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For every good idea a fan makes there's at least half a dozen infinitely bad ones.
Is this Butterworth guy for real?
"Bond doesn’t have scenes with other men. Bond shoots other men—he doesn’t sit around chatting to them. So you put a line through that."
Christ almighty. Who are these people? Has he actually watched a Bond movie? Ever?
I've stayed clear of this thread for fear of spoilers, but was intrigued to find out who the new writer was. Wish I hadn't now. Dear oh dear.
That's probably not a bad way of going about things to be fair, @Birdleson (it has the benefits of keeping everyone happy!) and may I second your hope to see a faithful version of Colonel Sun regardless of how unlikely it actually is. :(
Bond and Dr.No at the dinner table
Bond exchanging words with Grant
Every encounter Bond had with GF
Bond winding up Large at the Casino not to mention when he visits him at his home
The list goes on and on...
Exactly.
You might underline something to indicate it's good or needs work, but if you put a line through it, that means it's got to go.
I don't mind multiple people working on the script, but I just wish some of what they said was reassuring.
And, for the record, I do find the quiet moments in Bond movies not only important, but essential, and often very enjoyable. They can make or break a movie; TND and QOS for instance suffered from a lack of them (and I like QOS).
People tend to forget that movies through the past 10 years in general have become quite more realistic. I think it has something to do with a combination of 9/11 (it made us wake up in our real world) and social media (we all are our own little dictator). People still wanna get entertained. But they have become also way more critical; cinema visitors are not stupid anymore. (Over-)Analyzing has become part of our nature. Perhaps that's why the general audience buys realistic drama slightly more than popcorn-action?
Ah well, perhaps I'm talking nonsense. I was thinking of the success of Nolan's films, "Gravity" and a few others, including Bond. But then there's also "Transformers" and "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles".
I don't see, how this is an answer to my post, GG.
http://www.theartsdesk.com/theatre/theartsdesk-qa-playwright-jez-butterworth
http://charlieehay.ideastap.com/Media/774ba68f-4299-4913-b9da-a14100e72075/welcome-to-my-opinion/jez-butterworth-masterclass
It's likely his work on Bond 24 will be similar to his work on Skyfall and he's just there to work on the script for a few weeks.
He's also recently had his play 'Mojo' play in the West End in London starring Skyfall and Bond 24's very own Q, Ben Whishaw:
Absolutely. They are what mark Bond apart from the general clamour of action nonsense. For what it's worth I actually thought QoS had several quite enjoyable little quieter scenes (Bond with Mathis, Felix, Greene and of course the ending) in there amongst the frantic action.
I once heard the rumor that Mathis was supposed to tell essentially Flemings original QoS Shortstory during the Airplane Lounge Scene while Bond was brooding over his Martinis. I always thought this was a splendid idea, but obviously Mr Forster didn't share my opinion, though for the life of me I will never get why. Probably didn't suit his "fast as a bullet" vision.
This is one of the reasons, why I would prefer them to get able and professional directors instead of "geniuses" on the ego trip and why I would want Nolan to mind his own business and leave Bond alone.
I see where you're coming from. I like the idea of an extended Mathis storytelling scene, although the initial meeting in Italy is also nice, as is the existing plane sequence. But a little more meat on the bones would certainly not have done QoS any harm.
Nolan is a difficult one for me. I am not his biggest fan (Batman didn't really do it for me - much prefer the Keaton/Burton/Nicholson version) but I don't want a return to the Brosnan era with really not very good directors taking a turn with every film. Those Brosnan films were so depressing. Just uninspired on every conceivable level. I actually prefer a high quality of bad, like SF, than I would a return to DAD or TWINE. So Nolan might not be perfect, but at least you'd have some idea of what you'd be getting and know that some genuine thought and passion had gone into the movie.
But you are right - there must be a happy medium. A good, proven action-thriller director, without too much ego who is willing and able to sign on for three or four films and give a bit of consistency. Who knows, may be Nolan could turn out to be just what Bond needs.
Oh there were some quiet moments, but not enough of them. The movie would have benefited from an extra 10 minutes.
Agreed. A little space for the story (which I think is better than some make out) to breath would have done wonders. And it could have still kept its generally nippy pacing.
That is sort of my take on the writing process. It's reassuring hearing that from someone in the business; thanks, @ColonelSun.
Thanks to Germanlady for your news tidbits; you always have good findings - you do have eyes everywhere! :)
Mulling over the music possible news - that is all interesting. Very. I'm picturing Adele singing the title song, with other artists' work throughout the film perhaps.
I agree and I feel its very likely to happen. And the movie won't bomb at all it would probably do very very well
Just my feeling you don't have to agree.
Good God. More bad news. Sounds like all the dialogue and character driven scenes are being flushed down the toilet in favour for action, action and more action. These films will never change. Action is fine and is part of Bond but why they won't take a little time out for some decent dialogue driven scenes is beyond me. They'll never change. So, now we have Moneypenny back in the field, what sounds like more humour than in SF and CR, unnecessary throwaway lines and now this. Not looking good. What Newman had said before most of his stuff was probably re-written in favour of endless, pointless acton, was encouraging. He was all for further developing Bond's character. Now however, I just can't see this happening. Just more of the same. I don't know why I bother actually thinking that we might get something a little different for once.