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Cubby Broccoli should get a lot of the "credit"/"blame" for the storyline in those movies as well. As far as I remember the volcano layer was his idea, and so was the thought of Bond in Space. As the sole producer on Spy i reckon he had great influence on that story too.
Bond plots in general are a collective effort after all, and especially in those days. I think Gilbert was selected to direct those movies because they suited his style, but I doubt he had a lot of influence on the actual story.
Craig only has two films left and i wouldnt waste them on Quantum. CR & QOS are enough for me.
Yes but they're not "his" movies are they. Young, Hamilton, Hunt etc should get all the credit for the good movies if at the you willing to apportion blame on a director for the bad ones.
Yes, absolutely. And I do think sometimes the franchise lots its way, at least to a degree. But in the end, a movie is the work and responsibility of the director. This is why I have such deep admiration for Terence Young.
Yes, true. See above. In the end, the movie is the "child" of the director, even though it is a collective work.
I agree, the director is at the helm and takes the most blame/credit. A script is darn important, though. Fine actors can lift a tepid script. All are important.
It's certainly up there with the best: the GF laser scene, Bond and Fiona in bed in TB, Tracy and Blofeld before the dawn attack in OHMSS (my personal favorite), and, yes, Silva's introduction in SF.
I supposed Quantum could have got the list from Silva. What if Quantum indeed was somehow watching over Silva's shoulders. Logan writing Skyfall with P&W, and Logan also writing Bond 24 and with P&W brought back, wouldn't it be possible they included Quantum. It wouldn't take anything away from Skyfall's status as an independent story. What does everyone think?
Oh, and welcome back to our two champs. Don't cockup this, pals.
The "NOC" (more like "knockoff") list was one of the weakest elements of SF.
I think Mendes stated that thematic elements would be carried over from SF--aging, etc. Personally, I found it interesting to see Bond off his game in the first third of the film. And I'm hoping that they do something with Mallory's backstory, not as the focus as in SF, but it feels like a setup for...something.
I always thought they'd have the list, they just didn't know who Silva sent it to, if he sent it. I need to rewatch it.
I think the new M deserves his own thread.
I think its Mary Goodnight in the novels (far better character than she was in MWTGG).
Loelia Ponsonby.
As for the question - I can only assume MP became too established.
That's her! Bring in Loelia!
Does anybody else remember the time I brought this up? The thread nearly closed. But anyways, I'm all for this. There is major girl role for a British actress for B24 supposedly.
I vaguely remember. If they hadn't brought MP back, she'd have been a great addition and point of difference for the Craig canon. She's also secretary to the other 00's, which in itself creates another level of interest. My main worry would be that her name is particularly antiquated, not to say it couldn't work, though. As it is, I can't see it ever happening - your man on the street wouldn't understand the significance.
That's entirely a matter of opinion, you might well think them classics and yes I've been a Bond fan since 1977 but I don't look at the old films as solid gold classics.
We've a difference of opinion and I would say CR, SF and QOS to some degree are much better made films in my opinion. I would say you are just as a poor show as me with your constant complaining of the DC era.
Just because you like the older films doesn't make your opionion anymore valid plus I'm willing to move with the times whereas you'd likely be happy if they were museum pieces that had not moved on one bit or that is what I get the impression with criticism of this era and the constant brown nosing of the older films.
Brown nosing? The fact alone that someone states he considers the first bond movies were better and more solidly scripted doesn't make him a brown Noser. Even the so much vaunted CR has some real script issues logic wise and SF solidly holds the title of being the one movie in the franchise that is holding less logic than a Donald Duck comic book. Richard Maibaum might not have been a genius,but he was very very able for sure. Something that certainly can't be said of Mr Logan!
I believe then that the only thing it will really push back (if you're following the SF schedule) is story information, the trailers/teasers, etc.
Yes, perfectly feasible. It will just rely on all involved being relatively decisive. It's not a bad thing imo. A lot of decent films have shot on a limited time-scale (which this still won't be) and a shorter window for the edit is also not a bad thing (depending on your editor).