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  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
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    KlausHergesheimer wrote:
    When Bond is shooting Silva while he's climbing up the ladder, Silva says something like "good pan, good pan James, for a physical wreck". Is Silva supposed to be saying "plan" or maybe something else and I just heard it wrong.

    I thought he said 'Not bad.'
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited November 2012 Posts: 12,837
    Yeah he said not bad.
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    I love how overworked people get over one stinking gun barrel. Hilarious. It was at the end. So what?

    It's a cool opening sequence, and the opening shot was good but a proper old school GB would've been better imo. Sitting in the cinema with the white dots rolling across the screen is something I've missed over the last few years. And it's not just that it's at the end, I didn't like the design either.

    I'll give SF credit though, it did make sense at the end. Unfortunetly now it's completely ruined the point of the QOS GB being at the end.
  • KlausHergesheimerKlausHergesheimer
    Posts: 152
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    KlausHergesheimer wrote:
    When Bond is shooting Silva while he's climbing up the ladder, Silva says something like "good pan, good pan James, for a physical wreck". Is Silva supposed to be saying "plan" or maybe something else and I just heard it wrong.

    I thought he said 'Not bad.'

    My question isn't about that though, it's whether Silva is supposed to be saying "pan" or "plan".

    Here's the clip to reference:

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    KlausHergesheimer wrote:
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    KlausHergesheimer wrote:
    When Bond is shooting Silva while he's climbing up the ladder, Silva says something like "good pan, good pan James, for a physical wreck". Is Silva supposed to be saying "plan" or maybe something else and I just heard it wrong.

    I thought he said 'Not bad.'

    My question isn't about that though, it's whether Silva is supposed to be saying "pan" or "plan".

    Here's the clip to reference:


    He said, "not bad, not bad James...for a Physical wreck."
  • sirseanisbondsirseanisbond
    Posts: 2,189
    What brand of scotch is it that they try to shoot off of Severine's head?
  • TonyEbikTonyEbik
    Posts: 127
    I loved the ending, Loved everything about the film. The only thing missing from the ending was the hat, the hat he always throws on the coat stand. Maybe that would have been a little bit too much but it would have been a nice touch. A big smile went across my face when I saw the padded door, the coat stand and of course the proper introduction to Eve. (point to remember since casino royale...everything they do will always be a bluff)

    The komodo dragon, nice nod to Rogers Bond (LALD), specially at the beginning with the cuff adjustment. Good wrk with the gadgets on the DB5 ahhhh badly want it on DVD now! Good news is work on Bond 24 has started.

    Also does anyone know what the file said at the end. The file that M (Mallory) chucks at Bond?
  • KlausHergesheimerKlausHergesheimer
    Posts: 152
    Murdock wrote:
    KlausHergesheimer wrote:
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    KlausHergesheimer wrote:
    When Bond is shooting Silva while he's climbing up the ladder, Silva says something like "good pan, good pan James, for a physical wreck". Is Silva supposed to be saying "plan" or maybe something else and I just heard it wrong.

    I thought he said 'Not bad.'

    My question isn't about that though, it's whether Silva is supposed to be saying "pan" or "plan".

    Here's the clip to reference:


    He said, "not bad, not bad James...for a Physical wreck."

    Thanks Murdock! Now it makes sense. I would have never understood what he was saying if you and JWESTBROOK didn't help me with it.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    TonyEbik wrote:
    I loved the ending, Loved everything about the film. The only thing missing from the ending was the hat, the hat he always throws on the coat stand. Maybe that would have been a little bit too much but it would have been a nice touch. A big smile went across my face when I saw the padded door, the coat stand and of course the proper introduction to Eve. (point to remember since casino royale...everything they do will always be a bluff)

    The komodo dragon, nice nod to Rogers Bond (LALD), specially at the beginning with the cuff adjustment. Good wrk with the gadgets on the DB5 ahhhh badly want it on DVD now! Good news is work on Bond 24 has started.

    Also does anyone know what the file said at the end. The file that M (Mallory) chucks at Bond?

    Yeah, the whole "I'm Eve. Eve Moneypenny felt like TDKR's
    Robin joke at the end.
    Oh well. Anyway, the file at the end just had Top Secret on it, with 007 listed below it, indicating it was his assignment and his only.
  • DRush76DRush76
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    Could someone please explain how a MI6 field agent in Istanbul ended up with a list of undercover NATO agents on his computer hard drive. I mean . . . this is the plot arc that set the movie in motion. What was he doing with it and why did the script fail to explain this?


    As for "SKYFALL" . . . IMO, it is one of the worst Bond movies I have ever seen. I believe that both "CASINO ROYALE" and "QUANTUM OF SOLACE" are much better.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    When Silva first says 'Not bad,' I didn't realize he was out of breath, and for some odd reason, immediately thought it was Christopher Plummer.

    @DRush76, it's a sort of macguffin; it definitely pushes the story along, but we just aren't supposed to question why it's there. Perhaps there was a meeting in Turkey that involved this computer drive and they left it with these agents to take back to London or something? Who knows.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Starting the film off without explaining the drive is a big risk, but at the end of the day all it added up to was Silva simply toying with M. Maybe showing her up, if you will. Granted, I didn't like that we didn't get that explained, nor do I think the script is the huge wonder everyone made it out to be when that kind of lazy writing happens.
  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
    edited November 2012 Posts: 2,341
    In regards to any CGI I hardly noticed it. the Komodo Dragons looked as real as those dinos in Jurrassic Park. I must say they did a better job with this CGI than they did in DAD.
    The only scene I might have a problem with is when Silva makes his escape wearing jail coveralls. None of the personnel noticed it?
  • dundadunda
    Posts: 116
    Don't know where to put this....I'm afraid I'm not a great connoisseur of art so I didn't immediately get the connection to Dr. No.
    This is indeed a clever nod http://jibridgland.blogspot.de/2012/11/that-stolen-modigliani-painting-in.html
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    sirseanisbond wrote:
    What brand of scotch is it that they try to shoot off of Severine's head?

