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Do people really think QoS is the WORST James Bond movie?

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  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    while QOS is marred with awful editing choices for the action scenes, and the unfortunate timing of the writer's strike.. it's also blessed with terrific acting, and cinematography that rivals OHMSS as the best in the series (in my own humble opinion)..

    QOS sits right in the middle/above average range for me... it's not a great Bond movie, but it's good - it's just got a couple glaring flaws..... but its far from the worst in the series for me - DAD and TMWTGG hold that title..
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited October 2012 Posts: 11,189
    JamesCraig wrote:
    There are too many long action sequences, I'll give you that lol.

    The fast editing works for the car chase imho.

    For the car chase it's ok but I think the boat chase is very poor.

    The plane fight leaves me annoyed because it interrupts a nice, sensitive moment.
  • ZekidkZekidk
    Posts: 3,276
    QoS had so many great elements, and I would rank it as one of the best, if it wasn't for the editing and seizure-cam, which made the movie almost unwatchable for me.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    Does anyone agree that Craig does a great job in QOS?
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    edited October 2012 Posts: 3,497
    HASEROT wrote:
    while QOS is marred with awful editing choices for the action scenes, and the unfortunate timing of the writer's strike.. it's also blessed with terrific acting, and cinematography that rivals OHMSS as the best in the series (in my own humble opinion)..

    QOS sits right in the middle/above average range for me... it's not a great Bond movie, but it's good - it's just got a couple glaring flaws..... but its far from the worst in the series for me - DAD and TMWTGG hold that title..

    This. But I have to admit it entered in my top 10 recently, at nr 10! :-D It pushed GE a bit further down.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    Posts: 4,399
    JamesCraig wrote:
    HASEROT wrote:
    while QOS is marred with awful editing choices for the action scenes, and the unfortunate timing of the writer's strike.. it's also blessed with terrific acting, and cinematography that rivals OHMSS as the best in the series (in my own humble opinion)..

    QOS sits right in the middle/above average range for me... it's not a great Bond movie, but it's good - it's just got a couple glaring flaws..... but its far from the worst in the series for me - DAD and TMWTGG hold that title..

    This. But I have to admit it entered in my top 10 recently, at nr 10! :-D It pushed GE a bit further down.

    QOS sits at #8 in my most recent list - though i may go back and do some rearranging again lol...

    6. Goldeneye
    7. Live And Let Die
    8. Quantum Of Solace
    9. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    10. Licence To Kill
    11. The Spy Who Loved Me

  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    JamesCraig wrote:
    Does anyone agree that Craig does a great job in QOS?

    He does, he's very good.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited October 2012 Posts: 4,399
    JamesCraig wrote:
    Does anyone agree that Craig does a great job in QOS?

    his performance holds the film together from caving in on itself lol... but seriously - his performance was on par with CR for me - in which that film i found him terrific... he had an off the cuff 'annoyed' humor to him at times, that still makes me chuckle with each viewing ..... i guess i am strange, but no one else seems to see it - instead, they seem to call him more robotic - i think the opposite.. i think in QOS he seems a little more relaxed in the role.

  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited October 2012 Posts: 11,189
    HASEROT wrote:
    JamesCraig wrote:
    Does anyone agree that Craig does a great job in QOS?

    his performance holds the film together from caving in on itself lol... but seriously - his performance was on par with CR for me - in which that film i found him terrific... he had an off the cuff 'annoyed' humor to him at times, that still makes me chuckle with each viewing ..... i guess i am strange, but no one else seems to see it - instead, they seem to call him more robotic - i think the opposite.. i think in QOS he seems a little more relaxed in the role.

    I actually see what you mean but I still think in CR he's given more appropriate material to play in regard to humour. The Moore-style quips in QoS don't really suit him.

    Craig is grand in the final couple of scenes though.

    Would I take it over DAD? Of course
  • actonsteveactonsteve
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    BAIN123 wrote:
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    The plane fight leaves me annoyed because it interrupts a nice, sensitive moment.

    Its meant to catch the audience by surprise. Which it does. I love the plane fight. I especially love the plane going into a climb and him and Camille sliding down its length.

  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited October 2012 Posts: 11,189
    actonsteve wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
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    The plane fight leaves me annoyed because it interrupts a nice, sensitive moment.

    Its meant to catch the audience by surprise. Which it does. I love the plane fight. I especially love the plane going into a climb and him and Camille sliding down its length.

    I don't like it. It's just another quick cut action scene thrust in that interrupts the drama.

    It just doesn't work for me.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    Posts: 2,252
    BAIN123 wrote:
    actonsteve wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    [q

    The plane fight leaves me annoyed because it interrupts a nice, sensitive moment.

    Its meant to catch the audience by surprise. Which it does. I love the plane fight. I especially love the plane going into a climb and him and Camille sliding down its length.

    I don't like it. It's just another quick cut action scene thrust in that interrupts the drama.

    It just doesn't work for me.

    And supposing one thought it was a decent scene, it is completely ruined by one of the worst use of CGI
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    Cmon. The plane chase was awful, like every other action scene the editing ruins it, there was no need for it and the CGI is awful.
    JamesCraig wrote:
    Does anyone agree that Craig does a great job in QOS?

    Yep. One of the things I actually liked about the film.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    w2bond wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    actonsteve wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    [q

    The plane fight leaves me annoyed because it interrupts a nice, sensitive moment.

    Its meant to catch the audience by surprise. Which it does. I love the plane fight. I especially love the plane going into a climb and him and Camille sliding down its length.

    I don't like it. It's just another quick cut action scene thrust in that interrupts the drama.

    It just doesn't work for me.

    And supposing one thought it was a decent scene, it is completely ruined by one of the worst use of CGI

    Well in fairness its not as bad as the CG in DAD but it's still pretty obvious

    (Waits for @actonsteve to make a jibe about the GE cliff dive)
  • petergreenhill5petergreenhill5
    edited October 2012 Posts: 824
    QOS isn't the worst IMO. That honour goes to TND. A film that starts well but hen goes badly down hill and has a very tedious second half.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited October 2012 Posts: 11,189
    PeterGreenhill wrote:
    QOS isn't the worst IMO. That honour goes to TND. A film that starts well nut but hen goes badly down hill and has a very tedious second half.

    I watched TND last night. The second half is just noisy action. There's a few good moments though (Pryce's reference to William Randolph Hurst)
  • nobodydoesitbetternobodydoesitbetter
    Posts: 1,021
    PeterGreenhill wrote:
    QOS isn't the worst IMO. That honour goes to TND. A film that starts well but hen goes badly down hill and has a very tedious second half.

    TND worse than DAD?...Even the hotel room sequence with Dr Kaufman is better than anything in DAD...
  • Zorin61Zorin61
    Posts: 418
    I dont think QoS is the worst, but its not in my top 10 either. For me, DAD is the worst Bond movie. QoS was much too short in its running time, and that alone had put negative thoughts into my head even before watching it for the first time. The shaky camera work and fast editing were very frustrating to watch, and AWTD is one of the worst songs of the series - but having said all of that, there were still elements of class about the film, which puts it ahead of DAD, which had so many corny moments..
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    Some people were vomiting on the theater floor when we went to see Solace, during the pre credits sequence, when everything was whizzing round at 100 miles an hour and it was like watching The Blair Witch Project from a Trampoline, a pretty damn awful nauseating mess..

    Lo and behold, when that was over, and if people will still in touch with their sense of mind, we get introduced to arguably the worst James Bond theme in the history of the long running series

    A lot of confusing scenes ensue, Bond does some extreme globetrotting, on a bigger level than before, some loud action scenes, a lot of running and chases but no tangible action or suspense, and all in pursuit of a nasty man who wants to cause a drought and sell back water supplies at highly inflated new prices - what an objective or masterplan

    Kurylenko was nice looking, but not even Bolivian or South American, but fairly convincing and one of the better Bond girls of recent years, but the main adversary and his henchpeople were a disaster and unintentionally amusing. James Bond flies around the screen, does some incredible stunts, the aforementioned elevator escape Houdini would of been proud of, and breaks into a smile as often as Seagal, but for all that, he is a decent Bond, but the sum total - again - is that this movie failed on all fronts. You see why most don't like it, if it were just a handful of people there could be some arguement, but when it's the general consensus, that you have a crap movie on your hands, then that should tell you, or anybody, enough

    Should of let this lie really, and let it slip off quietly over the horizon, but saw this on page three or four. I guess it could stay there, but if I press the submit button..

    Damn, too late

    The page/thread was so stubborn it didn't even want to be moved from where it was !

    Once again, QOS - awful movie, and possibly worst ever. Indeed
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    PeterGreenhill wrote:
    QOS isn't the worst IMO. That honour goes to TND.

    X( [..] :(|) :-q @-)
    You need to see it again, dude. :)>-
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,480
    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, yes. We all have personal preferences. For me, QOS is definitely not the worst Bond film made. Not at all. Lower middle or upper lower range for me.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited October 2012 Posts: 24,187
    Because we haven't a thoughts-on-QOS thread yet?

    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/23249#Comment_23249
    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/369/quantum-of-solace-the-worst-bond-flick-to-date/p7#Item_196
    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/2757/qos-the-bigger-picture-by-paul-rowlands#Item_5
    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/2509/quantums-effect-on-your-opinion-of-craig-and-casino/p2#Item_38
    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/391/quantum-of-solace.-lets-make-it-better
    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/1464/marc-forster-still-defending-his-work-on-quantum-of-solace/p2#Item_40

    And many more. Take your pick! Thread closed.
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