The name's 25. Bond 25, or rather, it's NTTD.

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  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Look familiar ?

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyrxo-cY4Rd-ccxoT0YRfWHRGrra8kl1wYndqJXGazwVVsT_jC

    ;)) Yes. The Love Bond.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Total guess but I'm assuming NO TIME TO DIE was inspired by a line of plot dialogue.

    Bond villain Sigmund Shatterhand (actually the son of Blofeld in disguise!) threatens Bond with a gun or death ray or badly made ham sandwich, and says

    "You cannot stop me, Mr Bond. The missiles are launched. The countdown has begun to the end of the human race. Look at the clock. It is the time of death!"

    "You forget one thing, Shatterhand.... there's no time to die."

    "Why do you mention that?"

    "Well... it's the name of the film so I thought I should mention it."


    ;))

    So what are we, some kind of No time to die?
  • Posts: 4,044
    echo wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    When Newman delivered his two Bond scores, people were screaming how so not "classical Bond" they sounded. They wanted Arnold back for "vintage Bond".

    He delivered two scores? ;)

    They should have used him again. I mean he’s finished it already. He’s got Bond 26 done too.
  • Posts: 19,339
    vzok wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    When Newman delivered his two Bond scores, people were screaming how so not "classical Bond" they sounded. They wanted Arnold back for "vintage Bond".

    He delivered two scores? ;)

    They should have used him again. I mean he’s finished it already. He’s got Bond 26 done too.

    Hahaha exactly,the most economical and money saving composer in history,methinks.
  • edited August 2019 Posts: 4,409
    Quick question:

    Is the title No Time To Die or No Time to Time? Wikipedia and IMDB uses the latter - and I assume they get their information directly from Eon/Universal

    Let's get the grammar correct.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited August 2019 Posts: 4,515
    Moneypenny: I am not wasted my time with death, James.
    Bond: No Time To Die

    Villian: In No Time you will die
    Bond: No Time To Die

    Bond: I have no time to die sir..
    M: Alright..

    Who is James Bond ?
    Always on time to die..
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,134
    Maybe it's just me, but the font for The Love Boat and No Time To Die is not an issue.
    The title and font are not the really important things for me. Certainly not the font of the title.
    The title is fine as far as Bond titles go.
    Story, character, plot, pace, cinematography, score and overall enjoyment factor are much more important to me, as a Bond fan.
  • Posts: 618
    Quick question:

    Is the title No Time To Die or No Time to Time? Wikipedia and IMDB uses the latter - and I assume they get their information directly from Eon/Universal

    Let's get the grammar correct.

    In the USA, at least, words such as “to”, “from”, “the” (as well as “a”) are not capitalized in book and film titles unless they are at the very beginning of said title. Examples:

    A View to a Kill
    The Creature from the Black Lagoon
    License to Kill

  • Posts: 618
    “With” is capitalized, however, as is “are”...

    The Man With the Golden Gun
    Diamonds Are Forever
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,291
    No Time to Die = Weak Tea.
  • Posts: 4,044
    CraterGuns wrote: »
    “With” is capitalized, however, as is “are”...

    The Man With the Golden Gun
    Diamonds Are Forever

    Why is “with” capitalised and “the” isn’t?
  • Posts: 12,466
    The “Are” capitalization for DAF makes sense, but why the “With” for TMWTGG?
  • Posts: 4,409
    I’m just not digging the font at all....

    Prefer my own:
    uzgn7uF_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    I’m just not digging the font at all....

    Prefer my own:
    uzgn7uF_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

    That looks quite neat! B-)
  • Posts: 6,709
    I’m just not digging the font at all....

    Prefer my own:
    uzgn7uF_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

    I prefer their font. Its retro and different. I'm sick of that 007 game. It's like they have to do it, like if it was a new canonical thing. I really prefer the thing they did this time around. Kudos to EON for choosing that designer and his ideia.
  • edited August 2019 Posts: 618
    vzok wrote: »
    CraterGuns wrote: »
    “With” is capitalized, however, as is “are”...

