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But it wasn't the same DB5 though. In CR it was left hand drive and in SF it was right hand drive. There's no continuity behind it. It was just paying homage to the 50th Anniversary.
Exactly. People are taking continuity in Bond all too seriously. There's basically no continuity in Bond. And if there are ocassional contiunity twists theye'r pretty much fucked up and don't make sense anyway.
The DB5 in Skyfall could just as well have been a model from the Goldfinger mission MI6 had kept in storage since then. If you have to force logic and continuity into it, that explanation makes as much sense as anything else...
They attempted to clearly delineate Craig Bond from the previous 20 with CR and QoS. Mendes screwed that, which is fine, but it's a shame it was done in the clunky manner we got. I think as soon as people start servicing fan wankery it's a slippery slope.
The DB5 in SF means something else to me: old gadgets can be reused.
What I didn't really like was how it took you out of the film - sort of breaking the fourth wall. It's been done a few times before in Bond and I don't particularly like it. Still, hardly the worst thing about a generally very average movie.
What really bothered me though was the total lack of originality. Mendes seemed to think he'd come up with some cracking novel gimmick by bringing back the DB5. Doesn't he know it's now been in 4 of the last 7 movies. Give it a rest!
If he'd wanted to reference an old car, he should have chosen something less obvious and a bit cooler, like the beautiful Toyota in YOLT. But generally speaking I prefer fresh ideas and something new in each film to make it stand out. A cool new car is part of the Bond tradition.
Even that is very odd, though and to me, not an interesting thing to consider. Given that CR and QOS went out of their way to ground the character somewhat, I just find your line of reasoning at odds still. Seriously, what person on earth would actively have gadgets fitted to their personal car? I think it's safe to say this is just a case of fan service and a wholly self indulgent act on the part of Mendes. I honestly believe SF would have felt like a more cohesive entry had they not, as @Getafix pointed out, 'taken you out of the film' with this little dalliance.
Well, personally I felt the gadgets were best left alone or were at least the product of a little ingenuity/originality. To that end, if gadgets were so necessary I'd much rather have seen something new. I really, really hope their aren't any of these overt nods in B24. I think it's something really easy to dismiss as being 'a bit of fun', but I truly believe that down the kind we'll look back and wish their were less homages and more originality.
It's simple really, Given Bond's talent for...damaging expensive DBS's, MI6 most likely outfitted his DB5 with gadgets and played it safe. ;)
I would say sometime in between QOS and SF. Plus Bond met Q, Q said he was his "new" Quartermaster. So Bond might have known someone else as Q prior to Skyfall.
And not to mention there was the quiet man from Casino Royale who installed the microchip tracking device in Bond's arm. Perhaps Craig's first Q?
In the field, you mean? I don't think I would like that. If this new Q hates flying, I can't imagine seeing him run around with bullets soaring past his head. It would turn into a babysitter film because Q would be crying the entire time.
True but You never know, could prove for an interesting movie. :)
It's already been done (not that they can't do it again) - why not just watch LTK? Some of the best Q scenes in the series. Dentonite any one?
It definitely makes more sense for Bond to meet up with Q out in the field than M.
During the Dench era, it was clear M was suffering senile dementia - she was always wandering off, couldn't remember what or where her workplace was and ended up in SF wandering around an empty old house. Really hoping Fiennes knows what a desk is and what to do with one.
I think they escalated the gadgets so much prior to CR, I think if there are to be any, as it became a by product of the franchise (in no way essential), I would rather have them in small quantities and I would love to see old ones (with sometimes the necessary modernization) used in new ways. I find the briefcase from FRWL far more exciting than say a lazer watch.
How I wish they'd do this. But with Mendes having cast all his mates he will feel obliged to use them a lot throughout.
Agreed, and Ralph Fiennes is such a big name with film that I don't see him merely appearing for a few short minutes. Sad, isn't it?
That's the problem. I really believe that there should at least be some reference to when these gadgets were fitted. As I said, all the other homages were done well but this one was nothing more than a page out of DAD. Just the car would have been enough. What they did was entirely unnecessary. If they were insistent, then as I said, some kind of reference should have been made. It's just bad film making. A better script would have included some kind of reference at least. Bond has a love of classic cars and in the 50's books the literary Bond drove a 1930's Bentley so it makes sense to have the Aston but without the cheesy gadgets which is what Skyfall's two predecessors were all about (with the exception of subtle realistic gadgets which I can accept) - a gritty, Bond who predominantly relies on his skill and stamina to get out of situations as in the books.
Yes, that's something I certainly don't like in terms of where these films are heading, what with Mendes at the reins. I love Fiennes and love having him as M but they should all remain behind their bl**dy desks where they belong!