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But I would say keep it to a single, thread, I should know I've been closed twice in less than a week.
Sadly, I think that epitomises what passes for 'discussion' in this day and age. C'est la vie.
If the mods allow it, let it be.
Time will ultimately tell with regards to SF, i think once the hype and tribute elements die down which we are all caught up in one way or another, this film may be viewed very differently.
Of course i want any bond movie to be a success and SF is definitely that, it keeps the franchise going.
Of course there should be a place for people who were disappointed by or did not like SKYFALL. But then those people should be accepting other people's views.
Those who did like the movie refuse to accept the views of those who didn't. Which is why they have been posting on this thread in order to insult and undermine the guy who first created it.
Lets think about it, does SF Have a better plot than every other bond? does it have better action? does it have better characters? does it have a better script? does it have a better film score? does it have better set design? is SF more original than the other movies? personally i am not sure there is anything original in SF. is SF More fun or more dramatic than every other film. personally i think it fails in most of these areas.
How dum can you be? Next thing he would have yell to Silva:
"Hey Sil' old pal, WE'RE HERE"!
But I was able to get past those annoyances to enjoy a very good performance by the cast on the whole.
1) The Harddrive was a Macguffin just like ATAC was in For Your Eyes Only
2) Its the 50th annavisary they can borrow elements from Goldeneye such as the villian being a former Mi6 Agent why? because why not? its a celebration of Bond
This one is easy. Its landscape, its dark, the ground is uneven. M was shakey on her legs. You NEED a light to see, where there are bumps or holes etc in the ground in order to not fall or stumble.
Has nothing to do without knowing where to go. ;)
To be fair, I know the woods near my house like the back of my hand but were I to enter it at night, I'd bring a flash light as well. It's full of nasty pits and chunks of wood sticking out. I don't want to break my legs. ;-)
I enjoyed Skyfall, too, though. ;)
Well said @Creasy47. DTK's views may not be to everyone's tastes bit he has a right to state them without getting a kicking. I can see he has been getting quite annoyed but he was provoked beyond all acceptable limits on the other thread by rude and offensive posts. I think he has already apologised for any offence he may have caused. It would have been nice if others could have shown the same contrition, but I don't think that's part pf their playbook.
Any way, I see this thread as a bit like Skyfall lodge. We have all the key characters present and correct. The goons are outside baying for blood, but we have our twenty minutes of screentime and this time round we're going to have the proper chat that Bond and M were never given the chance to have.
My concern is if this passes as the best we can do from Eon and the best Bond ever for critics the future looks grim.
I have to say that I basically agree with what Darth and Bain were saying then and still feel the same way now, perhaps even more so. I personally found DC's Bond easier to like and care about in CR and QoS than SF. I get the sense that DC's entire tenure is going to be a psyschological journey of discovery, a la Bourne. To my mind SF was one long, yawn inducing and weakly plotted red tape conflict, overshadowed entirely by 'M'ummy. The centre of gravity with the DC era seems to be moving ever closer to Whitehall and away from any actual work that Bond might presumably have to do. You feel the weight of bureaucratic MI6 bearing down on Bond ever more oppressively. Perhaps this is what makes SF so 'Fleming'? As Mendes said in an interview, he knew that the central character of SF was M right from the start, which never gave us much hope of getting our old Bond back. Still, there's always next time... again.
- Bond.
- M.
- Here's the mission. You will find so-and-so, do this-and-that and 007,
- Sir
- This is the big one!
And no more M for the rest of the film, except, perhaps, in a funny coda.
or you may find his Ireland past comes back to haunt him
@craigrules, I think that was the '95-'02 era!
@DarthDimi, I hope you're right! Although, given Dench's ability to jump across timelines, I wouldn't rule out her returning at some point in the future...
What I'm envisaging for Bond 24 is Bond battling a series of paternity suits dating back to the 60s and Moneypenny going after him for sexual harassment in an internal MI6 tribunal. It's got all the makings of a true classic. And to add the requisite 'Fleming' touch, perhaps Bond can set fire to his own flat at the end of the movie, before being carted off to Broadmoor.
But did they have any kids...
Son of M... be afraid, be very afraid. Next up, Bond as an only child and his attitude to surrogate siblings.
Because a few members made it very clear we were not welcome. It's not easy to have a bit of light hearted banter when you've got people screaming 'troll' at you in every other post or going on about how you must be Moonraker fan if you don't like SF. Any way, it's fine like this I think. The other thread's practically dead now any way - just a few 'best Bond ever' reviews and that's it - just how they wanted it.
Surely thats what mods are for to stop it? If it don't work? Terminate them! B-) ;)
If you ask me, it wasn't handled very even handedly, but these things are a difficult call and the mods do the best they can with a sometimes rowdy crowd! But then I'm a bit biased.
Any way, love and peace.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGuffin
Same with MI:3, the object Davian wants to get his hands on (In German it was called "Hasenpfote", don't konow the English word) never is explaiend nor do we get a glimps on it.
Means the hard drive first gets Bond in touch with Patrice, then Patrice leads him to Shanghai and later on to Sévérine and finally with Silva himself.
Another thing is, I have to admit, that it is highly unlikely that Silva had planned all of this for years and years (the new MI 6 headquarters and all that). But then, hey, this is not documentary movie, but also a fabrication of fiction. People who want a more realistic movie on that topic, TAILOR TINKER SOLDIER SPY ahs this more downbeat approach and it is an excellent movie.
So lighten up, gentlemen, after all it is only a movie meant to entertain people and give them 145 minutes of fun...
Therefore: 1/10. The 1 is for that hot French chick.