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4) No more Aston Martin, but Lotus or Bentley
3) A blonde BG, with some unexpected skills (à la Kara Milovy) who survives in Bond's arms at the end.
2) A gunbarrel at the start
1) More adventurous plot with luxurious locations (I heard quite long ago about that rumour of Great Wall of China, and it seemed great)
That's true, nobody complained here about not having a blonde one but some friends of mine did, and I agree with them.
I meant a BG (blonde, to change the great but usual brunettes of Craig) that has surprising skills and who finishes in Bond's arms at the end. There is my point of view underlined.
Better if she's blonde. For a change.
For instance one of the last scene of 'Skyfall':
I all found it a bit....too forced. Only 'M' actually sounded 'suave' and spontaneous. I would have changed certain lines. To start with, Eve introducing herself as Moneypenny could have been done with a tiny bit more humour. A bit like this:
More lines, better lines if you ask me. And we see 007 become a bit more spontaneous towards the end. It also whipes out some criticism people had with the fact that Bond and Eve never have been introduced to each other.
I hope we get a bit more of this in Bond 24. Don't get me wrong. I still LOVED the scenes between Silva and Bond. But Bond himself....could have been a bit more funnier. For me, the portrayal of 007 was still very much like the quiet cold-hearted bastard we got to know in 'Casino Royale' and 'Quantum Of Solace'.
That's why I wrote down an alternative ;-).
But obviously we agree on this. Let's hope John Logan brings a bit more spontanity into the scripts. A bit more zest. And perhaps some actors could improvise a bit as well?
1. 'Time to soak up the cultures of escapist locations, smarter use of it' - use more ACTUAL LOCATIONS, EON should have the money for it now after SF. "Put the money on the screen" as Cubby Broccoli would say
2. More clever, less brutal action - use OHMSS as a template. SF actual got this right in a lot of places, but more of it in the next film please. The Obanno fight is too brutal for my tastes
3. 'Better screenplay/more effective one-liners for Bond' - tighten up the story and review the script for plot-holes. Bringforth a balance of believable and fantastical
4. 'A straightforward grand escapist Bond adventure' - let Bond "play" a little.
5. Bring back the sophistication of the character: knowledge of food, drink, the natural world, etc. Give the film a "swankier" vibe like the casino scenes in the Connery films.
I agree on the Gunbarrel, but it's not a deal breaker for me. I have a 'feeling' they will bring it back anyways, the way they left off SF.
Good list there. Although, I don't want Bond in China at all. Don't need the film bogged down with their censorship crap. Add to that, more intense and brutal fight scenes ala CR and QoS aaaaaand lastly a decent love scene. I'm amazed that there are better love scenes, tastefully done but full of intensity on tv than in the majority of the films in the Bond series. Just watched the latest episode of scandal and that love scene between Olivia and the president is something the Bond movies, especially in the Craig era could do with.
Heresy!!
I'll grant you the fist fights in OHMSS were great and far superior to what we got in SF but these fist fights need to emphasise the danger of the situation, Bond's prowess as believable 00 agent who has to either kill or be killed. Bond shouldn't be living in cartoonland anymore, especially when other lesser action heroes on both the big and small screen are doing credible jobs in the same department. Violence is critical in a Bond movie and it must be conveyed effectively and in an entertaining way in all of its bleak and brutal glory.
That is true, the gritty fights were something unique to Craig's films. However 2 things: Craig is an older Bond in SF, does it make sense to still have him scrapping and getting all bloodied up? Second, if we are going for violence but still maintain the entertainment factor, I think the brutality of it all needs to be scaled back a bit. Bond and Obanno really looked like they were fighting to the death, it was scary. But it fit the very serious tone of the film and the scene that follows - that the film played out more like an action-drama. I want a (slightly) more escapist film in Bond24, where scene-by-scene, it is still believable. Films like DN, FRWL and OHMSS were realistic enough but still in the realm of the fantastical - there was a nice balance there. For me, the best Bond films get this right. Films like CR and LTK skew just a little too far on the side of gritty realism.
Nah, the fight scenes aren't the problem. It's the screenplay that is not even a problem, but that could use some smoothening the way I mentioned in my example above. Give the actors MORE lines, so the actors can actually improvise and be spontaneous. It makes certain scenes look and feel more naturally and realistic, certainly not strained and too forced.
This is something I hope to see back in Bond 24. And I'm not afraid that with these kind of changes we suddenly make Bond cheesy and camp the Die Another Day-way. Just find the nuance.
I'm not the biggest fan of the lines from that last bit with Bond and Moneypenny either, but after reading the babove I like it fine the way it is. That dialogue above drags on too long, is badly out of character for Bond, and just doesn't feel right.
I actually quite liked that bit. It tells us a lot about how Bond feels about his childhood and the home he grew up in.
The only lines that felt forced to me were the lines with Bond and Moneypenny in the MI6 bunker, and then the "bet in all on red" and "circle of life" lines. They should have cut one of the latter lines entirely, because having both sets coming so soon after each other just doesn't feel right.
I think you need to visualize how Daniel Craig would work with such lines. I also think it's a better explanation of why Eve is called Moneypenny. I always thought it was a nickname, especially after watching 'Casino Royale' ("Every penny of it."). And now there's really a person whose last name is......Moneypenny? I think that's silly...
You also have to remember, it's the film's epilogue. The golden rule of screenwriting is once the film's climax has been reached, you need to get to the end as swiftly as possible. That's why the Bond/Moneypenny scene is short and sweet.
I thought it was short but played like banter a bit and I have no problem with the scene, since it is at the end.
I'm in agreement here. Age doesn't really come into it. A trained/skilled agent especially one that is still on active duty doesn't let age hinder performance. There are plenty of examples of characters in their 40s and older still scrapping it up and Cruise, Sutherland and Neeson spring to mind instantly. Hand to hand combat needs to be handled credibly and as much as many people may dislike this but I think the fight choreographers for the Bourne movies were fantastic, especially for the first 3 movies. I'd even go as far as to say that Bourne Legacy had better fist fights than SF did. Bond's fights can be brutal and vicious but for those wanting something less messy then an emphasis on precision needs to be applied to the combat and that's where the fight choreographers really shone in the Bourne movies. Seeing Damon taking dudes out swiftly, expertly, I'd love for Bond to have that style in his fighting repertoire. However, I'll concede that before CR came along and it's even debatable now, that OHMSS has some if the best fifth scenes in the series, most notably the hotel room fight with Draco's henchman.
Luckily, some of the best Bond films played with that nonsense rule if you ask me. I loved the ending of TMWTGG and OHMSS.
Still, I think it's an 'element Bond 24 should have to tackle EVERY bit of criticism that surrounded 'SKYFALL''. And if you like it or not......this was a point of criticism.
Now, my suggestion to actually bring back a proper gunbarrel at the start is based on this logo:
And the logo used for Adele's single cover:
And yes, fans, the above logo's are all based on Maurice Binder's original gunbarrel design he made by looking inside a gun. Actually, back in 2012 it made me think that the actual gunbarrel would look very Binder-esque. Alas, the Skyfall-gunbarrel looked like this:
Then the Quantum Of Solace-gunbarrel had a differentb design. This one:
And on top of that, the Casino Royale-gunbarrel looked like this!:
Fans, I think it's obvious. The Daniel Craig-era suffers from a huge 'Gunbarrel-Identity-Crisis' :-P!! For me, I'd like to see.....
● this gunbarrel,
● at the very start,
● with Monty Norman's gunbarrel-theme,
● re-composed by Thomas Newman: