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i agree with ludovico. john is good with dialogue and charaters but plot is not his thing ... evidence penny dreadful!
You can't make story and plot changes without changing the dialogue. The characters' dialogue is intrinsically tied in with what they are experiencing in the story, the action, the drama, how they react to situations and to other characters.
It's hard for anyone outside the production to say for sure, but reports suggest P&W did a substantial re-write.
I'm just annoyed we had to wait this long to get a working script completed. Furthermore, had Mendes not come back, would Babs and Michael have green-lit Logan's script for whichever director to shoot? I don't know, I'm not as confident as I'd like to be with the producers' decision-making. Too many variables and random luck flying around.
As I've said on much earlier posts, script re-writes are very, very, very common in the film game.
For whatever creative reasons, the producers and the director, Mendes, have all decided, as is their right, the Logan draft/script would develop better (and perhaps faster as the production deadlines closed in) if they hired the experienced Purvis and Wade team.
That's what they did. All that matters is that the script has advanced in a positive way, and with the green-light now flashing, it appears that is indeed the case.
Mendes job is to know and tell a good story. He's the helm here. Craig k owns a goos s a good story. The producers trust and waited for Mendes. So breathe and don't panic lol.
In reality, P+W likely did a significant rewrite of Logan's last draft, yes, but they didn't start from scratch. Furthermore, P+W "starting over" would mean discarding most of Sam Mendes' ideas and input that he has put into Logan's various drafts over the past year. Mendes was quite hands-on with the Skyfall script and, in his latest interviews, Mendes indicated he was also knee-deep in Logan's script revisions for Bond 24. I don't think Mendes would tolerate all his ideas thrown out with the bathwater. In fact, Mendes asking P+W to rewrite Logan's script seems to indicate Logan wasn't meeting Mendes' standards.
It will be interesting to see what the film's credits will show in terms of script accreditation. I think the "Logan's script was put aside" gossip might be a classic example of rumor outrunning reality.
Thanks for this. This sounds like the most sensible explanation and what may very likely be the case here in how things went down. I just hope the same mistakes with SF's script hasn't been repeated here this time around.
That's very well put, @ColonelSun. Thanks again.
So not just a small addition of humor/action/etc. as needed. Not just tweaking of dialog (but yes, it would change as the script changed). But also not throwing out Logan's script entirely; no.
This is very good news - that all the major parties in charge of the film are now happy and excited to move forward, satisfied with the script now.
I know the script is critically important, but for sure so does Mendes. So now I'm looking forward to news on different fronts: location, cinematographer, and surely we should hear something (even if only strong rumors) about casting within a couple of months.
I also have a copy of P&W's first TWINE draft and it is terrible. Dana Stevens and Feirstein actually improved it, believe it or not. They don't get the Bond character (see how gloomy and unfunny he is in DAD, their only solo effort), or his world. Let's hope their input has been exaggerated by gossip columnists.
I have copies of Warhead and Purvis and Wade TWINE. Both are terrible BTW ... but Connery's effort is better believe it or not. Perhaps they should have hired Sir Seane to revise Logan's scrip!
The script for DAD as it appears onscreen is better than the first draft of TWINE.
That's a reason why all drafts need a phase of rewriting...
Yes I know about the plot of Burgess TSWLM, he talks about it a good deal in You'be Had Your Time. Close to zilch was used, after all he was writing something akin to the anti Bond.
What source are you using? In this draft it's "She's waiting for you":
http://www.universalexports.net/scripts/twine.shtml
Agreed. Richard Maibaum may have said that "Bond films are not written or directed, they are produced", those times are fortunately over.
Schmoes Know (who have a very good track record when it comes to scooping news) have confirmed that Lea Seydoux is the frontrunner to join Bond 24.