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  • doubleoego wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    In The Sunday People today:

    Chiwetel Ejiofor is refusing to deny rumours he is to play the next James Bond villian. Asked this week the 12 years a Slave star said "Who knows, its is all speculative at this point. You will be the first find out". Asked if he wanted to follow in the footsteps of acting legends such as Christopher Lee and Donald Pleasence Chiwi, 37, added: "Its a great franchise any actor would like to be in"

    I really would like him as the next villain!

    Why?

    Kind of a dumb question but here's more than enough reason as to why...



    He was in his mid to late 20s and already had such a magnificent and compelling screen presence.

    That is a matter of taste @doubleoego. Because for me his screen presence escapes me slightly. He lacks the screen presence Javier Border had. His portrayal of Silva will go down as one of the best and most psychotic Bond villains. Seeing Ejiofor in a way more dramatic role, defending human rights as captured slave in "12 Years" simply makes me less enthusiastic. I think he could do very well as a more larger role of Félix Letter. But he is by no means a Christoph Waltz, Daniel-Day Lewis or Javier Bardem.

    My opinion. And if Ejiofor IS casted as villain, then I'm still curious how it turns out. But if he is a villain, then I think he will be more Dominic Green/Largo-esquema. With that I mean he probably won't be the real Blofeld-esque Silva-esque criminal mastermind.
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    I asked her, if she has the link. Her answer:

    No, I was just reading the paper and copied what it said.

    But its from this sunday. Whether or not they copied past comments..who knows..but it was written yesterday
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    In The Sunday People today:

    Chiwetel Ejiofor is refusing to deny rumours he is to play the next James Bond villian. Asked this week the 12 years a Slave star said "Who knows, its is all speculative at this point. You will be the first find out". Asked if he wanted to follow in the footsteps of acting legends such as Christopher Lee and Donald Pleasence Chiwi, 37, added: "Its a great franchise any actor would like to be in"

    I really would like him as the next villain!

    Why?

    Kind of a dumb question but here's more than enough reason as to why...



    He was in his mid to late 20s and already had such a magnificent and compelling screen presence.

    That is a matter of taste @doubleoego. Because for me his screen presence escapes me slightly. He lacks the screen presence Javier Border had. His portrayal of Silva will go down as one of the best and most psychotic Bond villains. Seeing Ejiofor in a way more dramatic role, defending human rights as captured slave in "12 Years" simply makes me less enthusiastic. I think he could do very well as a more larger role of Félix Letter. But he is by no means a Christoph Waltz, Daniel-Day Lewis or Javier Bardem.

    My opinion. And if Ejiofor IS casted as villain, then I'm still curious how it turns out. But if he is a villain, then I think he will be more Dominic Green/Largo-esquema. With that I mean he probably won't be the real Blofeld-esque Silva-esque criminal mastermind.

    Your concerns are misplaced. First of all I think Bardem as Silva is painfully overrated. Secondly, what you want largely depends on the script and how the character is written. Ejiofor has the talent and ability to bring an acting dynamic that the script may call for, hence why I posted that link with him in the role as the operative. I get the impression that you've not seen many of his movies anyway, maybe you should go and do something about that. Lastly, talking about Day-Lewis is pointless; he hasn't been in a Bond film and to suggest what he would be like in one essentially puts him in the same boat as Ejiofor as we only have an idea if what could happen and even then it's abstract conjecture because it's all dependent on the script. DeNiro, Kevin Spacey...there are a plethora if brilliant actors who have either been in Bond films and other films where the talents were under-utilised, primarily because if the material they had to work with.
  • doubleoego wrote: »
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    In The Sunday People today:

    Chiwetel Ejiofor is refusing to deny rumours he is to play the next James Bond villian. Asked this week the 12 years a Slave star said "Who knows, its is all speculative at this point. You will be the first find out". Asked if he wanted to follow in the footsteps of acting legends such as Christopher Lee and Donald Pleasence Chiwi, 37, added: "Its a great franchise any actor would like to be in"

    I really would like him as the next villain!

    Why?

    Kind of a dumb question but here's more than enough reason as to why...



    He was in his mid to late 20s and already had such a magnificent and compelling screen presence.

    That is a matter of taste @doubleoego. Because for me his screen presence escapes me slightly. He lacks the screen presence Javier Border had. His portrayal of Silva will go down as one of the best and most psychotic Bond villains. Seeing Ejiofor in a way more dramatic role, defending human rights as captured slave in "12 Years" simply makes me less enthusiastic. I think he could do very well as a more larger role of Félix Letter. But he is by no means a Christoph Waltz, Daniel-Day Lewis or Javier Bardem.

    My opinion. And if Ejiofor IS casted as villain, then I'm still curious how it turns out. But if he is a villain, then I think he will be more Dominic Green/Largo-esquema. With that I mean he probably won't be the real Blofeld-esque Silva-esque criminal mastermind.

