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I'm advocating a female character whose defining characteristic is her physicality, not her charms or her looks, which would be more in line with the femme fatale idea. Sure, such a character should be beautiful as well, which would make for an interesting dynamic between her beauty and the fact that she could take Bond out with her bare hands, but it shouldn't be the defining aspect of the character.
Depends how you do it. Patrice was not really a henchman anyway, not like Oddjob or Jaws. He was a contracted killer.
You have got a point here. Still yet the silent henchmen is nothing original these days and hard to top in the fearsome factor, when you consider where movies have brought us. Just remember the silent guy in Sin city who wouldn't even talk, when he was eaten alive. I just don't believe the producers have the originality needed to better this at their disposal these days. Also just as others have mentioned it is really time that the most muscular Bond in history gets a real frightening opponent physical wise. It strikes me as kind of ironic that Craigs Bond should sail into the mists of movie history with only opponents like LeChiffre and Green and none of the likes of Grant, Oddjob and Jaws. Hell, what had they have him bulk up so much for,when his Tomb Raider physique was so much more special forces like?
My idea: do the anti-Grant. Have the henchman dark (Mediterranean looking as I mentioned) and mouthy. I don't want a Bane clone, but I thought they took the right approach in TDKR: a circus strong man villain, slow but deadly, who taunts the hero as he humiliates him.
I also have been championing Valuev as the mammoth goon henchman to take on Craig's Bond! It would be epic due to the sheer size of the man! [-O< :-c :-bd
Rather than iconic, moronic is a more apt term. Chewing through cable, surviving a fall from an airplane, etc. made the series feel like the predecessor of Austin Powers rather than the object of its parody.
It's time for an iconic henchman to be menacing and threatening without being preposterous. Please, no more throwing barbells at his chest and they just bounce off.
And big doesn't always have to be a criterion. Heath Ledger's Joker and Roman Polanski in Chinatown are two of examples of bad guys not being physically imposing, but nonetheless scary.
The series can lighten up a bit, but the pendulum doesn't need to swing back to
the era of RM.
More than even this series needs to bold, clever, and inventive.
At least they are bringing in that kind of character, which is new for Craig's Bond. My doubts about Bond films are pretty much always with the way a part is written. A strong henchman, though, is a very good idea, especially now. It has been many years without a strong henchman. The role can be memorable without dipping into complete homage or buffoonery. It gives me something new (for Craig's Bond) to look forward to.
This is my worry.
If these stories are true, then it sounds like we're going to get the Craig version of Moonraker. Bigger...bigger...BIGGER!
And it concerns me a little.
It didn't take long--specifically, when he dropped the rock on his own foot.
He didn't have to go in that direction, but as @echo said, it's pretty clear that was the direction that EON wanted him to go in from the start. He's a menacing character at first, and does maintain quite a bit of that menace, but he becomes cartoonish rather early on, especially in that moment where he drops the rock on his foot.
i wouldn't really call Elvis or Patrice henchmen.... that term "henchmen" gets thrown around a bit too candidly when talking about random baddies in a Bond film... I do remember the guy who plays Elvis in article, calling himself a henchman - and he was even referred to on this site as henchman during his casting... but seeing him in the film, he was no henchman... he was just another goon - the same as Patrice... neither built up enough significance or screen time to be rightfully labeled as "a henchman" in their respective films... god, i remember when Mr. Bullion in TWINE was lauded as the next classic Bond henchman - but his usage in the film was anything but...
the last real henchman we got was Zao - whether he was good or not is anyone's own opinion (i thought he had potential, but was pretty useless).
Elvis asks "How much longer."
And is completely ignored.
What is the point of this scene let's see if Bond 24 can offer something better,
However, this doesn't mean we're going to get the silliness of what Jaws descended into; even the Brosnan era didn't give us a character that embarrassingly silly and I think the writing team along with Mendes and Craig's own input will ensure to prevent things from going to ridiculously silly places.
@PanchitoPistoles
"Let's move forward instead of looking back again!"
Amen to that...and that goes for the humour too! By all means bring back the humour and a Mooresque film after Craig has left.
I want a henchman. I'm not getting concerned yet. If they hire Upton as a Bond girl, for example, I will be dismayed and concerned at that.
Plus his grandgrandfather or something once had a role in a Bond movie (but I can't remember which one was it :/ )
His grandfather played the guy Bond fights in Osato's office in YOLT....
but Dwayne Johnson is too big of a star on his own... i doubt they cast someone who is that recognizable for merely henchmen status.
Danny Trejo. Good call!
Words of wisdom here.
Iconic happens.
Did they thought "Oh boy covering this girl in gold will be popular 50 years from now" or "Ursula in bikini will be so great 50 years from now". No. They did what they thought was good for the film and it ended up being iconic on its own.
On another hand Halle getting out of the water was supposed be "iconic" and "paying homage" much like the girl painted in oil from "Quantum of Solace" and both ended up being stupid.
They want to attract people for the casting, that's all. Of course iconic cannot be made, it just happens. But they need to attract people for the casting, so they are promissing they will go down in history. That's all it is.