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  • She's not ugly but I don't think she's fit either. Not really Bond girl material imo.

    Maybe she'll be playing a henchwoman, like Irma Bunt or Rosa Klebb. They all have something in common: They're ugly as hell, but they still are a...ehm....a "Bond girl" ;-).
  • But she's not "ugly as hell". Nowhere near as ugly as the likes of Klebb. However, I don't think she's fit enough to be a Bond girl either. That's the problem, she's just pretty average looking, not ugly enough to be a Klebb/Bunt type, not hot enough to be a proper Bond girl.

    Maybe she's playing a villain or something. Idk, I'll judge when the film comes out, but I'm skeptical about her.

    @Zekidk Ghost Protocol had a lower budget than Skyfall? Really? That's surprised me, I wouldn't have guessed that. Makes me wonder what exactly they spent all that money on in SF.

    Not as bad as QoS though. That had a bigger budget than any other Bond film and it was just wasted on locations that we spent hardly any time in. Big disappointment.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Ugly as hell to describe Froggat is a ridiculously mean overreaction @Gustav.
    I agree she's far from being Bond girl material and I'm quite frustrated at Eon being incapable of casting out of this world stunners when so many can be found on bloody TV and in other films.

    I saw a wanted man yesterday and bloody hell I forgot how gorgeous Rachel McAdams is. One can only imagine if she was in a Bond movie plus it helps she's also a talented actress.

    Eon and Mendes I hope will cast someone insanely beautiful. I'm tired of Mendes talking about his fans I'm and knowledge of Bond then acts like he doesn't know what Bond movies are about. I'm with @thelivingroyale on this, a part of me is disappointed that he's helminth again because the action and the love scenes in SF were subpar.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Although to be honest I don't think Mendes seems bothered about the sex side of the Bond films (or the action side either). SF had only one real Bond girl (who had hardly any screentime) and there wasn't a real sex scene. We see Bond getting off with two girls (nameless Turkish girl and Severine) but both times the scene only lasts for literally a few seconds, then we cut away.

    Same with the action really. The best action scene (and the only real big set piece) was the PTS, which he got out of the way as quickly as possible before moving on to all the drama stuff with M.

    Since when have had graphic sex in a Bond film? By all means criticise Mendes but not for this. The scene in the shower with Severine is more than we see in most Bond films and if you're expecting a money shot in Bond then you really haven't been paying attention for the last 50 years.

    If you want to see tits then PM me and I'll tell you about something called the internet but don't go looking for them in Bond films because you'll be disappointed.

    However you are spot on when it comes to the action. Apart from the PTS the action in SF really wasn't up to scratch. The tube scene was good dramatically but seriously lacking in spectacle.

    The trouble is given the box office EON aren't going to demand any great changes and SF earning 1 billion (plus EON's fawning over him) has pretty much given Mendes carte Blanche to do things as he sees fit.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited September 2014 Posts: 4,520
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    I realy hope there ask Lucie Bates (Hanna ''2011'') as costume desinger or asking Louise Frogley (QOS) back. If Jany Temime (Skyfall/Gravity) wil not return or there wil not ask Patricia Norris (Won oscar for 12 Years a slave)

  • Although to be honest I don't think Mendes seems bothered about the sex side of the Bond films (or the action side either). SF had only one real Bond girl (who had hardly any screentime) and there wasn't a real sex scene. We see Bond getting off with two girls (nameless Turkish girl and Severine) but both times the scene only lasts for literally a few seconds, then we cut away.

    Same with the action really. The best action scene (and the only real big set piece) was the PTS, which he got out of the way as quickly as possible before moving on to all the drama stuff with M.

    Since when have had graphic sex in a Bond film? By all means criticise Mendes but not for this. The scene in the shower with Severine is more than we see in most Bond films and if you're expecting a money shot in Bond then you really haven't been paying attention for the last 50 years.

    If you want to see tits then PM me and I'll tell you about something called the internet but don't go looking for them in Bond films because you'll be disappointed.

    However you are spot on when it comes to the action. Apart from the PTS the action in SF really wasn't up to scratch. The tube scene was good dramatically but seriously lacking in spectacle.

    The trouble is given the box office EON aren't going to demand any great changes and SF earning 1 billion (plus EON's fawning over him) has pretty much given Mendes carte Blanche to do things as he sees fit.

