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The pre-title sequences generally take many weeks to prep and shoot. 3 days sounds more like dialogue/drama scene/s in that particular location - or just a small part of a larger dramatic or action sequence which requires other locations.
It was awful, utterly awful. The real aerial photography in MR is superb.
Absolutely! I will never forget,when I first saw it in the movie theatre. This truly was a guy,that NEVER EVER gave up. Say what you will about MR (and there is a lot negative to be said), but this must be one of the most uplifting and adrenalin pushing moments in movie history. It certainly was to me and they did it all for real!
I'm guessing the latter. Didn't sources say that the small village they are to build there, is suppose to blow up or some sorts?
Well we already know it wont be that minimal. Craig will be in town, and it is Craig who is only there for 3 days. The crew will need to set up and could stick around for some stunt work and exposition shots after Craig leaves. It was even rumored they were building part of a fake village for the scene. We also know there will be skiing. So I think it's definitely more than a few seconds. I'd say 15 minutes, at the start of the film ;)
But MI6 own report on the homepage states, DC AND the crew for 3 days. I suppose, reports at this point are not identical, so no way of really knowing.
DC is obviously in Shepperton Studios doing "action" .. seems training is on,,.
Perhaps they're constructing the fake village elsewhere and only using the reported locale for establishing shots and to make the scene a little more grounded with some real shots. Seems likely to me.
Each to his own indeed....Jesus Christ.
As I said so :-). I think that's what it will be.
Isn't it just. You've got one stunt which took months of preparation combined with a couple of weeks of shooting involving almost 100 death defying parachute jumps. That's 3 stuntmen and a cameraman in all risking life and limb for a 2 minute scene.
And yet a sequence filmed against a bloody green screen using computer technology is supposedly "more intense and realistic".
Dear oh dear.
Yup wasn't ruined with a dorky cartoonish ending. Bond got hurt real sense if danger with hard landing and no damn circus. Oh yes and ya can't see the parachutes under the jackets.
I didn't sat the sequence wasn't good and exciting btw... just said the QoS sequence was not the scourge of the series of the series like the ice boarding sequence in DAD.
And apart from being completely faked, the QoS scene looked awfully realistic when Bond pulls the ripcord on a parachute just fifty feet from the ground despite travelling at terminal velocity. And no, Bond did not get hurt one bit.
That wasn't cartoonish in the slightest either.
I'm not sure they make you wear them in freefall simulators. With it being a couple of feet off the ground it feels a tad unnecessary.
Plus if anything goes wrong. it may cause you to scratch your knee.
Highly perilous.
Its not far away from the parasurfing in DAD. Its not a case of the CGI being good or bad - its the fact it was used at all so the fact that the QOS scene is not as embarrassingly poor as the DAD one makes very little difference to me. Bond films do stunts for real period - that should be non-negotiable on EON's part when talking with a director but it seems they dont really care any more.
You seem to be clinging to the circus tent as the lynchpin of your argument but thats just a stupid end to the scene. It doesnt detract from the staggering stuntwork that has preceded it.
The tragedy is even if the legendary BJ Worth might be knocking on a bit these days there are still blokes out there who could have given us this:
Rather than this:
Off topic anyway... hoping Bond 24 doesn't give us any material to argue about. :D
But at least with MR we can bask in the triumph of the truly great stunt work that has preceded Jaws' fall.
QoS does not have that luxury to fall back on.
Difficult to argue the merits of an action scene without commenting on its execution. The parasurfing scene in DAD would be the greatest stunt in cinema history if it was done for real. But it wasnt. And history judges it as utter shit.
The MR scene is stunningly simple in its set up: Bond pushed out of a plane sans parachute but theres a guy below him who hasnt opened his yet - game on! And then they go and make you believe that he actually catches up with him and nicks his chute through some staggering stuntwork. OK due to some poor creative decisions with Jaws (not for the last time in MR - poor Richard Kiel deserved better) the end of the scene is stupid but its not enough to ruin what preceded it.
QOS is almost a rip off of the same stunt but faked with CGI from start to finish. Not even one shot of someone in actual freefall!!! This is Bond not Avatar so why are we relying on green screen and computers for the action? All your argument seems to have to hang onto is that the Jaws into the circus tent is stupid - no ones going to disagree with that and it leaves a sour taste in the mouth after the stunts before it. But the QOS scene leaves a sour taste in the mouth akin to drinking a bottle of bleach as it's CGI from start to finish and by the time they hit the ground I'm too busy coughing up my dissolving stomach lining to give a toss that they land a bit hard.
The real reason this scene is so awful is that it pisses all over the legacy of Bob Simmons, George Leech, Martin Grace, Willy Bogner, Rick Sylvester, BJ Worth, Jake Lombard et al - which for a Bond film to do is utterly unacceptable.
I certainly hope it does give us something to argue about. If it doesnt that means it is the dullest, anodyne, most PC film ever. I'm tempted to quote Algernon's line from NSNA here about gratuitous sex and violence.
What I do find greivous was the whistle effect during the car jump in TMWTGG. That interrupted the suspense, as did the Beach Boys interlude in AVTAK.
To this day I can remember how angry I was during that Beach Boy interruption. I had really been enjoying the excitment of that pts up till that point. Grrrr! :)
My biggest concern with the QoS parachute fall, upon initial viewings, was this feeling of what the heck just happened? Left one confused.
The DAD CGI was simply abominable. Like suddenly we were watching a live-action cartoon. Worst moment IMO, in all of Bond cinema history.
Its quite funny listening to the dvd extras as the filmmakers expound on how they nailed it. :(