The Score of Skyfall

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  • Posts: 1,894
    Because then you're just going to have a jarring, inconsistent score. If you're going to have two composers, then they should work together. Not separately.
  • Posts: 5,745
    You know, why not just pair two composers together? Have Arnold compose the main action themes and remixes, and have another for the softer or tragic themes.

    That doesn't work with editors.

    And I'm pretty sure if my boss brought somebody in to do half my job, I'd quit.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    I totally agree about Pinto - he is an amazing composer. Loved his 'Lord of War' and 'Senna' soundtracks.
  • Posts: 1,894
    Ack ... ack ... must ... resist ... urge ... to ... comepletely ... and ... violently ... disagree!



    Phew. Made it. Gotta say, though - I think I might have injured something. The kind of something I'm going to need later in life.
  • edited December 2011 Posts: 11,119
    Why do we underestimate John Powell so much. He deserves more credit, also for his other movies, like 'Chicken Run'. No Bond material here, but he can compose marvellous melodies:

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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited December 2011 Posts: 24,157
    Why do we underestimate John Powell so much.

    Powell is good, I agree. His Bourne music is solid and some of his other scores are quite well too. X-Men 3 let me down though. As for Bond, sure, he might pull off a decent enough job but right now I think other composers should be considered first.

  • Posts: 5,745
    Just going over the details for PROMETHEUS and I've been looking into Marc Streitenfield. He's like the less known Powell.

    He's Ridley Scott's right hand man when it comes to a composer, and his work on BODY OF LIES is very good. Steady, but intense the score seems to follow. Which is how I enjoy my Bond movies.
    For AMERICAN GANGSTER his score isn't very Bondian, but it fits the movie very well. Again its steady and very intense. The main theme has this great hum in the background with a piercing trumpet playing over. It then folds into strings and just epitomizes the movie so well.
    PROMETHEUS's trailer looks promising, a very effective score over the preview of the film. Its one of my top-must-sees for next year, and partially for the soundtrack.

    I wouldn't be disappointed to see his name attached to a future Bond. Just get him while he's young.
  • tqbtqb
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    Patrick Doyle?

  • SharkShark Banned
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    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    PROMETHEUS's trailer looks promising, a very effective score over the preview of the film. Its one of my top-must-sees for next year, and partially for the soundtrack.



    I doubt Streitenfeld will compose anything as powerful as that, going by his current track record.
  • Posts: 1,894
    Shark, what do you think of the suggestion of Antonio Pinto?

  • Posts: 5,745
    @Shark That was indeed powerful. But hopefully Streitenfield doesn't attempt to. Mimicking always leads to diminishing quality.

    I'm sure his own score will be very powerful through the film, just as the original Alien film.

    Ridley Scott knows what he's doing. I'm more confident in him than Nolan, and thats saying something.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    No-one can replace Goldsmith.

    That said, I think all three scores for the first few Alien films were well-done. Even Horner's half-finished score for Aliens proves quite effective, both in terms of its action and horror orientations. As for Goldenthal's score, much like the film itself, I think it takes a lot more heat than it deserves. I praise Fincher's direction (and wish he could somehow still put together the cut he wanted to show us) and I think the world of the score for Alien³. By the time we reach Resurrection, that's when I'm disappointed on almost every level.

    As for Prometheus, since Goldsmith isn't around anymore, I'm prepared to give the new guy a fair chance, like I always do. I'm only slightly disappointed Scott didn't consider Vangelis. I'm still hoping for another Blade Runner-ish score, by Vangelis, for a Sci-Fi film.
  • SharkShark Banned
    edited December 2011 Posts: 348
    Zekidk wrote:
    For OP, Barry basically only used one theme during the actionscenes: The James Bond theme.

    Listen to 009 Gets The Knife And Gobinda Attacks, The Palace Fight and so on.
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Ridley Scott knows what he's doing. I'm more confident in him than Nolan, and thats saying something.

