predator.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
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    Yeah I heard Predator would be more ninja like. I think Van Damme could've pulled it off, but I really don't like that suit. Apparently it was tricky to move in too. You can see it in action here.

    http://www.cracked.com/article_19697_6-ridiculous-first-drafts-famous-movie-monsters.html

    Van Damme could've been great, but I'm happy with Kevin Peter Hall as Predator, I'm not sure anybody else would've done better.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    Van Damme would of been wasted in Predator, and I know he was involved for a time or considered, but Kevin Peter Hall got the job, (we see him, at the end as the chopper pilot), but whoever it was, we don't see the actor themselves, or as another character even, except that they are the Predator, if that makes sense. Hall did a fine job, and being around seven feet tall, was far more suitable for the creation

    I prefer Seagal over Van Damme, I think Steve could of whipped some ass between these two if we go back far enough, but the latter did do some fine movies. My favorites would include Sudden Death, Hard Target, Maximum Risk and even Timecop. I like the way in some films he doesn't try to hide his actual nationality, by way of a number of characters actually being from Belgium, saves an argument on the strength of the accent. Not the greatest martial artist ever seen on screen or in theaters, but for a time in the late 1980s and early to mid 1990s was a tough act to follow
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    I don't think I've seen many of his films. I did however, watch Bloodsport and Double Impact a fair bit back in the day. I thought Replicant was pretty good. From what I've seen, one of my favourites is Timecop. I wouldn't mind seeing a remake of this or another sequel, if done right.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    Ron Silver was excellent in TimeCop, real screen presence, his Senator Aaron McComb character I think it was, radiated menace, would of been a great Bond villain maybe, and it has Mia Sara too, still as pretty as she was in Ferris Buellers Day Off. It's an outstanding watch and was Van Damme's biggest attraction at the box office in terms of profit. I don't think a remake is necessary, it's such a great standalone release, but you damn well it can only be a matter of time before someone tries their hand at it

    Hasn't nobody mentioned Kickboxer? It's a silly as hell watch, almost like a sort of Karate Kid for grown ups, but still has some decent action bits and pieces
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    I loved Street Fighter. I am not ashamed to say it.
  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
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    As dopey as that movie was, ol' Jean Claude did have some pretty cool lines.

    'I'm alright-- just half dead.'
    'And Bison....?'
    'All dead.'

    and my favorite:
    'You have made me a happy man!'
    'Next I'll make you a dead one!'


  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
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    More of a Lee/Seagal fan personally, but I love Bloodsport especially uncut.

    "Very good. But, brick not hit back"- Bolo Yeung
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited September 2012 Posts: 11,189
    Master_Dahark wrote:
    As dopey as that movie was, ol' Jean Claude did have some pretty cool lines.

    'I'm alright-- just half dead.'
    'And Bison....?'
    'All dead.'

    and my favorite:
    'You have made me a happy man!'
    'Next I'll make you a dead one!'


    Ah not Street Fighter ~X(

    The ending where VD is being electricuted by Bison reminds me of DAD.
  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
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    QBranch wrote:
    From what I've seen, one of my favourites is Timecop. I wouldn't mind seeing a remake of this or another sequel, if done right.

    I enjoy Timecop as well. They did make a sequel or two without JCVD, they starred Jason Scott Lee. I never saw them because they didn't look very good. I believe in the second movie he went back in time and tried to kill Hitler. 8-|
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