    Your concerns are misplaced. First of all I think Bardem as Silva is painfully overrated. Secondly, what you want largely depends on the script and how the character is written. Ejiofor has the talent and ability to bring an acting dynamic that the script may call for, hence why I posted that link with him in the role as the operative. I get the impression that you've not seen many of his movies anyway, maybe you should go and do something about that. Lastly, talking about Day-Lewis is pointless; he hasn't been in a Bond film and to suggest what he would be like in one essentially puts him in the same boat as Ejiofor as we only have an idea if what could happen and even then it's abstract conjecture because it's all dependent on the script. DeNiro, Kevin Spacey...there are a plethora if brilliant actors who have either been in Bond films and other films where the talents were under-utilised, primarily because if the material they had to work with.

    Well really, disagreeing is one thing, but calling it misplaced is a bit too much I think. You're talking in hyperboles. So far the only real information we have about the Bond villain....are rumours. So until then this topic can be about EVERY actor. From Ejiofor to Day-Lewis. So your rather bold statement that my argument is misplaced is in itself slightly misplaced.

    Secondly, I actually said that if Ejiofor is casted, I could see him as a villain. The rumours are slightly pointing towards that anyway. But you ignore that fact. I saw Ejiofor in a great role in "American Gangster" (I stated that previously). So I'd rather base any casting decisions on that movie instead of "12 Years A Slave". That is my opinion.

    And my opinion also is, that Ejiofor does NOT have such a grand filmography behind his CV compared to Bardem, Waltz and Day-Lewis. And until we receive a confirmation from EON, every actor in here should and can be discussed. There's nothing "misplaced" about that.

    And if you think Bardem was severely overrated as villain, then I can say Ejiofor is a great actor that deserves a big role in Bond 24. For me though, it isn't my favourite name to play a psychotic mastermind running a crime organisation. For me he could play a more Le Chiffre-type of character: Villainous, just not the real mastermind behind QUANTUM.

    Furthermore, I am a bit afraid that EON is thinking "Oowh, well, Skyfall is something we can't repeat again". I disagree then, as I think with Craig in Casino Royale and Skyfall EON has created a 2nd "golden age of Bond". We need to think big, large and grand as we did with Skyfall. Bond deserves not just good talent. It think it deserves the best actors that are available, preferably with equally good brand recognition. It deserves a "Bardem". Ejiofor doesn't exactly do it for me.....just yet. Call me misplaced, but it is my opinion.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    I could easily see her as an ice-cold henchwoman, but as a main villainess? It's too early to tell, IMO. Maybe a few years down the track.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Germanlady wrote: »
    I asked her, if she has the link. Her answer:

    No, I was just reading the paper and copied what it said.

    But its from this sunday. Whether or not they copied past comments..who knows..but it was written yesterday

    It sounds promising to have his name come up again regardless. Thanks for getting back to me.
  • What about Tilda Swinton? Or Julianne Moore?

    Especially Tilda Swinton could play a wunderful rebooted Rosa Klebb-esque henchwoman. That kind of mercenary that basically IS capable of dominating James Bond.
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    What about Tilda Swinton? Or Julianne Moore?

    Especially Tilda Swinton could play a wunderful rebooted Rosa Klebb-esque henchwoman. That kind of mercenary that basically IS capable of dominating James Bond.

    I think Tilda Swinton would be IDEAL as a main villain or psycotic henchwoman!
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    I am also a bit tired of the "sexy" evil woman in Bond movies. Okay, this hasn't been done since DAD, but tired of people thinking there should be one "bad" Bond girl (or Bond bad girl?). We haven't had a truly ugly villainess since OHMSS. It has been long overdue.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    edited September 2014 Posts: 5,080
    I'd welcome another villainess in the vain of Klebb or Bunt. Would be very interesting pitting her against Craig's Bond.
  • EmilioEmilio Palmyra, Nassau
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    ...Especially Tilda Swinton could play a wunderful rebooted Rosa Klebb-esque henchwoman. That kind of mercenary that basically IS capable of dominating James Bond.

    I'd love that!
    =D>
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    I think it is getting more certain that Ejiofor will play the villain. I am still dubious about the idea: too youthful looking, too good looking, too nice looking. yes, yes, he played villain. But I like Bond villains to have an air of malevolence and I don't see it in him.

    I was kind of hoping Simon Russell Beale. Oh well.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Tilda Swinton would be fantastic; she could paired with one of the previously mentioned "big guys" As a Klebb/Grant like duo.
  • Emilio wrote: »
    ...Especially Tilda Swinton could play a wunderful rebooted Rosa Klebb-esque henchwoman. That kind of mercenary that basically IS capable of dominating James Bond.

    I'd love that!
    =D>

    I was mentioning Tilda Swinton, because she's actually NOT the ordinary "sexy" evil woman. She usually has roles that are way more compelling than, let's say, a badly written Miranda Frost who doesn't ooze ANY fear at all.

    No, Tilda is the actress that could do a wunderful henchwoman a la Klebb or Volpe.

    Or what about this forgotten actress? We all know her as Captain Janeway from the USS Voyager. But she's making one hell of a comeback in "Orange Is The New Black", a Netflix original series. She even was nominated for an Emmy Award for her role in that series:

  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
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    Chris Rosewarne, concept artist & illustrator for Skyfall is back on board for Bond 24. I had a little chat with him on Twitter earlier today.



