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@Shardlike Personally I'd take at least YOLT, MR, OP, GE (and maybe TND and TWINE) over QoS. They have more charm and sense of fun about them.
Saw TWINE this morning, it's average but it has some decent moments.
Watching TND right now (near the end). Its ok, some of the action is fun but again so-so. Still, it has some memorable scenes.
Watched YOLT the other night and suprised how much I enjoyed it - that film is better than QoS without question. Better action, more charm, better villain, better made and more sucessful at what it was trying to be (a big piece of escapism).
I can't stand Pierce bloody Brosnan and the later Moore films are just down right embarrassing due to Rog just being too damn old to be plausible, the stuntman appear more in those last 2 films than he does.
Pah!! Pish posh! :)) I'm not a massive fan of AVTAK but it does have Christopher Walken and Patrick McNee in wonderful roles. OP is underrated and a decent, exciting little Bond film (its currently in my top 10). It's got its silly moments but the "diamond smuggling under cover of a circus" plot is classic espionage and Moore's reaction to Vijay's death shows that he CAN act a bit when he wants to.
At least the action in those films (OP and AVTAK) is actually put together well.
I've got no problem with more serious Bond films but I just want one that is well paced and has a bit of fun about it. I just don't find QoS that rewatchable. It's not THAT bad (not the worst Bond film btw) and actually has some pretty good scenes, but OP is easily the more charming, more rewatchable, more suspensful film (it has a better theme song too).
You'd better be talking about the 1967 version :p
If only Dalton could have been Bond from FYEO onwards or OP, I think those entries could have been much more suited to his style, Moore is very charming but he feels like old pair of slippers near the end comfortable but worn out.
You won't change my thoughts on Brosnan, he absolute low point of the series for me and although I watched all his films at the cinema I can't say anticipated them like I had LTK, got my Bond mojo back in 2006.
Moore has more charm than Dalton - even in his more serious mode. I've rewatched TLD and FYEO in recent days and Moore just seems the more natural. I can't put my finger on it but there's just something very stagey about Dalton's performances. He's not very charismatic. Moore does very well in FYEO, he's more grounded, less smug and delivers the more serious moments like a pro. I'd actually consider it a good contender for his best performance.
I much prefer TLD to FYEO by a quite a distance.
I like TLD but I actually think I prefered FYEO despite the odd beginning and end. I liked the "revenge" plot better - simple but effective - Julian Glover made for a better bad guy than Whitiker and I prefer the final climax in the monestry to Dalton's showdown with Whitiker (who isn't even introduced until an hour in so his presence isn't felt throughout the film). Daylights is a solid film though and the fight between Green 4 and Necros is great.
I have mixed feelings about Dalton. Watching both him and Moore I can't help but think that, while Moore has his weaknesses, he is more entertaining/relaxed/accessable/charismatic - even when he's "harder". Dalton just seems a bit too "on edge" for me (and I've read a lot of Fleming's books) kind of like Moore in TMWTGG (and I wasn't as keen on him in that - it didn't feel natural).
I suppose it comes down to different acting styles. Dalton's quite intense and dramatic. Whereas Moore is like an old "been there done that" pro by FYEO. I can't decide actually whether Moore's best performance was FYEO or OP - they are both good.
Anyway Craig in QoS is very good but does sometimes struggle with a few of the quips ("she's seasick")
QOS is a decent film, let's not be mistaken! It's better than a couple of Brosnan's films in my opinion, and certainly better than some of the previous Bond films. But what frustrated me about QOS was that you could see that it had all the elements to be a great Bond film and a worthy sequel to CR, and yet these elements were in the wrong order with other substandard elements tagged on in haste.
They should have got Martin Campbell back to direct, they should have waited for the writers-strike to be over or at least found another writer to take over who was willing. And let's get on to that theme track! I deem that track the worst Bond theme of all the films! Even worse than Lulu's theme to TMWTGG! The QOS theme track just clips TMWTGG theme for me as worst Bond theme because Alicia Keys bloody goes out of tune! That track is rather like how the film felt for me - like a rough demo track that was an intended prototype for the actual successful film - and I long for the day when Shirley Bassey's rejected QOS theme is instated instead of the existing one, and the film gets a 'director's cut', or even a 'producers cut' lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCX4SxhpPwE
And the editing for the action (which there's too much of for such a short film), is an obvious Bourne clone.
I think it's the worst but that doesn't mean I think it's awful. I just think compared to the other films, it's not very good.
