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100% Agreed with both of you. An underrated gem of a Bond film.
I don't think I'd describe her as 'over the top,' I think her behaviour in that moment is totally in keeping with her character. She's always been a bit reckless and entitled throughout the film. She just so happens to be relishing the moment that little bit more as she's wants to Bond to know how foolish he was to fall for her act. She played him and she really wanted him to know.
I agree that the torture chair is a terrific scene, mainly as Bond is genuinely vulnerable and in pain. She has the upper hand. It's a bit of a Bond cliche, but doesn't feel like it at all. It feels fresh and not like a rehash.
It's interesting that the team decided to have Bond kill Elektra. The easiest decision would have been for her to escape and get caught after the action in the finale. The fact that they said 'no', we are going to have a confrontation between her and Bond where he is forced to make a decision is a big deal.
Whilst many may disagree with the outcome, Eon put themselves in the position where they forced their hero make a decision. Then - rather interestingly - they decided to have Bond make the more aggressive decision. It's quite a provocative and conversation-starting choice....this type of stuff is overlooked about TWINE and people focus too much on the dumb 'Christmas comes twice a year' crap. Though the film does itself no favours in that regard
Totally agree. There's some sorta psychological depth to this film. But primarily it's terrific entertainment.
I also watched The Dark Knight Rises a few weeks back. A movie that I really love despite its polarising response. But it always seemed to me that Nolan was basically remaking TWINE with that film....
TDKR is basically a Bond movie in disguise.
Also, love the whole casino scene which feels like its indebted to the mood and atmosphere of Hitchcock.
the script can be a little corny at time, but I dig Renard's dialogue. Especially, 'A man tires of being executed.' It's a bit on the nose, I suppose, but I like it; it's pulpy. I also think it's interesting that M is really the person who created Elektra opposed to Renard. It's her fault that she turned out this way; hence why Elektra repays her the favour of leaving her kidnapped. This film is so very underrated.
Submarine finale is a bit of overkill though.
I definitely blame the director, which is why I'm not so harsh on Denise Richards because nobody was really directed well. Elektra's maniacal ranting makes her less interesting and more cartoonish. "EEET EEZ MY OIL! MINE!"
The first clip Bond watches is a new anchor announcing that Elektra was rescued, so I think that makes it pretty clear that what footage Bond is seeing of her is when she was just rescued.
Agreed. GE and TWINE seem like they're trying too hard in including these moments to and don't play to strengths and instead try stretching for things they can't possibly reach convincingly. It's why I find one overrated and the other awful and TND and DAD actually enjoyable overall experiences (with many reservations on DAD).
Just watched TWINE, I thought this was from a police interview immediately after she was 'rescued'.
TWINE had such potential - I just think that the execution (along with too much corniness) is where it's lacking. Brosnan for me just doesn't cut it in this film - it's like it's beyond him to reach the dramatic depths that they were after - maybe it's the fault of direction. I feel like Brosnan is an actor who needs a director to get his performances out of him. Across his films I find his acting bordering on awful to brilliant, there's little in between. Polanski's Ghost and The Tailor of Panama show what he can do. But then Apted is known for getting good dramatic performances ...
On the plus side, Sophie Marceau is excellent. She'd have made a good girlfriend for Zorin. Denise Richards isn't that bad; no better than before, but she's great to look at, especially in the caviar factory scene, and miles better than Tanya Roberts. At least she isn't screaming "James!" every couple minutes and her technical lines are convincing. The Mi6 castle is a great setting.
Other than that, this film just drags. The boat chase, which seemed like a highlight before, went on and on (why the hell didn't Bond just torpedo her boat in the open water much earlier?) and the detours through restaurants just seem excessive and stupid.
So does the caviar factory sequence, just going on and on. I've named the ski sequence one of the worst action sequences in any Bond film and it holds up in that way, especially noticed how many times the parahawk guys have clear shots at Bond with their machine guns and still can't hit him.
There were so many instances also of people getting into or off of boats, helicopters, cars, planes, subs, etc. It was like watching a webcam at a travel agency. I also had to feel for Brosnan as he gets stuck with so many awful lines like "Davidoff caught a bullet instead of a plane" or something like that.
Same with the boat chase, which probably has the most nonsensical kick off with Cigar Girl shooting at Bond for no in-universe reason.
Agree. Attempts to assassinate Bond and then ends up killing herself when she could've easily killed Bond.