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Agreed. I honestly think it would be kind of cool if the PTS was the scene where Bond finally kills White an introduces himself to Guy Haines...
At first I would have said that this was far-fetched. Then again, in the novel TB, we know SPECTRE is the final, perfected organization based on RAHIR and TARTAR, both created by Blofeld, and that it also was created from the ashes of SMERSH, among others.
You could start Bond 24 with a PTS set before Skyfall, some time after the events of QOS where Bond has been slowly working on destroying Quantum but they're planning one last evil scheme. Bond stops this and this ruins them and all the remaining members get captured, but the head of Quantum (Blofeld) and a few others manage to escape. Then it could jump forward to the present and Blofeld has formed SPECTRE and is hatching some evil plan. Bond stops him but Blofeld gets away at the end. Then Bond 25 could borrow a lot from the YOLT book, Bond kills Blofeld and gets amnesia. He goes to Korea and gets brainwashed (they couldn't use Russians now). Then we get to Bond 26, Craig's last film, which could borrow a lot from the TMWTGG book. Except instead of being sent to kill Scaramanga, maybe Bond could be sent to kill Mr White, who went into business for himself after Quantum broke up, he didn't want to join SPECTRE.
Anyway, if not Blofeld, then I'd love to see General Grubozaboischikov.
The other thing is that begs the question? Is that Bond never met Blofeld or even heard of him seeing as all this is set before Dr No if you are placing the Craig era there? As I have said before, if Blofeld should return? Then it will not happen until there is a new James Bond.
Craig era can't be set before Dr. No for multiple reasons. The obvious ones being the time periods and character's age.
A deal-breaker? You mean that you won't see Bond 24 if it has Quantum in it? That seems like a strange thing to do.
Oh, heavens no. Allow me to explain myself. The deal-breaker for me (something that would cause me great disappointment) would be if Quantum was never brought back up and their arc from CR/QoS was left completely unfinished. I love the organization and CR and QoS, and would find it to be a big mistake to just leave the story arc unfinished and in a mess without any sense of closure. There is so much opportunity for stories if Quantum is brought back and finished off properly in Bond 24/25, and I feel the only proper way to finish their story is to end it where it began: in the Craig era. If we never see the organization again I will be tremendously underwhelmed, to an excessive degree.
That being said, there is nothing that would make me refuse to see a new Bond film, even if Quantum never returns. I love the series with all my heart, and want to support it in any way I can to insure it keeps on going. As the series continues to grow and outlast all other franchises in its path, I can always look back and say that I was part of its continued life and success, as we all are for going out to see the films again and again, buying the DVDs/Blu-rays, Fleming's novels and other merchandise like that.
I'm also excited about the dynamics between M and Moneypenny, I'm hoping they will have at least one memorable scene together.
Couldn't agree more @Thunderfinger. I've been saying this for a while.
I always pictured Quantum as a relatively small organization, actually, with few people in key places. Quality rather than quantity, power rather than number, so to speak.
QoS sets up them up as an all-pervasive organisation. Every organisation has 'a few people in key places', it's the network that becomes difficult to subdue. Al Qaeda didn't die with Bin Laden.
The first thing you should know about Quantum, is that they've got people everywhere.
It doesn't mean they have many people. As I said, they in key places yes, absolutely, but small enough to have avoided detection for a while. Of course, it is debatable that everybody working for them knew they worked for Quantum. Did all of Greene's or Le Chiffre's group of thugs, for instance? Some low level enforcers may think they only worked for whichever member they work for, without knowing the full ramifications.
Oh most definitely. A resilient villain also gives a certain aura of menace that a one/off villain does not. If it is not overused of course. If not Blofeld then a crypto-Blofeld, and/or General Grubozaboischikov and/or the Spangs... Neither have been much developed by Fleming, so there would be room for adaptation in a contemporary setting.
And yes, maybe it would be better to have this recurring villain for the next Bond actor, which would give him something to put his teeth into.
Let's hope Logan doesn't do any copying/mirroring etc. Hopefully he'll be bringing something fresh and unpredictable.
so if Quantum returns you would be upset or happy?
Very happy. Here's my post from just a little up the page:
Oh, heavens no. Allow me to explain myself. The deal-breaker for me (something that would cause me great disappointment) would be if Quantum was never brought back up and their arc from CR/QoS was left completely unfinished. I love the organization and CR and QoS, and would find it to be a big mistake to just leave the story arc unfinished and in a mess without any sense of closure. There is so much opportunity for stories if Quantum is brought back and finished off properly in Bond 24/25, and I feel the only proper way to finish their story is to end it where it began: in the Craig era. If we never see the organization again I will be tremendously underwhelmed, to an excessive degree.
That being said, there is nothing that would make me refuse to see a new Bond film, even if Quantum never returns. I love the series with all my heart, and want to support it in any way I can to insure it keeps on going. As the series continues to grow and outlast all other franchises in its path, I can always look back and say that I was part of its continued life and success, as we all are for going out to see the films again and again, buying the DVDs/Blu-rays, Fleming's novels and other merchandise like that.
Bond seemed to take down SPECTRE, or at least cripple them, throughout the 60's. While that included some dips into out-and-out silliness, there's no reason they couldn't learn from their mistakes and do a somewhat smaller organization less prone to starting World War III in a hollowed-out volcano.
This. If it takes 1 or 2 more films, I think Craig deserves to finish off Quantum before he leaves as Bond. He's already had a good run, and it would only be fitting to see him finish off White and Quantum.
Just because he wants it doesn't mean he'll get it.