    There's a difference between showing the Bond girls tits and having a love scene that lasts more than five seconds and is sexier than just seeing Bond walking into the shower, kissing her then the camera quickly cutting away. The bit at the start of TND with the Danish girl was sexier than any of the sex scenes in SF.

    And like I said, there's only one proper Bond girl and she gets just a few minutes screentime so we don't really have any eye candy for the majority of the film either. I miss the good old days when Bond had a fit girl in a skimpy outfit helping him stop the bad guy rather than Judi Dench.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117

    Although to be honest I don't think Mendes seems bothered about the sex side of the Bond films (or the action side either). SF had only one real Bond girl (who had hardly any screentime) and there wasn't a real sex scene. We see Bond getting off with two girls (nameless Turkish girl and Severine) but both times the scene only lasts for literally a few seconds, then we cut away.

    Same with the action really. The best action scene (and the only real big set piece) was the PTS, which he got out of the way as quickly as possible before moving on to all the drama stuff with M.

    Since when have had graphic sex in a Bond film? By all means criticise Mendes but not for this. The scene in the shower with Severine is more than we see in most Bond films and if you're expecting a money shot in Bond then you really haven't been paying attention for the last 50 years.

    If you want to see tits then PM me and I'll tell you about something called the internet but don't go looking for them in Bond films because you'll be disappointed.

    However you are spot on when it comes to the action. Apart from the PTS the action in SF really wasn't up to scratch. The tube scene was good dramatically but seriously lacking in spectacle.

    The trouble is given the box office EON aren't going to demand any great changes and SF earning 1 billion (plus EON's fawning over him) has pretty much given Mendes carte Blanche to do things as he sees fit.

    There's a difference between showing the Bond girls tits and having a love scene that lasts more than five seconds and is sexier than just seeing Bond walking into the shower, kissing her then the camera quickly cutting away. The bit at the start of TND with the Danish girl was sexier than any of the sex scenes in SF.

    And like I said, there's only one proper Bond girl and she gets just a few minutes screentime so we don't really have any eye candy for the majority of the film either. I miss the good old days when Bond had a fit girl in a skimpy outfit helping him stop the bad guy rather than Judi Dench.

    Name me one Bond film where we actually see him properly on the job?

    95% of the time it's either pre or post coitus.

    The only ones that really spring to mind are 'he's attempting re-entry' and Jinx on top of him.
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    @Zekidk Ghost Protocol had a lower budget than Skyfall? Really? That's surprised me, I wouldn't have guessed that. Makes me wonder what exactly they spent all that money on in SF.

    Ghost Protocol: Budget: 145 million $.
    Skyfall: Budget: 200 million $.

    And yes... Ghost Protocol looks more "expensive."
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    That is crazy!

  • Although to be honest I don't think Mendes seems bothered about the sex side of the Bond films (or the action side either). SF had only one real Bond girl (who had hardly any screentime) and there wasn't a real sex scene. We see Bond getting off with two girls (nameless Turkish girl and Severine) but both times the scene only lasts for literally a few seconds, then we cut away.

    Same with the action really. The best action scene (and the only real big set piece) was the PTS, which he got out of the way as quickly as possible before moving on to all the drama stuff with M.

    Since when have had graphic sex in a Bond film? By all means criticise Mendes but not for this. The scene in the shower with Severine is more than we see in most Bond films and if you're expecting a money shot in Bond then you really haven't been paying attention for the last 50 years.

    If you want to see tits then PM me and I'll tell you about something called the internet but don't go looking for them in Bond films because you'll be disappointed.

    However you are spot on when it comes to the action. Apart from the PTS the action in SF really wasn't up to scratch. The tube scene was good dramatically but seriously lacking in spectacle.

    The trouble is given the box office EON aren't going to demand any great changes and SF earning 1 billion (plus EON's fawning over him) has pretty much given Mendes carte Blanche to do things as he sees fit.

    There's a difference between showing the Bond girls tits and having a love scene that lasts more than five seconds and is sexier than just seeing Bond walking into the shower, kissing her then the camera quickly cutting away. The bit at the start of TND with the Danish girl was sexier than any of the sex scenes in SF.

    And like I said, there's only one proper Bond girl and she gets just a few minutes screentime so we don't really have any eye candy for the majority of the film either. I miss the good old days when Bond had a fit girl in a skimpy outfit helping him stop the bad guy rather than Judi Dench.

    Name me one Bond film where we actually see him properly on the job?

    95% of the time it's either pre or post coitus.