    The Man With the Golden Gun
    Diamonds Are Forever

    Why is “with” capitalised and “the” isn’t?
    I have no earthly idea why "from" and "the" are not capitalized, but "with" is... That's just the way it's done here in the States!

    (Sort of like the Brits pronouncing "lieutenant" with an imaginary, completely unnecessary "F" in it...)

    The Italians, by the way, only capitalize the first letter in book and film titles -- nothing else (unless it is the name of a person or place).



  • RyanRyan Canada
    Posts: 692
    The 007 thing was cool for Casino Royale but truthfully I always hated the way they had to place the QOS logo to make it fit. It's not bad, but all the same it shouldn't be some obligatory thing.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited August 2019 Posts: 40,968
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    So the BOND 25/No Time To Die title discussion should end here over 7 months before the release of the film proper. That's odd to me.

    It won't.

    So ... I don't mind the thread staying open, but I'm surprised. As Bond 25? What else is there to say? The title is chosen. Why would people keep talking about it? I mean, what can people discuss about it? Other than like it, hate it, I guess. Carry on, but I just don't get it. The thread seems made for the next film, any film we don't have a title to yet.

    Because this title was just announced and we've not even seen a trailer for the film yet - there's no conversation to be had regarding a title for Bond26 that'll be anything but spammy and full of the exact same discussion that's been had here for the last 50-75 pages. It'll be tweaked eventually, but not for a while.
  • edited August 2019 Posts: 5,767
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Look familiar ?

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyrxo-cY4Rd-ccxoT0YRfWHRGrra8kl1wYndqJXGazwVVsT_jC
    Isn´t that the ending shot from TSHLM :-)?




    What´s up with those capitals and small letters? Just write it as the title announcement does, all capitals :-).
  • Posts: 19,339
    boldfinger wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Look familiar ?

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyrxo-cY4Rd-ccxoT0YRfWHRGrra8kl1wYndqJXGazwVVsT_jC
    Isn´t that the ending shot from TSHLM :-)?




    What´s up with those capitals and small letters? Just write it as the title announcement does, all capitals :-).

    I know...so naff isn't it.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    CraterGuns wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    CraterGuns wrote: »
    “With” is capitalized, however, as is “are”...

    The Man With the Golden Gun
    Diamonds Are Forever

    Why is “with” capitalised and “the” isn’t?


    The Italians, by the way, only capitalize the first letter in book and film titles -- nothing else (unless it is the name of a person or place).



    That is how it is here in Scandinavia as well.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Univex wrote: »
    I’m just not digging the font at all....

    Prefer my own:
    uzgn7uF_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

    I prefer their font. Its retro and different. I'm sick of that 007 game. It's like they have to do it, like if it was a new canonical thing. I really prefer the thing they did this time around. Kudos to EON for choosing that designer and his ideia.

    Me too. I’m also sick of those kind of “Nolan” font without any identity.
  • Posts: 6,709
    matt_u wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    I’m just not digging the font at all....

    Prefer my own:
    uzgn7uF_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

    I prefer their font. Its retro and different. I'm sick of that 007 game. It's like they have to do it, like if it was a new canonical thing. I really prefer the thing they did this time around. Kudos to EON for choosing that designer and his ideia.

    Me too. I’m also sick of those kind of “Nolan” font without any identity.

    Yes, absolutely! I’d even like it if they added an element to the font, like they did in FRWL and OP. One with the soviet symbol and the other with the octopus’s arms. Those were the days, right? Identity was not a bad word back then ;)
  • Posts: 2,917
    boldfinger wrote: »
    .Or it will 'one in the face' for all those insisting a title has to be Fleming ;-).

    No one has ever insisted the title of a Bond film had to be taken from a phrase used by Fleming in a letter that he had never even intended as a title. If that was the case, Die Another Die could have been justifiably titled Sucks to You or My Stupid Book.

