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Bond 21 with Brosnan. How would you have it?

MrBondMrBond Station S
edited November 2012 in Bond Movies Posts: 2,044
Okay, I adore CR and i wouldn't change it for any film at all. But if Brosnan should have made his fifth movie in 2004. How would you have it? Like the game Everything or Nothing or like anything else? Which director should have done it and which actors should have been in it?
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  • X3MSonicXX3MSonicX https://www.behance.net/gallery/86760163/Fa-Posteres-de-007-No-Time-To-Die
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    Yes. Everything or Nothing should do it. And nuff said.

    He would make the best Bond exiting ever.
  • 002002
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    Everything or Nothing would have been a great film- his peformance in the game was really good he had less puns and had more of an edge, Willem Dafoe would have made a great villian, Shannon Elizabeth (if they fleshed out her charater more would have been better than Halle Berry or Denise)
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    I've would have loved a more espionage movie in the vein of FRWL. I'm sure if Brosnan got the right script and a good director then he could have easily pulled it off!

    Think a smoky scene like this, with Brosnan and the female lead. With some sophisticated music in the background... That would have been a perfect send-off for Brosnan!
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  • JamesBondJamesBond
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    bond_21__honour_among_spies_by_jackchristian-d5h3px9.jpg

    Well? How's about that?
  • oorogersoorogers
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    they should of made everthing or nothing into a film but i do like the poster jamesbond
  • sirseanisbondsirseanisbond
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    Pierce would have been better suited to make an extra movie before GE, rather than after DAD. He was simply getting too old and frankly he got out before it started to show too badly, like it did with Rog...
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited November 2012 Posts: 12,837
    Everything Or Nothing wouldn't work as a film. Too OTT, it was like a DAD sequel. Fun to play and it had some really cool moments but there was plenty of stuff too stupid for a film, like the wierd tron training, titanium tanks, the a secret base with a force field in Egypt, etc.

    Some things taken from it would be cool though, like Dafoe's villian.

    I disagree @sirseanisbond, Brosnan became Bond at the right time. In the 80s he wasn't suited for it at all.

    I'm not sure what the film would be about but I'd have liked Brosnan to play Bond suited to his age. Older, world weary but still badass.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited November 2012 Posts: 11,189
    Brosnan goes to New Zeland to hunt down the evil madman who sabotaged his last adventure and almost cost him his 00-status.When Bond arrives in NZ he is astonished to find out from his contact Martin that this man leads a double life as a transfestite. When Bond finally manages to track down this master in villany at his cliffside resort he has an epic fight to the death with him which results in the bad guy falling off the cliffs to his death."You are the one that has to face gravity" quips Bond. The film ends with Judi Dench's M ringing Bond up asking for him to come back. Bond says "thanks but no thanks. This is my last mission. It's been wonderful and I'll miss you but there's a new man I think you may like. He's somewhat...different...to me".
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    It's a shame that Everything Or Nothing was used on a game; it would have been cool as the title to a Bond film.

    It would have been interesting to see the rally chase from EON, on the big screen, however.

    @BAIN123 - nice one ;-)
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    Oh god, the thread has derailed =))
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
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    To stay on topic. Back in 2004, when we more or less got acquinted with the fact that Brosnan would not return, I was kinda....angry. I mean, it's not Brosnan's fault that 'Die Another Day' derailed to such a cheesy CGI-show.

    Brosnan could have played in an almost unadjusted 'Casino Royale' as well, perhaps with a bit less freestyle running, but the torture scene could have been great with Brosnan as well. 'Casino Royale' then would do for Pierce what 'For Your Eyes Only' did to Roger Moore after 'Moonraker'.

    'Casino Royale' would net not have the huge time reboot, which it had with Daniel Craig. Maybe Moneypenny and Q would still have appeared in that film as well.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I wouldn't give Brosnan a 5th Bond. He failed to get a grasp of the character in 4 films, so I wouldn't bother wasting time with another Bond for him.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    Gustav_Graves wrote:
    To stay on topic. Back in 2004, when we more or less got acquinted with the fact that Brosnan would not return, I was kinda....angry. I mean, it's not Brosnan's fault that 'Die Another Day' derailed to such a cheesy CGI-show.

    Brosnan could have played in an almost unadjusted 'Casino Royale' as well, perhaps with a bit less freestyle running, but the torture scene could have been great with Brosnan as well. 'Casino Royale' then would do for Pierce what 'For Your Eyes Only' did to Roger Moore after 'Moonraker'.

