Could Pierce Brosnan feasibly come back to do a Bond after Craig leaves?

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    Samuel001 wrote:
    Some of the things Pierce said though were out of line. He overstepped the mark many times.

    As for him coming back, of course not.

    Are you talking about sidling up to Quentin Tarantino and then getting shot down by eon? That can not have endeared him to Babs and Mickey.

  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Well, that too but his rant and dissing of EON didn't help him one bit either.
  • I don't blame Brosnan. If you were him wouldn't you have slagged of EON? I think he's being really forgiving about it, doing that documentary this year, etc.

    If I were him I'd probably have said worse and I would've told them to stuff their 50th celebrations.
    actonsteve wrote:
    Are you talking about sidling up to Quentin Tarantino

    When did that happen? Tarantino said he would've cast Brosnan if he'd done CR, but I never heard anything about him "sidling up to Tarantino"

  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    I don't blame Brosnan. If you were him wouldn't you have slagged of EON? I think he's being really forgiving about it, doing that documentary this year, etc.

    He may have wanted to but shouldn't have. The fact he was still trying to do a fifth film in October 2005 meant all his chances had gone due to what he said in the heat of the moment.

    He did at the time, say he had no regrets, as that would be foolish. It doesn't surprise me he's taking part in the documentary. Time has healed him, somewhat.
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    actonsteve wrote:
    Are you talking about sidling up to Quentin Tarantino

    When did that happen? Tarantino said he would've cast Brosnan if he'd done CR, but I never heard anything about him "sidling up to Tarantino"

    QT contacted him about about doing CR. Pierce took the idea to Babs and Mickey who weren't interested.

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    Brosnan is defo too old for Bond now but I'd like to see him in another action/spy film
    I could see Tim Dalton doing another Bond film though even though he's older than Brosser so I've just contradicted myself!
  • DRESSED_TO_KILLDRESSED_TO_KILL Suspended
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    In my opinion. It is way too late for Brosnan to come back as 007, but he would make a great villain, I would love to see Craig go against Brosnan, would be great
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    Bring back Dalts!
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Yeah I feel really sorry for multi millionaire Pierce Brosnan it must be such a bind having all that money and the career opportunities the series afforded him.

    It will never surprise me how much Brosnan fan boys will go on about what a raw deal he got I'd say Dalton got far more of bad time of it and look how civil he acts, please all this feeling sorry for Pierce is making me want to throw up!
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Shardlake wrote:
    Yeah I feel really sorry for multi millionaire Pierce Brosnan it must be such a bind having all that money and the career opportunities the series afforded him.

    It will never surprise me how much Brosnan fan boys will go on about what a raw deal he got I'd say Dalton got far more of bad time of it and look how civil he acts, please all this feeling sorry for Pierce is making me want to throw up!

    Dalton didn't get his arse shoved out without warning. He made his own decision to leave, so why should he be sore? And Pierce has definitely had some good opportunities after Bond, but I wouldn't call them the greatest when looking at where the role got Sean. But they are two different people. Both feel that EON side swept them, but as you can see from their actions, only one man is being mature about this and the other a sniveling little baby. I'll give you a hint. HE'S THE ONLY ONE MISSING FROM THIS DOCUMENTARY. So, saw what you wish about our defense of Pierce, but he has had a real reason to be angry at EON and is instead forgetting the past and agreed to take part in the celebrations.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Shardlake wrote:
    Yeah I feel really sorry for multi millionaire Pierce Brosnan it must be such a bind having all that money and the career opportunities the series afforded him.

    It will never surprise me how much Brosnan fan boys will go on about what a raw deal he got I'd say Dalton got far more of bad time of it and look how civil he acts, please all this feeling sorry for Pierce is making me want to throw up!

    Dalton didn't get his arse shoved out without warning. He made his own decision to leave, so why should he be sore? And Pierce has definitely had some good opportunities after Bond, but I wouldn't call them the greatest when looking at where the role got Sean. But they are two different people. Both feel that EON side swept them, but as you can see from their actions, only one man is being mature about this and the other a sniveling little baby. I'll give you a hint. HE'S THE ONLY ONE MISSING FROM THIS DOCUMENTARY. So, saw what you wish about our defense of Pierce, but he has had a real reason to be angry at EON and is instead forgetting the past and agreed to take part in the celebrations.

    If it hadn't been for Bond he'd most likely be following the same career trajectory of Vinnie Jones or Michael Madsen, he might have got a bit of short shrift but forgive if I think all this bleating about his misfortune a little hollow.

    Dalton did leave of his own accord but I think the way he was seen as a poor replacement till Lord Pierce was ready to take on the role is somewhat worse, he took on the role after the general public were getting ready for Remington Steele becoming Bond. Dalton might have respect amongst the fan base and be seen by many to be the real true Fleming Bond of the series but the mass public see him as the boring miserable one as they wanted Roger Moore 2 in the role, Dalton might not have got the raw deal with EON but the general public never gave him a chance.
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    Shardlake wrote:
    Shardlake wrote:
    Yeah I feel really sorry for multi millionaire Pierce Brosnan it must be such a bind having all that money and the career opportunities the series afforded him.

    It will never surprise me how much Brosnan fan boys will go on about what a raw deal he got I'd say Dalton got far more of bad time of it and look how civil he acts, please all this feeling sorry for Pierce is making me want to throw up!

    Dalton didn't get his arse shoved out without warning. He made his own decision to leave, so why should he be sore? And Pierce has definitely had some good opportunities after Bond, but I wouldn't call them the greatest when looking at where the role got Sean. But they are two different people. Both feel that EON side swept them, but as you can see from their actions, only one man is being mature about this and the other a sniveling little baby. I'll give you a hint. HE'S THE ONLY ONE MISSING FROM THIS DOCUMENTARY. So, saw what you wish about our defense of Pierce, but he has had a real reason to be angry at EON and is instead forgetting the past and agreed to take part in the celebrations.

    If it hadn't been for Bond he'd most likely be following the same career trajectory of Vinnie Jones or Michael Madsen, he might have got a bit of short shrift but forgive if I think all this bleating about his misfortune a little hollow.

    Dalton did leave of his own accord but I think the way he was seen as a poor replacement till Lord Pierce was ready to take on the role is somewhat worse, he took on the role after the general public were getting ready for Remington Steele becoming Bond. Dalton might have respect amongst the fan base and be seen by many to be the real true Fleming Bond of the series but the mass public see him as the boring miserable one as they wanted Roger Moore 2 in the role, Dalton might not have got the raw deal with EON but the general public never gave him a chance.

    In a way the public never got the chance to get used to him. TLD was well received but LTK was a bit of a divisive entry. Then there was a six year wait with Tim the nearly man hanging around in the wings. had he made another more conventional entry I think he'd be seen differently. It took Lord Rog three movies to really hit his stride.
  • edited October 2012 Posts: 12,837
    Shardlake wrote:
    Yeah I feel really sorry for multi millionaire Pierce Brosnan it must be such a bind having all that money and the career opportunities the series afforded him.

    It will never surprise me how much Brosnan fan boys will go on about what a raw deal he got I'd say Dalton got far more of bad time of it and look how civil he acts, please all this feeling sorry for Pierce is making me want to throw up!

    This is coming from somebody who prefers Dalton to Brosnan:

    Dalton deserved a third film, but at the end of the day, he left on his own. Yeah he deserved a more films and it was sad that all the legal stuff stopped that happening but he did leave on his own, even if he had a good reason (waiting almost 6 years and nothing happening). Nowadays he isn't that popular with the public, but really that's got nothing to do with EON or Brosnan.

    Brosnan though, he got fired. Somebody on here compared it to the FA sacking the manager when it was their own fault and I think that's a good comparison. EON f*cked up with DAD, it made money and got some good reviews but most people knew they'd gone too far with all the sci fi stuff. And Brosnan was sort of a scapegoat, they fired him and started again.

    Not only that though, he thought he was doing a 5th one. It came out of nowhere, it'd be like turning up to work and finding out you'd lost your job.

    So I do feel sorry for him yeah. And I think he had every right to bash EON, I'd have probably done the same, and I think he's being really generous doing this documentary for them.
  • edited October 2012 Posts: 11,425
    They hit a wall with DUD and it is amazing that Purvis and Wade didn't get any of the blame. But the fact is Pierce was not only rubbish in the film, he also looked like he'd had one too many of those delicious North Korean pork pies while being 'tortured' in jail.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    The lead actor in a series such as this will usually take the most hits. That's just how it goes.
  • Getafix wrote:
    They hit a wall with DUD and it is amazing that Purvis and Wade didn't get any of the blame. But the fact is Pierce was not only rubbish in the film, he also looked like he'd had one too many of those delicious North Korean pork pies while being 'tortured' in jail.

    I liked Pierce Brosnan, but that made me laugh out loud as I pictured Madonna's theme playing over Bond sat in a dank cell picking pork pies off a buffet table.

    In answer to the original question; no, of course not. Too old now, and the series has moved on.

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    Who ate all the pies?

    Or pasties, perhaps...
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Getafix wrote:
    They hit a wall with DUD and it is amazing that Purvis and Wade didn't get any of the blame. But the fact is Pierce was not only rubbish in the film, he also looked like he'd had one too many of those delicious North Korean pork pies while being 'tortured' in jail.