    And no one has ever argued that Fleming's actual titles should be indiscriminately used or shoved in. I have previously argued that using Quantum of Solace for Craig's second film was a mistake, especially because the film didn't even bother explaining the title, which Fleming did.
  • Posts: 11,425
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Of all the titles Eon must have had, they went with 'die'! Look at all the titles suggested on this thread, they're not all "blah blah blah DIE!" There's a lot of variety.

    To go with die when it's been done three times before.... it really is astonishing. But Eon moved the gun barrel and Craig's first was in a toilet so perhaps this title is just "more of the same wacky stuff" from Eon. I don't mean to be ultra-critical but an unoriginal title is an unoriginal title. Fan that I am, I have to be honest in my opinion.


    Campbell had a thing about toilets. He introduced Brosnan in one as well. Kind of odd.

    Doesn't really stand up to Sean and Tim's classic intros.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/times2/the-names-no-time-to-die-but-is-it-good-enough-for-a-james-bond-film-ck2krcvm0
  • Posts: 4,409
    Interesting to note that IMDB have renamed the 'No Time to Die' (1958) to 'Tank Force' on their website:
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052271/?ref_=tttr_tr_tt

    Is this Eon's attempt to rewrite history - or a decision from IMDB?

    Personally, the chief reason the title has won me over slightly is the connection to this movie.

    nr006870-47_1.jpg

    Any film nerds who can explain the history of the 1958 film?
  • edited August 2019 Posts: 16,162
    Interesting to note that IMDB have renamed the 'No Time to Die' (1958) to 'Tank Force' on their website:
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052271/?ref_=tttr_tr_tt

    Is this Eon's attempt to rewrite history - or a decision from IMDB?

    Personally, the chief reason the title has won me over slightly is the connection to this movie.

    nr006870-47_1.jpg

    Any film nerds who can explain the history of the 1958 film?

    I really want to see it now. The Cubby Warwick films I have seen are pretty damn cool.

    FIRE DOWN BELOW is great. Robert Mitchum and Jack Lemmon fight for the affections of Rita Hayworth in the Caribbean.

    THE RED BERET (a.k.a PARATROOPER) with Alan Ladd is also a lot of fun.

    I'll bet NO TIME TO DIE (1958) with Victor Mature is also right up my alley.
  • edited August 2019 Posts: 2,917
    Interesting to note that IMDB have renamed the 'No Time to Die' (1958) to 'Tank Force' on their website...Is this Eon's attempt to rewrite history - or a decision from IMDB?

    No Time to Die was released as Tank Squad in the United States. Since the IMDB is an American website it's gone with the American release title.
    Personally, the chief reason the title has won me over slightly is the connection to this movie.

    I think it sets a bad precedent. I would prefer Bond titles not to be sloppy seconds, especially since No Time to Die has already been used as the title of two movies and a Columbo episode--that shows how generic it is. And if they're going to start naming Bond films after non-Bondian Broccoli/Young/Maibaum productions, will Bond 26 be called Zarak?
  • edited August 2019 Posts: 12,837
    To be fair, as much as I don't like the title, I prefer it to any of the unused Flemings. The Hilderbrand Rarity, 007 in New York (I bet Fleming himself wouldn't ever want that used for a film either, wasn't the "story" a couple of paragraphs for a magazine? Probably not something he put much thought into) and Property of a Lady are all pretty poor titles imo. Risico could work, but yeah, I'd much rather an original title than a Fleming one for the sake of it. They've used all his good ones. It was bad enough that we got QoS (and that they bottled it by naming the organisation Quantum, muddying the meaning of it).

    A title I've always liked that might be controversial is James Bond of the Secret Service. It was the original title of the Fleming/Mcclory script that eventually became TB, and I think Mcclory and Connery used the name again for their scrapped 70s TB remake. I know, probably sacrilige to have James Bond right there in the title. But I think it has a nice retro, pulpy feeling about it and could work for the first film of a new actor.
  • Posts: 2,917
    They've used all his good ones imo. It was bad enough that we got QoS (and that they bottled it by naming the organisation Quantum, muddying the meaning of it).

    There are still plenty of good chapter titles left, though agree about Quantum. I don't mind if they decide to use a good original title instead, but that's not what we got.

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