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2) If the release date gets changed, there will be a press release. But I suspect it may not go into detail about the rewrite. It will probably say something to the effect "we want to make it the best movie we can and additional time is needed." The most detail would be if they use the occasion of that press release to mention P&W as writers. Just a prediction. Your mileage may vary.
I would concur. As noted before, Casino Royale started filming in February 2006 and made a fall release date. If December is indeed the start date for Bond 24, it would seem the October/November 2015 date can be met.
If the start date is being delayed, perhaps there are additional factors we don't know about.
What bugs me about EON is after the success of Skyfall they want to dive right into some 2 part story arc which Mendes probably passed on since the material was not up to his standards. Logan's comments earlier also do not sit well with me either.
As for Purvis & Wade, they can be hit or miss. With a decent director they do alright.
Something else is going on to cause a delay in filming for two months. I am willing to bet they started from scratch last summer when Mendes came back. And now they are doing further revisions.
Craig may grow tired of all this and bow out after this one. I hope not. They need to get Bond 25 out in two years.
We shall see what happens.
Also, Craig is contracted for two more Bond films, B24 and B25.
Fans here have varied opinions about it. With a good portion of the SF-team returning, some are worried it'll be another SF, while some are happy that we'll get another SF.
Definitely. I've been on the "Craig needs his OTT movie" train for a while. Hopefully Logan will balance out their worse tendencies, and all will be well.
Never thought about that. I suppose that's a blessing in disguise, as I agree with your happiness.
I love Skyfall and am very glad we have it exactly as it is; I think it completes the story of Bond's beginnings and maturing as an agent. Next I do want Bond 24 to be different and more fun, not filled with angst. So yes, I agree hopefully this will be balanced and we can get a great Bond film.
First they laugh at you...
and then they cry
I pardon you (but yes, I'm mocking you too actually)
I think the fact that Logan was speaking very freely during his interview is now accepted by all, isn't it ? And well, was it so ridiculous to conclude he was free then ?
Now about the rumored new screenwriters :
Ok, now imagine you're fired because the producers who pay you decide to rent a big star instead of you : Would you say publicly "We would have loved to continue but we were fired" ? Would you say "This is crazy, we delivered a billion dollar Bond and they fire us, we'll sue them !" ?
So, P&W's disinterest could be far less strong than Logan's disinterest after all.. No one knows for sure.
It's up to you to see if P&W were really speaking freely when they gave that speeches with Barbara Broccoli next to them (I think at least one of these "no more ideas" speech was done with the producer next to them, who had already hired Logan).
I think it was obvious Logan was speaking freely (he talked about loosing interest in Bond out of the blue, the questions had nothing to do with Bond), I'm not so sure about P&W. It could have been diplomatic doublespeak, so that everyone in the business understand, but without saying anything too harsh in order not to spoil any chances in the future. It turns out it may have been a very good bet to stay diplomatic !
And about the fact they change the script, you can see it in a good way : it's better to say "the script sucks" and rewrites it, than to say "the script sucked" when the DVD is out :)
Now if I was P&W, I would put an exploding pen at the very beginning of the PTS of Bond 24. In your face, John, we're back :)
I don't have any idea what you're seeming so victorious about. Why is it so hard to believe that other writers were sent to look at and change a script? It doesn't have to imply that there's some big writers' war between two parties fighting for supremacy and a voice in a script. Scripts can have many, many hands on them, especially Bond scripts which are never truly one-man projects with just one writer penning the thing. Crafting these kinds of stories usually have many cooks in the kitchen, so to speak.
Just because someone was asked to look over the script and add elements to it doesn't make it a bad script at all. Clearly the Logan draft is missing something that the producers or Mendes want added. It could be action, it could be laughs, who knows. But to assume it's a complete failure in need of a near-complete rewrite is a bit drastic and naive if you ask me.
It seems that when Q plugged that computer on MI6's new network and some people decided what followed was pure airtight logic, some brains entered in loop mode ;)
I think you will never have any other public story from the producers other than a story about Logan's script being super great, but hiring P&W was a way to make it super super great, and that adding a few months was a way to make it super super super great, and so on. And then you'll think you were right all way long...
Do you think Logan is still under contract with EON ? Really ? Do you think he'll pen Bond 25 ?
You're young and never worked in the movie industry (I did a bit, in the VFX), I'm not sure you've even worked anywhere, you have the right to be a bit arrogant, I don't blame you. Others that are older here, have less excuses...
Yes, changing the subject and unrightfully questioning the intelligence of others is definitely the best way to proceed with this discussion. Since we're on the topic anyway, being such a big fan of Goldfinger must mean that you can easily recognize when the brains of others are in loop after yours has been going around in circles for decades. Before picking on other (better) Bond films for so-called illogical moments, don't so clearly make yourself a known fan of one of the biggest offenders of these lapses in logic.
I'd never call Goldfinger an airtight logic script. No one would I think :) But we're older and wiser :)
Well, at least you are aware of your own hypocrisy. Acceptance is the hardest step of most therapy sessions, so well done.
Because you seem to have jumped off a high cliff (or high horse) heading straight into a major ocean of murky conclusions, while rather trying to belittle, mock, or demean other people on your way down.
And with that, I would like to see what the script for B24 is pre-P&W and post-P&W.
So after the film is out, we may be able to get copies of early drafts of the screenplay to read, Creasy. Maybe. It would be interesting.
+1.
But Mendes still has the final saying, though? Remember he allegedly cut out a couple of big action sequences from the SF, including the Indiana Jones homage scene.
Several screenwriters, people brought in to "pump it up" or rewrite stuff always worries me. It's like having several chefs prepare your meal.
Even when it is an complex proccess, as someone pointed out, I still don't see, how a few rewrites can make such a delay. I believe, this might be just, what they give us and THAT worries me.
I hope, I am wrong though...
BTW @ Colonel - thanks for your answer.
Maibaum must be rolling in his grave.