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Funny to read someone who like blue-and-orange Skyfall, writing so much black-and-white comments.
Anyhow, all those who criticize Matthew Vaughn and love Skyfall, should remember that probably, if you look at the history, no Vaughn = no Skyfall...
Uhm, I like Kingsman a lot ok? You overreact. So "sjeeeeee" Mr, I just pointed out some differences between Bond and Kingsman. Haven't even mentioned Skyfall. Moreover, I was the one who was excited for this film. Hence the "2015 Spy Craze" topic.
Try to moan a bit less. And don't show off some irrItalians about forummembers so obviously.
I mean you say that if you like Kingsman better than any of the three Craig films then you're more of a Kingsman fan than a fan of Ian Fleming's 007 but that's not true at all. Someone might feel that Craig's Bond isn't that great a representation of Fleming's Bond (for me he nailed the book Bond in CR but in QoS he was too cold blooded and in SF he was more of a Connery/Moore type, Lazenby remains the closest Bond to Fleming imo), or that the films don't capture the spirit of Fleming's Bond. Or they might just think Kingsman is a better made film or it's more entertaining than the Craig movies despite preferring the Fleming books to Kingsman.
I loved (most of) the Fleming books but I'm 100 percent certain that Kingsman will (at least) blow Quantum Of Solace out of the water, and based on how much I loved Kick Ass and Layer Cake, I could end up preferring it to CR and SF too (it certainly looks better than SF action wise, although I don't think Bond should copy Kingsman's action scenes, too comic book). But that doesn't mean I'm more of a Kingsman fan than a Fleming fan. I'm still a Bond fan first and foremost even if I end up preferring a different film to the Craig films :)
And you say there are Kingsman fans and there are Bond fans but, based off the heavy Bond inspiration/references in Kingsman, and the fact that every forum member so far has loved it, and the fact that one review said it was for people who had seen "far too many James Bond films", I think it's very likely that those two groups are going to have a lot of the same members.
Anyway, I'm going to the cinema to see it tonight :D Can't wait.
Yes, that does get very tiresome.
Matthew Vaughn = Layer Cake = Daniel Craig on the radar of EON It's even worse than that. It's not about who is the "better Bond fan" like in "Do you know where we hear La Bamba in a Bond movie", it's about who "really understand what Bond movies are about". By people using the box office to make a point... ! I don't know if there are threads on Transformers forums about the fact that the 4th one is the only true TF movie :)
LTK ;)
It's frustrating, when the one reason I joined was to enjoy talking about these films with other people. Expressing my enjoyment of the franchise and having discussions during production. Not going back and forth between trying to argue your point when of course everyone's gonna think differently to you and yes they're people who agree with you, but there's no point in trying to push your opinion onto other people, when all they're gonna do is ignore you or try and push their opinion onto you. Of course, express that opinion but just accept that no everyones going to agree with you. Also, I really get what you're saying @Suivez_ce_parachute
What ? You care about movies that flopped ? :)
Back to Kingsman : IMO, if it's a unexpected hit, along with the GOTG unexpected hit, and if in the same time the DC approach fail to work, then maybe the zeitgeist of the next blockbusters will be more fun oriented... And the other way around if it bombs and the DC movies work. And EON will take this into account, IMO.
I've just seen the last Fantastic Four trailer, hmm... I really don't get what they're trying to do frankly.
Alas, since it's indeed true that $1Bn is bigger than $800M, some people think their opinion is a fact :(
However I have seen two of them and both were terrible. Redhat is abominable. No-name cast and dull dull dull.
Taken 3 is contrived nonsense. This franchise needs to die. The story is plausible within the framework of the Taken universe, but the execution of the story is terrible.
Kingsman, I do think will be quite good. The film does seem to have a healthy self awareness, with emphasis on grounded fantasy entertainment.
By grounded, I mean it can be taken seriously within its own broad parameters. ie not farce or pure spoof.
It is Not Bond, it's not trying to be.
That's simply nonsense.
I think my point was not really to proclaim who's a better fan. I just wanted to have a discussion about the differences.
I just wanted to say, that I loved the film a lot as well. You know, it wasn't my intention to bring up such a fierce discussion. It's more that I think people should be respectful towards others. Even if we start comparing films with other films. Like everyone did with "Kingsman". Some people simply aren't I think.
I really liked "Kingsman". And if one of the comments made me me implied that I disliked the film, then people are blind. And also, I am still curious if this film can result into a new very succesful franchise. And if the Kingsman-films will get a big fanbase.
Perhaps I was a bit too black-and-white with the definition of "fan". Sorry for that. In any case, this is a nice topic for all fans of spy films ;-):
http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/10543/the-2015-spy-craze-is-on-dear-bond-laddies#latest
Remains to be seen whether Uncle can spurn offspring as well.
Some years ago, "Vaughn's Layer Cake put Daniel Craig on EON's radar" was somehow considered a trivia in Bond circles.
But now that Vaughn has made Kingsman that is considered by some a blow at EON, will this trivia disappear ? :)
Vaughn was actually a top contender to direct CR. He has said in interviews that he was actually offered the job by MGM and accepted and it was only a few days later when he was informed that the offer was invalid as it had not been approved by EON.
Vaughn has had elements of the Bond pictures in all his films, most obviously Kingsman and his 60's set X-Men film.
But don;t hold out hope of him doing a Bond film anytime soon. According to Vaughn; him and Barbara Broccoli do not get on at all. Apparently Vaughn deeply offended her once and she refuses to speak to him.
Exactly! It's the 1960's all over again lately for 007 :-S
Mathew Vaughn manages the impossible. He takes some of the high camp and fantasy of '70s shows like 'The Persuaders' and 'The Avengers' but manages to make you care about the characters whilst delivering a highly stylised cocktail of high octane pastiche violence and outright belly laughs.
The movie moves like a rocket, has shock plot twists a plenty and ultimately leaves you with a huge smile on your face.
The entire cast are superb and the new faces work well and hold their own with the established super stars. There isn't a bad performance on the screen but Samuel L Jackson and Colin Firth are absolutely the first amongst equals.
All in all, 'The Kingsman' is pure entertainment and if you don't like it you should check your pulse!
Well, he has already done a movie in which Daniel Craig plays someone with a short life expectancy, manipulated by secret organizations, who has to do his first killing, and who ends up being an hopeless prisoner, etc :)
Come again? :)
Sorry? :P