    @sirseanisbond, it was a "50-year old MacAllan". It is thought to be a nod to the 50th Bond anniversary, I would think. Note that for single malt Whiskys 50-years old would in fact mean that it was stored in a cask for 50 years before it was bottled, which means it might have been distilled before 1962, like this VERY expensive one:

    http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/selection/macallan_1928_50_yo_whisky.aspx
  • forgotmyusernameforgotmyusername
    Posts: 2,782
    dunda wrote:
    Don't know where to put this....I'm afraid I'm not a great connoisseur of art so I didn't immediately get the connection to Dr. No.
    This is indeed a clever nod http://jibridgland.blogspot.de/2012/11/that-stolen-modigliani-painting-in.html


    Wow, thanks for that. Me thinks SKYFALL needs a closer look. Top work.
  • TonyEbikTonyEbik
    Posts: 127
    Someone mentioned something about the hard drive and how we didnt seem to resolve it at the end?! maybe It was on another thread but the whole hard drive plot was resolved in the enquiry......But I must say when M quotes this:
    "Though much is taken, much abides; and though
    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are;
    One equal temper of heroic hearts,
    Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
    To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."
    It made me smile BIG TIME, It worked so well.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    sirseanisbond wrote:
    What brand of scotch is it that they try to shoot off of Severine's head?

    Macallan - a fine, fine Whisky.

    http://www.wine-searcher.com/wine-120502-0001-macallan-50-year-old-single-malt-scotch-whisky-speyside-scotland

  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    Posts: 4,409
    TonyEbik wrote:
    Someone mentioned something about the hard drive and how we didnt seem to resolve it at the end?! maybe It was on another thread but the whole hard drive plot was resolved in the enquiry......But I must say when M quotes this:
    "Though much is taken, much abides; and though
    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are;
    One equal temper of heroic hearts,
    Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
    To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."
    It made me smile BIG TIME, It worked so well.


    Great scene, it works on so many levels. It explores the relevance of mi6, the empire, and its revelance today. But at the same time it, for me, it serves as the scene in which Bond is 'resurrected', he may not be as relevant as he once was, and he may be slightly scuffed-up, but sometimes you need a hero.
  • ChampionAlonsoChampionAlonso
    edited November 2012 Posts: 389
    I have some doubts about the plot.
    do you think Silva wanted to be captured by the mi6? I think that he had prevised or anticipated the posibilty of being arrested by Bond, but he had many other options to attack M in mind.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    I think that being captured was his contingency plan, but honestly, I think his intention was to, maybe, lead M to suicide. He clearly wanted to humiliate her, and it was her actions that drove him to his attempted suicide, so he probably thought it would be poetic justice.
  • bondbat007bondbat007
    Posts: 1,407
    I just assumed the hard drive was recovered from Silva's island. But of course M still had to answer for the 3 agents killed. I think the plot is quite good
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    bondbat007 wrote:
    I just assumed the hard drive was recovered from Silva's island.

    Y'know, why do people keep asking the particular question of "where'd the hard drive go?" when this is a quite obvious answer.
  • bondbat007bondbat007
    Posts: 1,407
    Agent007391 wrote:
    bondbat007 wrote:
    I just assumed the hard drive was recovered from Silva's island.

    Y'know, why do people keep asking the particular question of "where'd the hard drive go?" when this is a quite obvious answer.

    I'll admit, maybe one little line from M or Tanner could of settled it but that was what I assumed when I first saw it. Don't know why everybody is making a huge deal out of it
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Here's a question I'd like an answer to: Where the hell was Silva's island?
  • ChampionAlonsoChampionAlonso
    Posts: 389
    Agent007391 wrote:
    bondbat007 wrote:
    I just assumed the hard drive was recovered from Silva's island.

    Y'know, why do people keep asking the particular question of "where'd the hard drive go?" when this is a quite obvious answer.
    It is an interesting view. But what would have happend if Q had not oppen Silvas computer and conected to Mi6 net? May be Silva had more plans to escape. He seemed ver confident about his plans.

  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    Agent007391 wrote:
    Here's a question I'd like an answer to: Where the hell was Silva's island?

    Somewhere outside Chine i suppose, even though the real island is outside Japan.
  • ChampionAlonsoChampionAlonso
    Posts: 389
    Agent007391 wrote:
    Here's a question I'd like an answer to: Where the hell was Silva's island?
    In Asia, not very far frm Macao.
  • bondsumbondsum
    Posts: 3,333
    MrBond wrote:
    Agent007391 wrote:
    Here's a question I'd like an answer to: Where the hell was Silva's island?

    Somewhere outside Chine i suppose, even though the real island is outside Japan.
    Where did the Royal Navy helicopters come from?
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
    edited November 2012 Posts: 7,854
    ChampionAlonso wrote:
    May be Silva had more plans to escape. He seemed ver confident about his plans.

    Well, the man had been planning this for decades, so he probably had 50+ plans ready for what he wanted to do. And, despite his death, the man succeeded.
  • DRush76DRush76
    Posts: 533
    Y'know, why do people keep asking the particular question of "where'd the hard drive go?" when this is a quite obvious answer.


    How did you come to the conclusion that the list of NATO agents originally came from Silva's island? Did the movie state this?
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