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We've had some strong henchmen in the past( Odd job, Tee Hee) but they should never overshadow the main villain.
As I already tried to say. Thanks man :-).
That isn't what he said. He was explaining that he has a vested interest in Elba's work and thus understands that he has the tools needed to deliver as a Bond villain.
As far as a black actor goes for Bond 24, could Denzel be in the running? He has nothing lined up currently according to IMDB. He looked an awful lot like Blofeld in The Equaliser.
@Guatav You say Elba wouldn't make a good Bond villain because he's done too many "nice" roles but then you just list some recent blockbuster movies you've seen him in as evidence of this. His most famous role, and I think his best performance, was Stinger Bell in The Wire. And he was not a nice guy.
Elba could play a great villain. He's a brilliant actor with lots of intensity and charisma who would play off Craig well. In fact I think the only problem with casting him is that he might actually end up outshining Craig.
Also, who says villains have to look ugly? It helps sure but it's not a requirement and I think it's stupid to write off Efijor and now Elba because of this.
Take Leonardo Dicaprio in Django. He's good looking, he's a pretty boy even. But he was a brilliant twisted, psychotic villain.
That's not what I said or am saying. You said he doesn't look like villain - material as he looks too handsome and soft and you backed up your opinions by listing a few movies he's done that hardly champions his diversity and full body of work where he's proven contrary to your assumptions.
It was an argument to dispute your assumptions that you drew from a lack of exposure to his personal and professional experiences as a whole. Him being from the same place I grew up as a kid has nothing to do with him being applicable to be a villain in a Bond film; that would just be silly no? I have more of an interest to follow his career than some so I'm a bit more privy to what he's able to demonstrate compared to someone who hasn't seen that much of his work comparatively speaking.
You should it was/is a great show.
Precisely and thank you.
Two points to add up here: Idris Elba could and di play villainous roles in the past. If only for Stringer Bell, he certainly qualifies for Bond villain potential.
As for his beauty, I guess he is handsome, but in a virile way. He does look imposing and menacing. Bell had charisma and was certainly depicted as an attractive man able to charm the ladies, but he was also menacing and had an imposing presence. That said, just like Javier Bardem, another handsome man, Elba could easily be "uglified". And as I said, he looks far more threatening than Ejiofor from the get go.
And just for kicks and for all the people skeptical about Elba playing a villain, here is a clip from The Wire taken what? ten years ago? When he did not have the maturity he has now:
Well, if you won't bother going back a couple of pages, you will never find out.
"Vested interest". It still is a certain interest. I don't have any "vested interest" in Christoph Waltz or Helen Mirren. Experience in someone's actor's work is not good enough for me. For my part you can write a thesis about Idris Elba. And I'm always interested to read that.
But.....that's not how it works I think. In the end it's about the acting skills in a film. And moreover, if a lot of people are thoroughly entertained by an actor. It's what "Cubby" once said to Lazenby: "You're not a star because you say you're a star, you're not a star because I say you're a star. You're a star when the big audience accepts you as a star. And that's something we still have to see!".
With this line in mind I can not help but saying that an actor like Waltz thoroughly entertained audiences with his roles.....on numerous occadions. With Elba that's the case too. Just, for me personally, not to an extent that Waltz has already shown.
I can only talk about movies I have seen. And even if my expertise about a certain actor extends to more than just a thoroughly entertaining performance, I will not let that prevail my arguments on why a certain actor should be chosen to be the next Bond villain. For me personally, Elba just doesn't do it for me yet.
Really shocked that we have no further news to discuss still, but in having said that? After the farce of the film title being blown last time around? I am not surprised that EON are keeping tight lipped for now.
Have said before and I will say it again! Lets hope for something new tomorrow? ;) :))
You've a real skill for saying a lot while saying not very much at all.
Well, that's why I told you before....let's chat on Skype one of these days. I told you before that sometimes it works better to make a point when seeing each/hearing each other. Forum sometimes becomes too much a matter of acting/reacting.
But then....I didn't have a response via PM yet from you. I guess you prefer let me "struggle" this way, so you can reduce my contributions to complete "nothing-ness".
So all I can say.....try harder to get my point.
I get your point and it is largely pointless. Hence the idea of saying a lot, yet nothing at all.
Finish your Felix Leiter TV series soon?
Have you been drinking Gustav? You need some sleep.
I just came back from the cinema watching "A Most Wanted Man", which I thoroughly enjoyed.
Good stuff, let's knock this on the head then, for the good of everyone.
What do you mean by that...
Ok, time to sleep I-)
I had already.
Here's an excerpt (the title says Stringer Bell, but it's not from the Wire at all, it's from Ultraviolet).