    'Casino Royale' would net not have the huge time reboot, which it had with Daniel Craig. Maybe Moneypenny and Q would still have appeared in that film as well.

    Yes that's what i think too. Because in fact he wanted to do a serious Bondfilm. With a somewhat meatier script. Because even though he was mediocre in many times, when he plays good he does it good.
    If they made EoN, but with downtoned action sequences, a lot more dialoguescenes and Wilhelm Defoes characther down-toned. Well then we could have a good film, and certainly a better send off then DAD.
  • 002002
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    thelivingroyale wrote:
    Everything Or Nothing wouldn't work as a film. Too OTT, it was like a DAD sequel. Fun to play and it had some really cool moments but there was plenty of stuff too stupid for a film, like the wierd tron training, titanium tanks, the a secret base with a force field in Egypt, etc.

    Some things taken from it would be cool though, like Dafoe's villian.

    I disagree @sirseanisbond, Brosnan became Bond at the right time. In the 80s he wasn't suited for it at all.

    I'm not sure what the film would be about but I'd have liked Brosnan to play Bond suited to his age. Older, world weary but still badass.

    The Tron Training section was for new players to test the controls it would have been in the film, a force field is probarly more sensibile than Gene therapy, Platnium tanks would be cool to see
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    002 wrote:
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    Everything Or Nothing wouldn't work as a film. Too OTT, it was like a DAD sequel. Fun to play and it had some really cool moments but there was plenty of stuff too stupid for a film, like the wierd tron training, titanium tanks, the a secret base with a force field in Egypt, etc.

    Some things taken from it would be cool though, like Dafoe's villian.

    I disagree @sirseanisbond, Brosnan became Bond at the right time. In the 80s he wasn't suited for it at all.

    I'm not sure what the film would be about but I'd have liked Brosnan to play Bond suited to his age. Older, world weary but still badass.

    The Tron Training section was for new players to test the controls it would have been in the film, a force field is probarly more sensibile than Gene therapy, Platnium tanks would be cool to see

    I'd say for the Egyptian secret base they'd use like a glass dome ala TSWLM.
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
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    Dryden shoots Brosnan.

    The end.
  • UmustbjockingUmustbjocking
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    By his own admit ion in DAD he looked "seasoned" so time is a killer
  • JamesBondJamesBond
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    Back to the topic, Brosnan is a great Bond, and he would have been great in B21. As a fan, I have to storylines already written for a Brosnan Bond adventure.
  • myworldisenoughmyworldisenough
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    I think Brosnan departed at the right time. I think he was a victim of DAD, he and the franchise were out of favour with the general mood of movie goers who like me wanted a fresh start.
  • JamesBondJamesBond
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    Look how they worked with FYEO after MR received negative reviews. They didn't reboot the series, they behaved like professionals, but that Babs ruined the entire Bond material, still trying to copy that scumbag Jason Bourne.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited November 2012 Posts: 4,537
    First of all i liked the idea P&W whant to make A Villian from Falco. One idea i have mind be that Falco be Draco his father and contuned the drugs story and Draco his mother kild her self from life. It bring Bond to Romania and also back to the castle of The World is not enough where Paul Bettany as corrupt agent killing 1 or 2 people and the only third person Doctor Warmflash escaped and of course she be in big danger. Directed by Michael Apted or Michael Caton Jones. Cinematopgraphy by Philip Meheux (Goldeneye) Released in 2005. I wil give Charles and Moneypenny the respect there don't get with DAD. At the end playing a on funeral and then Draco returns and M shoot him when he try kild family members from Michael Kitchen Tanner (Tanner be kild in the gunbarrel scene by a mysterious man who later be refeald als Falco.) and Brosnan making a comment whant look like on: M i think you yust yet get you balls back.

    Title possible have been: Never let them see you bleed

    In the nexr one: What happend at ther funeral should not possible the earlier things who happen should result that it is time for Commanderbond: Bond 22 worktitle: Back to scool.

    What's left from this now is that i like to see a Bond movie in Romania and the self killing from Draco mom i have liked to see in the M movie, Twine spinoff and Elektra her mom and sister killing them self. Also the castle returns, but then in flashback from the 70's.

    The back to scool/basic elements who i liked to see i see a litle bit in QOS and in CR less then in QOS. Sometimes i think it wil not go fast enough, but things need time. Also this you can see very good in a couple of my fanarts. Inspecialy in 007 in New York.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
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    Kerim wrote:
    Dryden shoots Brosnan.

