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I think you're the one following my friend. I would love to avoid your posts if possible but it's like trying to avoid stepping in sh*t while cleaning out a pig sty. I read through a number of paragraphs and opinions from various posters then every so often there's a one line statement from yourself, usually in jest or deliberately provocative. I've no real interest in your review or whatever theory you're on about but thanks anyway.
I hope the short comings as i perceive them are a direct result of the 50th anniversary. Looking over the past 50 years of bond movies, thankfully there have been many changes of direction in the series. Plus M is dead so that's a positive of sorts, felt M should be a minor character, disliked how central M was in SF and TWINE. Though i am biased as never took to Dench as M.
I'm not calling Skyfall Pee Wee's Playhouse, I am just saying that the funny moments added up are far more lighthearted and cheeky than we have seen in the past where not as many quips were said. Obviously the film has its sad moments, or moment actually, when M dies. Other than that, I didn't feel much of a connection to Severine, and that is likely due to her lack screen time and little effect/importance on the plot.
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I think the film is excellent, it's in my top 10, but I prefer reading negative reviews. I find those Best Bond Ever-Classic Bond-Beautiful Cinematography reviews boring. I'm not reading them any more, especially if they are miles long.
What annoys me the most is that people are being bashed for expressing their opinion. I can't believe that those who didn't like the film are being called trolls and attention seekers.
I enjoyed some of the jokes. I guess I just feel the scripted humour was funnier in the Maibaum era - like genuinely clever.
The couple on the tube platform were mildly amusing but did feel like a throwback to the lamer sight-gags of the Moore era. Perhaps that's no bad thing. Both Sam and Daniel grew up in the Moore era so they must harbour some love for those old school romps.
The audience where I saw it barely uttered a titter throughout though, which I don't think is what Mendes intended.
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Welcome to the club of reasonable people. To anyone else, you get a free beer if you join.
It'll have to Heineken. ;)
Just keep your fingers over the label!
Sorry, but that's just not right.
How on earth to I provoke people? Have I insulted him? Have I used cuss words?
No, I haven't. He has and nobody of the mod team responds. It's not only because of his posts in this thread, btw.
:D
Is this another one of your jokes?
And that's it.
Thats exactly what I thought funnily enough. Given how nasty he was to a woman he'd known for several years one would have thought he'd have no hesitation in killing Kinkade.
Still, I'm going to let that go.
It's when Mallory is giving M a verbal going over. He's being a cold fish, and a bit nasty, saying that she should step down and take voluntary retirement ie you should get the push. And M replies, 'Oh come on Mallory, do you think I'm stupid?' As if he's being really subtle and she's rumbled what he's up to. But... he's making it deliberately pretty overtly clear what he's up to, what he means. It's not exactly any mystery or anything.
Its so Mr Dumb audience member will understand ;)
This is effectively how Mendes described the film.
First I want to point out that I thought Quantum of Solace was a good movie even though it relied a little too heavily on action. I liked the plot in QoS too. Quantum was a realistic criminal organization that was uncovered by Bond through the James Bond fashion. He had a lot of brute force, but he was still stylish. There was also much symbolism in QoS if you look for it. My final point on QoS was that it tied together everything from Casino Royale perfectly. Apart from all of the constant, I would say at times warranted, action it was a good sequel in my opinion.
I believe as others do that Skyfall suffers from lazy writing. Perhapse it isn't the plot I found unappealling, but rather it was the dialog and the way scenes are carried out. I found these aspects of the movie to be really bad and uninspired. There were occational times that I like what was being said, but most often not. Apart from some of the dialog with M, I didn't find any of the conversations in each scene that memorable. The whole movie felt like they kind of had to throw stuff in to fill it. In Casino Royale every scene had interesting dialog and it was believable. From a psychological standpoint Casino Royale is the best Bond film ever made, and I feel that Solace and Skyfall kept a trace of that. However, Casino Royale was made much more like a traditional film from many decades ago. Scenes were simple, but had many subtle complexities found in the characters. Although we are debating fiction, in CR everything can be easily explained as far as plotholes are concerned. In Skyfall there were too many times when I thought "that was just too convienent" to have happened. I agree with the OP on how the perfectly placed bomb in the subway sequence was too convienent. It may be nitpicking, but I think there was a standard I prefer set in CR. To each his own, okay, but like someone said ^ we should rather be getting "spy-thrillers" and not "action-movies" with explosions to build suspense. In Skyfall I feel also everything that was complained about In QoS was amplified here. The character development wasn't very good and they placed action in to fill space. Bardem's villian was a bit of a let down for me. Not sure if that was his fault or just the direction they wanted him to go in. In serious scenes the audience in the theater was laughing at him. I didn't laugh because I was just a little upset.
I understand that some reviewers point to the dourness of the last two Craig films. I rather liked that about them actually. Casino Royale made me feel like I know what the life is like of a real MI6 agent (well a really stylish and intelligent one) is like. I didn't feel that way as much in QoS but the villian Greene and the Quantum organization was still believable. This film did feel a little more lighthearted than the last two contrary to some of the events that take place. In a way that isn't a bad thing, but it kind of felt taken to a level where it felt fake. I wish the drama was presented better I guess. I was annoyed at the abandoning of the noc list in the story too. Perhapse it wasn't the most important part of the plot but they shouldn't have just ditched it like that. They could have done more with the story in terms of presenting the significance undercover agents. That is an important message that wasn't fully realized here I think.
There are somethings that I did love in Skyfall though. In my assessment Craig is still the best Bond and he is dashing and stylish, yet believable. I loved the backstory we now have for James. I liked the climatic showdown in Scotland (but could have had more memorable scenes). I agree that the cinematography was exceptionally well done. I love how the ending set up for future Bonds (hopefully to make them more like Casino Royale or espionage focused). I really want to see Skyfall again. QoS is better each time I watch it and maybe I will feel the same for Skyfall. Overall, it was an mediocre Bond film for me, but it wasn't Casino Royale.
I do admit though- ever since someone pointed out that in the PTS Eve should have absolutely taken another shot after accidentally hitting Bond, it's been bugging me....
Hopefully I won't find many more annoyances on my second viewing.
Silva isn't the villain in Skyfall...IT'S EVE!!! /:)
I'm so glad that you brought that up @Zekidk. I've been reading a lot about the humor of Skyfall on here, but none of it really worked, at least for the audiences I've been with. I've seen it four times so far in Imax with packed crowds and none of the jokes worked with them and there were hardly any laughs at all, which I found disappointing. There were times that I wanted to laugh, but I had to hold it back because the audience was just silent.
When I asked one of my friends I brought to the movie what he thought of Skyfall, the first thing he said was that you could tell they tried to be funny but it just didn't work and that all those lines were so cheesy. These are all American audiences by the way, so maybe the humor works better for European audiences. I really don't have an explaination.