    The only ones that really spring to mind are 'he's attempting re-entry' and Jinx on top of him.

    Yeah but normally the pre or post sex scenes last longer than a few seconds and don't just consist of Bond walking up to the girl in the shower and kissing her.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117

    Although to be honest I don't think Mendes seems bothered about the sex side of the Bond films (or the action side either). SF had only one real Bond girl (who had hardly any screentime) and there wasn't a real sex scene. We see Bond getting off with two girls (nameless Turkish girl and Severine) but both times the scene only lasts for literally a few seconds, then we cut away.

    Same with the action really. The best action scene (and the only real big set piece) was the PTS, which he got out of the way as quickly as possible before moving on to all the drama stuff with M.

    Since when have had graphic sex in a Bond film? By all means criticise Mendes but not for this. The scene in the shower with Severine is more than we see in most Bond films and if you're expecting a money shot in Bond then you really haven't been paying attention for the last 50 years.

    If you want to see tits then PM me and I'll tell you about something called the internet but don't go looking for them in Bond films because you'll be disappointed.

    However you are spot on when it comes to the action. Apart from the PTS the action in SF really wasn't up to scratch. The tube scene was good dramatically but seriously lacking in spectacle.

    The trouble is given the box office EON aren't going to demand any great changes and SF earning 1 billion (plus EON's fawning over him) has pretty much given Mendes carte Blanche to do things as he sees fit.

    There's a difference between showing the Bond girls tits and having a love scene that lasts more than five seconds and is sexier than just seeing Bond walking into the shower, kissing her then the camera quickly cutting away. The bit at the start of TND with the Danish girl was sexier than any of the sex scenes in SF.

    And like I said, there's only one proper Bond girl and she gets just a few minutes screentime so we don't really have any eye candy for the majority of the film either. I miss the good old days when Bond had a fit girl in a skimpy outfit helping him stop the bad guy rather than Judi Dench.

    Name me one Bond film where we actually see him properly on the job?

    95% of the time it's either pre or post coitus.

    The only ones that really spring to mind are 'he's attempting re-entry' and Jinx on top of him.

    Yeah but normally the pre or post sex scenes last longer than a few seconds and don't just consist of Bond walking up to the girl in the shower and kissing her.

    I think you maybe watching a different series of films to me:

    Sylvia Trench - Bond walks up to her, kisses her, cut.

    Miss Taro - they have a bit of banter pre and post a kiss but it's not a much longer scene.

    Honey - Bond kisses her in the boat, the end.

    Sylvia - Bond kisses her in the boat, the pager beeps, cut.

    Tatiana - Some quite sexy foreplay before they get down to it. But given this is is probably the sexiest scene in the series it is a bit of an exception.

    Jill - Bond ruins Goldfinger's card scam, Bond kisses her, she gets covered in gold paint.

    Pussy - They have a play fight and then Bond kisses/forces himself on her.

    Pat - Bond kisses/forces himself on her, cut.

    Fiona - Bond kisses her, they talk about the Junkanoo in bed.

    Domino - Bond swims up to her and they go behind a rock, cut.

    Ling - Bond kisses her, she folds the bed up and the men come in.

    Aki - Bond kisses her, cut.

    Helga - She cuts Bond free, he kisses her, cut.

    Kissy - Bond kisses her on the mountain, helicopter flies past, cut. Bond kisses her in the dinghy, M's submarine surfaces, the end.

    Tracy - they talk a lot before the kissing starts but given Bond ends up marrying her she can't really be dispensed with by the usual 'kiss then cut' technique.

    Ruby - Bond takes his kilt off, kisses her, cut.

    Nancy - Bond kisses her, cut.

    Plenty - Bond kisses her, she gets throw out of the window.

    Tiffany - They just chat in bed then cut to the circus. Bond kisses her on that aquarium bed, cut.

    Miss Caruso - Bond kisses her, unzips her dress, cut.

    Solitaire - Bond rigs the pack, kisses her, cut.

    Do I really need to carry on with this?

    I fail to understand what you are complaining about. The scene with Severine seems fairly representative of sex scenes in Bond. Your chief gripe seems to be its duration but how are the scenes with say Sylvia or Miss Caruso any different? They exchange a few words, kiss, cut.

    If you are complaining that Severine is killed off to quickly then fair enough but I find it rather bemusing that you are focussing on the sex scene as being deficient as if the average Bond film is Basic Instinct.