    Agreed, when a Bond doesn't care about his appearance and is quite happy to look out of shape like the bored unfit looking Connery in YOLT it's definitely time to move on.

    If Brosnan returning would be something akin to Connery coming back looking nothing like the Bond in the first 4 films in DAF, then I'm glad we were spared such a sight but yes in an alternative reality if CR had bombed I've no doubt this would have likely been attempted by EON once again due to public demand.

  • Posts: 11,425
    Shardlake wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    They hit a wall with DUD and it is amazing that Purvis and Wade didn't get any of the blame. But the fact is Pierce was not only rubbish in the film, he also looked like he'd had one too many of those delicious North Korean pork pies while being 'tortured' in jail.

    Agreed, when a Bond doesn't care about his appearance and is quite happy to look out of shape like the bored unfit looking Connery in YOLT it's definitely time to move on.

    If Brosnan returning would be something akin to Connery coming back looking nothing like the Bond in the first 4 films in DAF, then I'm glad we were spared such a sight but yes in an alternative reality if CR had bombed I've no doubt this would have likely been attempted by EON once again due to public demand.

    Quite possibly true. And thanks to the fact that DC is a serious actor who actually knew what he wanted to do with the role we got a decent movie. And the prospect of Zombie Brozza back from the dead was " skewered". Thank God.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Getafix wrote:
    Shardlake wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    They hit a wall with DUD and it is amazing that Purvis and Wade didn't get any of the blame. But the fact is Pierce was not only rubbish in the film, he also looked like he'd had one too many of those delicious North Korean pork pies while being 'tortured' in jail.

    Agreed, when a Bond doesn't care about his appearance and is quite happy to look out of shape like the bored unfit looking Connery in YOLT it's definitely time to move on.

    If Brosnan returning would be something akin to Connery coming back looking nothing like the Bond in the first 4 films in DAF, then I'm glad we were spared such a sight but yes in an alternative reality if CR had bombed I've no doubt this would have likely been attempted by EON once again due to public demand.

    Quite possibly true. And thanks to the fact that DC is a serious actor who actually knew what he wanted to do with the role we got a decent movie. And the prospect of Zombie Brozza back from the dead was " skewered". Thank God.

    Couldn't of put it better myself!
  • edited October 2012 Posts: 1,492
    Shardlake wrote:
    [fter the general public were getting ready for Remington Steele becoming Bond.

    The American public? He wasn't a name in the UK. RS was barely noticed, It was on on BBC2 after Newsnight. He only became noticed when he was mentioned in the same btreathe as James Bond and getting movie roles.I think RS passed most people by in the uk.
  • Getafix wrote:
    Who ate all the pies?

    Or pasties, perhaps...

    Really? I thought the North Koreans ate and enjoyed grass and dirt. Their government told them during the last famine that it was perfectly OK to do so. Amazing how brainwashed they are over there. The truly smart ones have made their escape or died trying.

    Past that, yes, it appears the scorpion lady raided the Moon pantry quite a few times on Pierce's behalf. He must have given her a "through evaluation" :))
  • actonsteve wrote:
    Shardlake wrote:
    [fter the general public were getting ready for Remington Steele becoming Bond.

    The American public? He wasn't a name in the UK. RS was barely noticed, It was on on BBC2 after Newsnight. He only became noticed when he was mentioned in the same btreathe as James Bond and getting movie roles.I think RS passed most people by in the uk.

    That does seem true. I love his Bond but I'd never heard of Brosnan until I found out he'd be replacing Dalton in the new film.
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    actonsteve wrote:
    Shardlake wrote:
    [fter the general public were getting ready for Remington Steele becoming Bond.

    The American public? He wasn't a name in the UK. RS was barely noticed, It was on on BBC2 after Newsnight. He only became noticed when he was mentioned in the same btreathe as James Bond and getting movie roles.I think RS passed most people by in the uk.

    Exactly. I'd never heard of him before he popped up in Mrs Doubtfire. He was practically unknown in the UK.
  • edited October 2012 Posts: 3,494
    Pierce was definitely a much bigger commodity in the U.S, seems we here were a lot more familiar with him. My Dad liked RS a lot, I'd seen the show myself, I'll be covering a lot of that this weekend when the originals start to appraise the Dalton era. Other than his similar efforts to Connery in trying to get the Irish film industry moving along, it does seem he's concentrated his efforts on Hollywood rather than GB. Which is where you want to be as an actor trying to make serious money and get serious recognition. I know he truly loved Bond and was thrilled to play him, but I'm thinking he saw it more as a plum role than a serious labo(u)r of love.
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    Pierce was definitely a much bigger commodity in the U.S, seems we here were a lot more familiar with him. My Dad liked RS a lot, I'd seen the show myself, I'll be covering a lot of that this weekend when the originals start to appraise the Dalton era. Other than his similar efforts to Connery in trying to get the Irish film industry moving along, it does seem he's concentrated his efforts on Hollywood rather than GB. Which is where you want to be as an actor trying to make serious money and get serious recognition. I know he truly loved Bond and was thrilled to play him, but I'm thinking he saw it more as a plum role than a serious labo(u)r of love.

