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I think we all agree on this point. But as I've said, the female focus of this film was on Dench and the introduction of our new Moneypenny. Sadly, we were not supposed to see Bond get the girl in the end.
But what an end Sir Henry, what an end!
Yes indeed dear Sandy, and thank you as well for the warm welcome back. If one can understand Severine was the sacrificial lamb, then the ending was entirely satisfying. We've come full circle. But I have my niggles as my British cousins would say, and I had hoped he'd have rescued Severine and had the girl in the end.
Yes, she definitely did. More than Solange, one of my favorite sacrificial lambs of all time. Excellent point.
And this has what to do with Severine (the title of the thread BTW)?
This also follows the "mirroring" of characters in SF. Bond is initially furious and resentful that M sees her agents as disposable (ordering Bond to leave Ronson to die, commanding Eve to "take the bloody shot!") because they are not as important as achieving the objectives of the mission. But then Bond acts in the same way; using Severine to get to Silva because that's the most important thing to him (it also gives resonance to the scene where he tells M at the lodge that she was just "doing her job").
As I said in another thread, I like that (character wise and psychologically) a lot of the stuff in SF was subtle and not hammered home. I would imagine that more will become obvious when I see it a second time.
Yes, thats it. 'The Lady from Shanghai'. She doesn't need any more time
Her stories over. Like Jill Masterson shes still memorable
Some people are stuck on the "girl kisses Bond at finale" cliche.
I think it's less about wanting the traditional 'Bond gets the girl ending' and more that people were interested and intrigued by her character and then suddenly she's gone. You want more - not sure any one really feels that about Jill Masterson.
IMO the film also goes markedly down hill after Severine's death. Up to that point it builds quite nicely. However, the moment they leave the island it just becomes incoherent and really diappointing. There was a nice intertwined story to be resolved between Silva, Severine and Bond, but instead we just get 'M- The Movie'. I know some people love it because of that, but I would have prefered a more Bond-centric film.
Oh, they are. The cages of our sick, lonely, loveless minds, always searching yet never capturing the touch of one so alluring as Ms. Severine...
Er-I mean..yeah, man, cages and all that... :-\"
Jill Masterson? The most famous Bond girl of the lot. One featured in two scenes and who made cover of TIME mag?
Severine is very memorable and works within the structure of the story.
It doesn't kill SF for me at all. I still think there's a lot to love...but it wa
We remember Severine because her depth, her shivering fear about Silva. Such a small role but very memorable
For such a small role she is very memorable.
Why would anyone mention her after her death?