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    With regards to Joanne Froggat? Lets not do a craignot bond number on her? That's even if she gets a part.

    My hope is for Lara Pulver! I think she certainly has the pulling power to play a British female leading lady for a Bond film! Especially with her performances in Sherlock!
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
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    Not Bond material. Not at all!

    Relax, guys. Joanne Froggatt is not Bond girl material, but if she is cast, who knows what character she will be playing.

    Speaking of Bond girl material, was Hayley Atwell mentioned earlier? I'm just watching her in The Pillars of the Earth, and she's definitely good-looking and age appropriate.

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  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited September 2014 Posts: 12,480
    I'm happy someone mentioned Rachel McAdams; she is very lovely and a really good actress. Although I thoroughly enjoyed Lara on Sherlock, she is not high up on my list as a main Bond girl (her look just doesn't fit for me). I still want Kate Winslet, like that will happen. Or Jennifer Connelly (still hoping) or even Kate Beckinsale. Rachel would be a stronger choice; just my opinion. But she is Canadian, I think. Sigh ...

    Anyway, I understand @thelivingroyale's point, and I agree with him, although I am not as strongly disappointed as he is. The prelude and post sex sessions with Bond in the past have been a least a bit longer than what we had in Skyfall (which gave us a few seconds). So yes, he is correct. Especially when looking at the main Bond girl and Bond. And in other Bond films, Bond had some romantic or warm moment with the main Bond girl aside from the actual sexual act. TLD is of course the best example, being the one Bond film that really gives us a believable romance that we saw develop on screen (along with Casino Royale and its tragic one).

    I definitely would have liked a little longer scenes in Skyfall, but I find the film to be excellent overall so it does not really bug me. But yes, the scene Bond had with Prof. Ingstrom (not even a main Bond girl) in the beginning of TND was warmer, longer, and fun. I'd like more of that, too, please. :)

  • Zekidk wrote: »
    @Zekidk Ghost Protocol had a lower budget than Skyfall? Really? That's surprised me, I wouldn't have guessed that. Makes me wonder what exactly they spent all that money on in SF.

    Ghost Protocol: Budget: 145 million $.
    Skyfall: Budget: 200 million $.

    And yes... Ghost Protocol looks more "expensive."

    The definition of "the money's up on the screen" has changed.

    With Skyfall, some examples of when the money was up on the screen:

    --Daniel Craig is talking to Judi Dench.

    --Judi Dench is talking to Ralph Fiennes.

    --Ralph Fiennes is talking to Daniel Craig and Judi Dench

    --Javier Bardem is talking to Daniel Craig

    --Javier Bardem is talking to Daniel Craig and Judi Dench

    Etc., etc. You want more accomplished actors, that means the budget for actors goes up. Bernard Lee, Lois Maxwell, Desmond Llewelyn, even on an inflation-adjusted basis, weren't paid that well.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Good point, @AlexanderWaverly.
  • Good point, @AlexanderWaverly.

    Yeah, good point, but still the wrong way to spend the money!
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Forster 's mismanagement of the budget for QoS shouldn't have spooked Eon as much as it did. As an audience aware of what the budget was, we can clearly see it wasn't used effectively. Shooting on location and accommodating all the costs that came with it only for said locations to have a fleeting and scarce impact in addition to all that was edited and cut out was poor irrespective of there having been a writer's strike.
    Forster would have pitched his 'like a bullet' idea to the producers and they should have put things into perspective if such an approach was going to be used. There; s no point going to and shooting on location in all these places that's going to cost so much money and worse yet, we're hardly going to immerse ourselves in it.

    Anyway, with SF a money - making success and the biggest movie in UK history, Eon better not get cheap on us again....with the production values. If we're sending Bond to 3 locations; Austria, Rome and Morocco let's see, feel, smell and taste them!
  • edited September 2014 Posts: 3,276
    Zekidk wrote: »
    @Zekidk Ghost Protocol had a lower budget than Skyfall? Really? That's surprised me, I wouldn't have guessed that. Makes me wonder what exactly they spent all that money on in SF.

    Ghost Protocol: Budget: 145 million $.
    Skyfall: Budget: 200 million $.

    And yes... Ghost Protocol looks more "expensive."

    The definition of "the money's up on the screen" has changed.

    With Skyfall, some examples of when the money was up on the screen:

    --Daniel Craig is talking to Judi Dench.

    --Judi Dench is talking to Ralph Fiennes.

