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I think a more likely scenario is that there is someone high up in the dodgy Russian government (Guy Hainesovitch?) who is well in with Quantum and is watching Yusefs back so the FSB don't touch him.
Still makes absolutely no sense for M to go there though.
But that's the whole point, isn't it? Here's the one man that Bond had more reason to kill than any other and yet he controlled himself. The incredible restraint that he showed is a testament to how he matured and put duty first. Suppressing his ego and own desires means that he completed his journey to be a professional agent as opposed to a "blunt instrument".
Of course, there's also another point to consider. Yusef asked him to "make it quick". By not giving Yusef what he wanted (a quick death) he has control and power over him. Now, instead of the quick death that ends everything immediately Yusef can look forward to a lifetime of prison beatings, shower rape, and "enhanced interrogation techniques". And we don't know that Bond *didn't* rough him up - we only know that he didn't kill him.
You're point is well made and I agree. We can only hope that Yusef got a good pasting by other MI6 agents or in the slammer!
Is what going to be continued? This thread? Sure. My storyline? If somebody wants me to. The article's story line? Never.
I'm currently planning another writing project for this site.. so I doubt I'll get back to this.
Certainly an impressive first post LordYam nonetheless. I await further bons mots such as this with baited breath.
I did enjoy the Water Plot, though. It’s just a reflection of the grittier take on Bond we are enjoying since the re-boot. The issue of ownership and control of water supplies in the Third World is exactly the sort of thing that the real world versions of Dominic Greene and Mr. White are currently working on, well out of the public eye. I thought that this plot, and the very concept of Quantum, were the most notable things about QoS, and would love to see these sorts of ideas examined more thoroughly in future films. The more I think about it, though, the more I doubt that Eon actually has the stomach to further detail the boogeyman they’ve created here…
AND contrary to the beyond salvagable Grand Canyon like Plotholes in SF or DAD (Funny that these, when you think about it, are the ONLY two examples of this kind of failure in the whole Bond Series ,which really means something in a Franchise that has given us the likes of YOLT, DAF and MR.) its faults could be very easily corrected by some minor changes.
I still like to claim, that all that is needed are 3 Lines added, 3 changed and 2 minutes extra filmed (plus one Cut altogether ) to make QoS a real gem (something that can't be said of many Bond Flics)!
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I agree. Yusef should have figured in the story more but the actually final scene of QOS with Bond confronting him was very good and perfectly satisfactory.
QOS actually does a lot of things right: It's essentially the story of a quiet repressed man who is trying to find answers about the death of the woman he loved and seek revenge for her. Bond never explicitly talks about getting revenge for her as he keeps all of his feelings bottled up. Camille is a mirror of Bond as she represents someone consumed by her need for revenge; when Bond looks to follow on her path he realises how hollow a pursuit vengeance is. So when finally having caught up with Yusef, Bond dosen't kill him, instead he hands him over to mi6, therefore gaining closure for the whole Vesper affair.
In terms of this story and this aspect of Bond's character development, QOS is very much a success. However, the execution suffered slightly because the script was lacking in areas. The biggest issues being that the action sequences didn't contribute towards the story or help develop the characters. What were the point of the boat chase or the plane dogfight? If I was to go fix QOS that's where I would start.
The boat-chase should have been used to further develop the relationship between Bond and Camille. Bond saves Camille because he thinks shes in danger but later he hands her over and chases after Greene. Why go after her in the first place? I'd keep the chase scene as it is as it shows the pair working together but after the scene i would have Bond interrogate Camille and find out more information on Greene and Quantum. It would also be the first time that Bond would have spoken to a woman since the death of Vesper and I think that would have added something new to the dynamic. I think Camille should then escape and Bond should decide instead to follow Greene as he dosen't think she's important hence taking us to the Bregenz.
The dogfight can stay but it needs to be made more clear that it was Greene who ordered it, to me it just seems strange that some poor little Mexican man makes a phonecall and some hightech fighter-jets come and attack Bond.
Aside from that I would ramp up the revenge angle more and show Bond to be more of an angry isolated man. Furthermore, I would give Mathis more to do, as he is essentially Bond's conscience - almost an older version of Bond.
And there you have it, just fixed QOS. I reckon I could make those changed with one afternoon before the writer's strike. EON call me.
I once heard the rumor that Mathis was supposed to tell essentially Flemings original QoS Shortstory during the Airplane Lounge Scene while Bond was brooding over his Martinis. I always thought this was a splendid idea, but obviously Mr Forster didn't share my opinion. This would have gone a Long Way to make the Film more emotional attaching, the lack of which was one of its biggest faults along with the epileptical editing.
That was a brilliant idea, If well executed it would have been a great, key moment of QOS. I wonder if it was possible though, with the writer's strike.
And I wonder why people think Bond should have gone after Yusuf. He was very small on the food chain, a mere male honey trap, nothing more than a gigolo turned spy and an instrument of Quantum. Bond trying to find the ruling heads of the organisation was the right decision.
Even remake it with a new cast, new song and a new director. At least.
Oh God! I hate it when I encounter fans who think they can re-write a movie . . . especially one that doesn't really need to be rewritten. OoS's real problem is that the pacing in the movie's first half was too short.
If you think you're that good of a screenwriter, go to Hollywood or London and get a job.
Or you can just not read this thread and leave your non-constructive criticism at the door. It's called 'fun' and you shouldn't need a dictionary to define it. Please leave this thread, we don't want you.
And my application to Hollywood is pending, I hope they call soon.
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