    His work in Skyfall: http://www.chrisrosewarne.com/work-skyfall.html
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Thanks, @marketto007! For the news of him being back on board and for the link to his work on Skyfall. Really enjoyed looking at his artwork!
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    Excellent work, @marketto007!
    I'm glad you're back to bussiness on Bond 24 ;)
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Nice. Hopefully more news will filter through in the coming days and weeks.
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    Glad to see Marketto is also onboard for Bond 24!!! :-bd
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
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    I never left. :D
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    @haserot mentioned in the Newman appreciation thread that new man's schedule looks to be packed out for the next two years which gives me hope that he may NOT return for Bond 24. Let's hope this is true.
  • doubleoego wrote: »
    @haserot mentioned in the Newman appreciation thread that new man's schedule looks to be packed out for the next two years which gives me hope that he may NOT return for Bond 24. Let's hope this is true.

    And I hope David Arnold's kind gesture to actually indirectly support Thomas Newman as composer comes true :-):

    fhWeCxy.jpg

    Only one will be right in the end: Me or @DoubleOEgo ;-).
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    DC is in London, so at this point, I think, it could very well be to screentest some actresses or others.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    doubleoego wrote: »
    @haserot mentioned in the Newman appreciation thread that new man's schedule looks to be packed out for the next two years which gives me hope that he may NOT return for Bond 24. Let's hope this is true.

    And I hope David Arnold's kind gesture to actually indirectly support Thomas Newman as composer comes true :-):

    fhWeCxy.jpg

    Only one will be right in the end: Me or @DoubleOEgo ;-).

    Ha! I'm afraid you're the only one in this race, buddy. I'm not saying Newman won't be back, I'm just really hoping that he won't be.
  • That Chris Rosewarne seems a talented guy. If he came up with the original conceptual stuff, that gives me a lot of optimism for what we're going to see on screen in Bond 24.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    @haserot mentioned in the Newman appreciation thread that new man's schedule looks to be packed out for the next two years which gives me hope that he may NOT return for Bond 24. Let's hope this is true.

    And I hope David Arnold's kind gesture to actually indirectly support Thomas Newman as composer comes true :-):

    fhWeCxy.jpg

    Only one will be right in the end: Me or @DoubleOEgo ;-).

    Ha! I'm afraid you're the only one in this race, buddy. I'm not saying Newman won't be back, I'm just really hoping that he won't be.

    So do I.
  • Walecs wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    @haserot mentioned in the Newman appreciation thread that new man's schedule looks to be packed out for the next two years which gives me hope that he may NOT return for Bond 24. Let's hope this is true.

    And I hope David Arnold's kind gesture to actually indirectly support Thomas Newman as composer comes true :-):

    fhWeCxy.jpg

    Only one will be right in the end: Me or @DoubleOEgo ;-).

    Ha! I'm afraid you're the only one in this race, buddy. I'm not saying Newman won't be back, I'm just really hoping that he won't be.

    So do I.

    Oh yes! Someone who has a melody in him and not only sound fragments would indeed be nice.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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  • HASEROT wrote: »
    @doubleoego

    lol.... i really don't care if Newman is back or not... if he is - great... if he's not, oh well - they'll get someone else... as much as i don't think his soundtrack to SF was anything spectacular - it was far from bad, and there are plenty of tracks on there that i do like... Brave New World, Shanghai Drive, Jellyfish, Silhouette, Komodo Dragon, The Chimera, Tennyson, Enquiry and Skyfall (the not the title theme, but the one when they drive to the lodge) - i love those ones.....

    i just brought up what i noticed on IMDB - and anything can change from now until a decision is made - and i will say that right now, I am 80% sure that Newman will probably be back.... but it looks like he will have a lot on his plate, so the possibility of him turning down Bond 24 is there...... I know @Gustav_Graves just loves to be right all the time :), but that quote from Arnold neither confirms nor denies anything - it's just Arnold's opinion/assumption based on the fact that Mendes likes using Newman.... spinning it like it's Arnold conceding a victory in some sort of contest - when it's not, means squat..... it all comes down to Newman himself if he wants another go - we'll see..

    Ooowh, I do agree with you @Haserot :-P. But I hope I'm not as....ehm....self-centered as people think. Man, I have been wrong soooo many times. Allthough I did predict the great "money laundering effect" that "Skyfall" created (With that I mean....prediction the worldwide gross of the movie as accurately as possible, opposed to fans saying the film will "only" bring around $650 million). And the huge rain of awards on "Skyfall" :-).

    Let me put it this way: I try to predict, combined with some marketing expertise I have myself (my own work). If I'm right, than that gives me a good feeling. If I'm not, I'm happy too hehe. I guess........"Skyfall" made me a bit too enthusiastic at times...

    Anyway, I do agree with your notion that nothing has been confirmed yet. And once they ask David Arnold to do Bond 24, he will be back for sure....
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