    The end.

    I'm a big Brosnan fan but that got a laugh out of me.
  • 002002
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    JamesBond wrote:
    Look how they worked with FYEO after MR received negative reviews. They didn't reboot the series, they behaved like professionals, but that Babs ruined the entire Bond material, still trying to copy that scumbag Jason Bourne.

    yeah i agree i mean after A View to a Kill did they reboot Bond? no they carried on with Timothy Dalton..sure DAD was terrible but Brosnan didnt deserve to be discarded after that flop its like Babs and MGW should have gotten Michael France and Bruce Firstein together to make Brosnans last film...but i do love Everything or Nothing but its a shame that it would never be re-released in HD :'(
  • myworldisenoughmyworldisenough
    edited November 2012 Posts: 1,143
    002 wrote:
    JamesBond wrote:
    Look how they worked with FYEO after MR received negative reviews. They didn't reboot the series, they behaved like professionals, but that Babs ruined the entire Bond material, still trying to copy that scumbag Jason Bourne.

    yeah i agree i mean after A View to a Kill did they reboot Bond? no they carried on with Timothy Dalton..sure DAD was terrible but Brosnan didnt deserve to be discarded after that flop its like Babs and MGW should have gotten Michael France and Bruce Firstein together to make Brosnans last film...but i do love Everything or Nothing but its a shame that it would never be re-released in HD :'(

    That's a fair point. Maybe there is less fear and patience these days from the powers that be. I however prefer Craig to Brosnan so I think the producers saw the opportunity for a change and got the man they really wanted. I think the right decision was made.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    JamesBond wrote:
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    No on Milla Jovovich but, other wise great.

    Now, I'd either have liked to see Everything or Nothing the film, or an original story.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited November 2012 Posts: 4,537
    Everything or Nothing documentry i like to see there release on the new QOS DVD/BD
    I only watch the first 4 minutes of it on youtube to see or it be with feeling of those inside documentry's. I whant see it complete on that new QOS release with Dutch subtitels. The Fleming family and Pierce Brosnan part iam moost curious too.
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
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    myworldisenough wrote:
    I think Brosnan departed at the right time. I think he was a victim of DAD, he and the franchise were out of favour with the general mood of movie goers who like me wanted a fresh start.

    Yes indeed the BO does not lie, nobody did see DAD it was a financial failure, each Brosnan movie made less money??????

    You wanted a fresh start. do not blame any general audience as us 007 fans are not a general audience. ;)

  • JamesBondJamesBond
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    002 wrote:
    JamesBond wrote:
    Look how they worked with FYEO after MR received negative reviews. They didn't reboot the series, they behaved like professionals, but that Babs ruined the entire Bond material, still trying to copy that scumbag Jason Bourne.

    yeah i agree i mean after A View to a Kill did they reboot Bond? no they carried on with Timothy Dalton..sure DAD was terrible but Brosnan didnt deserve to be discarded after that flop its like Babs and MGW should have gotten Michael France and Bruce Firstein together to make Brosnans last film...but i do love Everything or Nothing but its a shame that it would never be re-released in HD :'(

    We exactly share the same idea, @002. Awesome respond. Well, I agree that EON shoud have been re-released on PC as well, and in HD. And Brosnan should have made at least one more Bond film. The perfect screenwriters are Michael France and Bruce Feirstein (discounting the awesome writers Danny Bilson and Paul De Meo, who brought us AUF and NF, besides EON was based on their idea), with the film to be directed by either Martin Campbell or Roger Spottiswoode.
  • Goldeneye95Goldeneye95
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    Easily Everything or Nothing would have been the best final Bond film for Pierce Bronsan..
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited December 2012 Posts: 12,837
    I still think Everything Or Nothing is miles too OTT. Fun to play as a game, but if it was a film I think people on sites like this would hate it almost as much as Die Another Day.

    It features two tank chases. The invisible car is back. In the finale the villian (in a wierd body armour suit), has a secret base hidden under the Kremlin and (this part might be my bad memory playing tricks on me, I'm not 100 percent sure) a statue of himself put into Red Square. Nightfire has a finale in space and most of the game is less OTT than this.

    And who would play Jaws? Because Richard Kiel can't get around without a mobility scooter and I don't think they could replace him without pissing off lots of fans.

    I think they could cherry pick things from the game, like the title, the free fall sequence, Willam Dafoe, absieling down the burning building, etc. But most of it would have to be changed or scrapped altogether. The game as it is wouldn't work as a film.
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