    i don't hold anything against him. the scripts were awful and i am not sure any one could have saved those four films from being utterly dire. in that sense he was the right man at the right time.
  • I don't think Connery looked massively unfit in You Only Live Twice - I'd say he looked more unfit in Diamonds are Forever. Brosnan did lapse in fitness in Die Another Day - but he's still a jobbing actor - I'm sure given the right director, the right pay, and a very good personal trainer he'd get in shape - and he is a stylish guy and an attractive guy (so I've see women say lol) for his age.

    But all this is irrelevant really - when posting the thread-starter to this I dumbly didn't take into account the fact Brosnan will be probably in his late 60s come 2017 when a new Bond would take over - and even that's assuming Craig wouldn't be coaxed back to do a third Bond film!
    There are too many stipulations in the way of the speculative possibility of Brosnan playing Bond again - he could play Bond now as an older 60 yr old Bond, but he'd have to get into shape, then he could only star in a 'rogue' Bond film - something which we've ruled out in this thread already. So it's pretty much a no no to Brosnan as Bond again.

    But - in an ideal world;
    + Lazenby would have starred in 3 Bonds in the same vein as OHMSS and he'd have got along with his colleagues and the director et al
    + Dalton would have got one more Bond film filling the gap between Licence to Kill and GoldenEye.
    + and Brosnan would have had better writers to clear up the mess of bad writing in the sequels to GoldenEye - Die Another Day shouldn't have even happened!!! - it's only saving grace being Halle Berry lol It's actually a shame the MGM enforced gap took place in Craig's era as Bond rather than Brosnans - Brosnan could have been forced to stop doing Bond films after The World is not Enough and then had a last instalment a few more years later as a more gritty, well-written Bond.

    but - hindsight is 20/20.
  • edited October 2012 Posts: 3,494
    Getafix wrote:
    Pierce was definitely a much bigger commodity in the U.S, seems we here were a lot more familiar with him. My Dad liked RS a lot, I'd seen the show myself, I'll be covering a lot of that this weekend when the originals start to appraise the Dalton era. Other than his similar efforts to Connery in trying to get the Irish film industry moving along, it does seem he's concentrated his efforts on Hollywood rather than GB. Which is where you want to be as an actor trying to make serious money and get serious recognition. I know he truly loved Bond and was thrilled to play him, but I'm thinking he saw it more as a plum role than a serious labo(u)r of love.

    i don't hold anything against him. the scripts were awful and i am not sure any one could have saved those four films from being utterly dire. in that sense he was the right man at the right time.

    I don't know about that entirely. For one, I thought he was good in GE and TLD and I like those films. GE seemed more appropriate for Dalton, but it "looked" like he was starting to develop a persona based on a mix of Connery and Moore in TND. I was interested to see where he was going with that. The last two films, there was little to no progression from TND, but rather regression. I feel TWINE was poorly written and DAD stands as a monument of ineptitude from any POV, but TWINE in particular could have been better from a strictly acting standpoint if he'd had an idea in the vein of his predecessors and successor past a "greatest hits and moments" package. Marceau carries their scenes together, even in her death. Yes she's extremely hot but really, her acting like almost everyone's here leaves a lot to be desired. It's pretty sad when a welcome comedic reprisal of Zukovsky and the last appearance of our beloved Q are the only memorable parts of that film for me.

  • Brosnan was in TLD? Huh, I guess he is my favourite Bond then, but man did he look different in GE ;)

    I think even though it's not the take he wanted, Brosnan did define his Bond, and I really enjoyed it. He was sort of a mix of Connery and Moore but he had these ruthless moments that showed there was a darker side to him (like killing Elektra or Alec).
  • Brosnan was in TLD? Huh, I guess he is my favourite Bond then, but man did he look different in GE ;)

    I think even though it's not the take he wanted, Brosnan did define his Bond, and I really enjoyed it. He was sort of a mix of Connery and Moore but he had these ruthless moments that showed there was a darker side to him (like killing Elektra or Alec).

    Now that you've got your daily wise ass comment in, ha ha ha, how do you define "greatest hits" as original? His most ruthless moment to me easily was killing Kauffmann. It may be his very best moment as Bond. The Alec scene wasn't bad, a little unbelievable that he'd survive that fall to see the satellite dish skewer him, but he was overacting as badly as Marceau in Elektra's death scene.

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