    Etc., etc. You want more accomplished actors, that means the budget for actors goes up.

    Oh... so the 50 mio difference is due to the added cost of using Bardem, Fiennes and Dench? Trust me.... Tom Cruise and Jeremy Renner doesn't come that cheap!

    Actually I think more money was put into pre-production and advertising in SF, than GP.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    GP barely got any acknowledge meant on photography or production dedign.by critics or audiences. To me it looks a step down from previous MI and from SF. Sorry but really just seems like a bias against SF and Bond ....I liked MIGPbut it didn't look more expensive at all.

    Only time Bond looked B movie cheap was in the 80d and especially the Dalton films. And sometimes that sub locations due to safety not just money. Would you really want to film in Afghanistan?
  • mcdonbb wrote: »
    GP barely got any acknowledge meant on photography or production dedign.by critics or audiences. To me it looks a step down from previous MI and from SF. Sorry but really just seems like a bias against SF and Bond ....I liked MIGPbut it didn't look more expensive at all.

    Only time Bond looked B movie cheap was in the 80d and especially the Dalton films. And sometimes that sub locations due to safety not just money. Would you really want to film in Afghanistan?

    For me, GP lacked intelligence. Theme-wise it wasn't as multilayered as SF. GP was a great fun ride. But as fun as the Brosnan films: Great formula being done again, without too much intelligence and re-watch-value. But GP wasn't as trendsetting in 2011/2012 as SF.

    Add up the bigger status and bigger names of cast and crew (many more with Oscar noms and wins behind their belts), and GP kind of pales next to SF. I'm pretty certain Roger Deakins would not have signed up with GP given the plot/story. In any case, for such names you usually need to pay more.

    SF overrated? I don't think think so. GP overrated. No. But both movies are rated for what they are. Hence the different production budgets. In short: Bond is simply better hehe.

  • RC7RC7
    edited September 2014 Posts: 10,512
    GP and SF are two different beasts. GP is the 'Bond' film some people want, while SF is the 'Bond' film others want. Personally, I don't think Bond can go down the GP road without seeming frivolous and potentially cliched. I thought GP was brilliant fun, but if I'm being honest, right now I'm keen to see a more Fleming-esque incarnation that the standard movie incarnation of 007. I'm a little worried that B24 may fall between the two stools. However, I will remain optimistic.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    IF this is REAL news, then it is BIG news... @-)

    http://www.liveforfilms.com/2014/09/22/will-bond-24-begin-filming-this-october-in-liverpool-and-manchester/

    Filming in Liverpool and Manchester!!??
  • Pajan005Pajan005 Stockholm, Sweden
    Posts: 432
    ggl007 wrote: »
    IF this is REAL news, then it is BIG news... @-)

    http://www.liveforfilms.com/2014/09/22/will-bond-24-begin-filming-this-october-in-liverpool-and-manchester/

    Filming in Liverpool and Manchester!!??

    Seems a bit unlikely. Casting isn't done yet and the read through was set to November. Would be a bit to soon to move start date two moths earlier from December.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    Hmm. Peripheral filming perhaps.
  • ggl007 wrote: »
    IF this is REAL news, then it is BIG news... @-)

    http://www.liveforfilms.com/2014/09/22/will-bond-24-begin-filming-this-october-in-liverpool-and-manchester/

    Filming in Liverpool and Manchester!!??

    Hmmm, perhaps certain "spy-and-research" scenes can be filmed there :-). Just like Bond visiting London for a meeting with Hillary Bray at the Coat of Arms or spying on stuff on Gumbold's office in Zürich.

    So perhaps Bond's initial search will indeed bring him too some less tropical "vacation" spots like Mancjester and Liverpool :-). Who knows....
  • Posts: 4,619
    No way this is Bond 24.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    We have TWO different calls for the same movie...
    If some British friends want to go, please share... ;) :D

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  • RC7RC7
    edited September 2014 Posts: 10,512
    As much as I'd like to see Bond in my home town of Manchester, I suspect this is a casting call for Logan's film 'Genius'. The film is something to do with an employee of 'Scribner's' a NYC base publishers. Both Manchester and Liverpool have doubled for period-NYC before, most recently in Captain America.
  • http://www.thewrap.com/jude-law-play-thomas-wolfe-alongside-colin-firth-nicole-kidman-genius/

    This article confirms 'Genius' is to begin filming in the UK on October 13, so the casting call for extras has nothing to do with Bond 24.
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