Well if you read all of my posts in serveral threads than you would know why it is the worst bond film but i will list several reasons:
* The Story is crap- basically a confusing mess of a story basically trying to rehash Licence to Kill for the 21st centuary and failing at it- i mean the villian wants to control all the oil in the country...oh wait sorry he wants to control the countries water supply..right kinda scrapping the barrel for ideas arent you MGM
* The Villian- in all 50 years of James Bond Dominic Greene is the biggest embarrasment since the invisible car- i mean he is basically a euro trash villian who wants a few extra dollars on everyones water bills plus he is a pathetic french pansy...even Kamal Khan from Octopussy or The villian in NSNA were more tougher..
and lets not forget the ever forgetable henchmen sickly callled Elvis
*The Editing- oh god where to begin i swear they just shook the camera and cut 3 frames per second just to get that motion sickness they are trying to emulate Jason Bourne films and they even have the director and editor from the bourne films
* The Bond Girls- Olga's bond girl was plain, annoying and so dull that James Bond's right hand would have made a better bond girl- atleast he could have scored some action with it...Fields was okay but she gets killed off too early in Oil (what a tribute to Goldfinger that was *rolls eyes*)
*The Title Song- Another way to die is simply the worst piece of crap since Die Another Days theme, its a pure autotune mess and why they rejected this theme
* No Humour- honestly apart from 1 or 2 lines of mediocre the story is complete missing humour- hell Casino Royale was awesome and they had good humour but this film is zip.
People say that Die another day was the worst bond film ever need to see that atleast Die Another Day is a bond film true its not the best (atleast it has Miranda Frost, a great performance from Judi Dench and Pierce Brosnan) and a good Pre-titles sequence instead of this garbage which watching it twice i felt like shoving broken glass up my bottom and sitting in a tub of tabasco sauce for 36 hours..
Straightforward question deserves a straightforward answer: Yes!
Although I think the PTS is one of my favourites of the series and Craig's killer line to White as he opens the boot is probably one of his best delivered quips so far, I like the brief moments in the flat and ashtray joke but only then recover with that strikingly original Bregenz sequence (for Bond that is). The Mathis moments are a welcome relief and the climax of the film in the dessert are not too as is the confrontation with Yusef but it just doesn't add up to one cohesive film but I'll take it over all the Brosnan's the last 2 Connery's and quite a few of the Moore's but that's just me. It would easily make my top 10 I think. Just because some of those more familiar entries paste on the cliches for me that doesn't make them instantly better than QOS like it appears to for some, I think sometimes as long as we have tired and tested some people give some of those quite terrible entries and easy time and give QOS a good kicking.
No, it's not as good as CR but much better than TND, DAD & DAF.
Granted, some people may think it has the entertainment value of a fish, but that is their opinion. Everybody has their own. For me personally, it is low on my list, even though Quantum of Solace has quite a few memorable action scenes. It is an exciting film for me, but a step too far away from Bond and storyline sense. I think people see it as missing many of the elements that make up a James Bond film. For instance; there should be a memorable Bond villain/girl, a great supporting cast and a dab of humor.
Quantum's attempts seem quite lackluster, especially in retrospect to the other films often considered to share the lower-tier Bond films. Moonraker's Drax is far more interesting than Greene and Die Another Day's supporting cast is arguably stronger than Quantum's. Honestly the only funny moment on Quantum is when Bond says "well, if they wanted his soul, (Le Chiffe's) they should have made a deal with a priest." It wasn't a standalone story and feels rushed when you watch it.
I still enjoy it though, in fact I enjoy watching every Bond film. But at the end of QoS, I sit back and think: "well that wasn't too spectacular..." But I wouldn't walk away asking Quantum's Mathis for the pills that make you forget.
4 years on I still have trouble deciding where it lies in my ranking. Technically it is pretty good - the cinematography, acting, music. But creatively it suffers greatly from the writer's strike. And yes, the editing is a big problem, but if the film was more coherent and better thought out, the praise would flow in and editing would be less of a sore thumb.
As it stands there are almost no stand out positives. Sure the PTS and opera scene were the better parts but that would've fit into any action movie.
That's it not campy is a good point for me. Why some fans want that campy bs back is still beyond me, tbh. And the comparison with FRWL is unfair, it's the standard for all Bondmovies so to speak so by your logic they would all be bad, then.
The editing was bad and Greene was a forgettable and silly villain, but I agree with dchantry.
QoS is far from the worst in quality, but it "lacks...punch, don't you think?"
In my favourites ranking, there's just not much to like about QoS. Even my lower ranked entries like yolt and dad have some good moments.
The fast editing works for the car chase imho.