    Really? TBH, I don't think he's known what he's doing since 1982. Three fine films early on, and then lost his muse, whatever it was.

    Strietenfeld is an exceedingly dull composer. Not bad by any means, just middle of the road. His scores do the job on a basic level, but not much more I'm afraid. It's like what I said about David Arnold scoring the 2012 Olympics. There's so many interesting composers out there in the business, including many contemporary ones who haven't yet crossed over into media yet, and they go with Arnold. It's like having lived on diet of constant Brussels sprouts, and then one day finding a massive box of sweets next to another bowl of Brussels sprouts, and choosing the Brussels sprouts. Bizarre, though I guess people prefer to do what's familiar. Less risk.
    Shark, what do you think of the suggestion of Antonio Pinto?

    I like the sound of SENNA a lot, though I'm not too familiar with Pinto. I'll have check out some of his earlier stuff.
  • edited December 2011 Posts: 1,894
    Try CITY OF GOD and LORD OF WAR. And also LOVE IN THE TIME OF CHOLERA. Those are probably his three better-known films (aside from SENNA, which we've already covered).
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I would honestly like to have Eric Serra have another go. (SHOCK!)

    I think I am the only one here who loved the GE score.
  • Posts: 5,745
    @Shark

    BLACK HAWK DOWN wasn't good? I thought it was an excellent film.

    Yes, his modern films are more under the radar, mediocre thriller films. But they're still in the 5% of good, not great, but good films produced by the industry as of late.

    BODY OF LIES, AMERICAN GANGSTER, and HANNIBAL are all also renown, under the radar films of his. AMERICAN GANGSTER with an excellent score from Streitenfield.
  • Posts: 1,894
    Renown, maybe. But he never acheived the same lofty heights as he did with ALIEN and BLADE RUNNER.

    For me, BLACK HAWK DOWN started a trend of joyless film-making where grittiness and "realism" were valued above all. It culminated with ROBIN HOOD, which undercut the entire character, steadily removing everything that made him a folk hero and turned him into an empty vessel.
  • SharkShark Banned
    edited December 2011 Posts: 348
    BLACK HAWK DOWN is a soulless, glamourised, racist, amoral, simple minded film. It's one big 2 hour + trailer with fake sentimentality, machine gun porn and explosions.

  • Back on topic guys...

    Has anyone mentioned Howard Shore yet? He's the guy who composed The Lord of the Rings...
  • edited October 2012 Posts: 1
    i got a person in mind i think...

    what of Elfman as he did a pretty neat Mission Impossible score
  • TreefingersTreefingers Isthmus City, Republic of Isthmus
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    Has anyone here thought about Jonny Greenwood?

    I think he'd be fantastic. I'd like to see (listen) what he'd be capable of making out of the 'Bond' sound.
  • edited January 2012 Posts: 114
    DarthDimi wrote:
    By the time we reach Resurrection, that's when I'm disappointed on almost every level.

    @DarthDimi I know this is wildly off topic, but I must say, Resurrection's score was not that bad, the main title was superb! While the film may lead people into thinking the score was equally as poor, I wished the film gave the score justice.

  • Posts: 4,619
    From the latest score by Thomas Newman:

  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    This especially one of my biggest concerns of SKYFALL. The first Bond flick not scored by David Arnold in 17 years, so it'll be refreshing to see someone else get a crack at it, especially Newman.
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    This especially one of my biggest concerns of SKYFALL. The first Bond flick not scored by David Arnold in 17 years, so it'll be refreshing to see someone else get a crack at it, especially Newman.

    Licence to Kill had a similar situation, but I think it has one of the best soundtracks in the franchise.

  • edited September 2012 Posts: 4,619
    (wrong thread)
  • Could this be legitimate?

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  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    That's from the game Mafia II soundtrack.
  • Posts: 5,745
    No. That's three months ago. Isn't it from Newman's other work? Or a video game?
  • It isn't Newman's, as said before, it's from Mafia II.
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