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  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited November 2014 Posts: 4,399
    Ludovico wrote: »
    but even then, when someone comes back to haunt you after fifteen years, he's your nemesis, plain and simple.

    not necessarily.... take Batman for instance, the character HUSH is as exactly what you described in the quote above - but he's far from batman's nemesis...

    to me, there is a difference between a villain and a nemesis... by definition, a nemesis is something that a person cannot conquer, or, an opponent or rival that person cannot best or overcome... in the world of heroes and villains - yes, a hero's nemesis can and is often times defeated - but it's usually after a lot of hardship and numerous failed attempts by the hero to do so.... Blofeld is Bond's nemesis (to a degree)... Moriarty is Holmes' nemesis... Kahn is not Kirk's nemesis (maybe when it's flipped, that Kirk is Kahn's nemesis it works - but it never works both ways) no one is considered someone's nemesis if they are always defeated or easily thwarted... or in this case when we are talking about film - i don't think one off villains can be a nemesis - a more memorable tough as balls villain? yes... but it really takes a lot to earn that title of nemesis.
  • Posts: 2,402
    Matt_Helm wrote: »
    Matt_Helm wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    @Colonel - maybe don't try to spoil the fun Helm has with his ever lasting negativity. ;) He has proved, its to no avail and I don't like to see you good will and knowledge wasted on someone, who wouldn't know, how to deal with something positive, if it bit him in the ***. I consider him a member, we have to deal with, but whom you shouldn't take serious anymore or answer to. He is what he is. A person, wo loves negativity so much, can't possibly be a happy person in real life and for that, I pity him.

    I see the "hormones on rampage" tour has been prolonged.
    What you should see is,that what you call negativity I call applying and demanding at least a tiny bit of logic for my money,especially in a spy story. Obviously to you the only possible explanation for such an abnormal demanding behaviour is a dour and joyless life, to others it's the existence of intellect. ;)

    What gives you any bloody right to speak to someone that way? I'm not going to say what's properly on my mind about you because I'd likely get banned. Kudos to the staff here for the amount of patience they must have keeping you on these forums.

    I'm not going to say anything more about this because I don't want to take away from the Bond 24 discussion further. I'll just ask again who the hell you think you are to say something like that to someone else.

    When someone is on the record for watching Bond films because of Craig (not caring for those made before and probably after )and still dares criticising other peoples reasoning and arguments as product of being all negative and living a joyless life,well, I know where he or she is coming from.
    And she or you can love SF as much as you want,but whoever is denying,that it lacks any kind of logical development and is a prime example of volatile writing, is a lier or has no business whatsoever watching spy movies ( save Austin Powers that is). Also, if someone must be able to take it it is German lady. She and a guy called Jet Set Willy where the reason why I joined this forum over a year ago, because they were viciously throwing their weight into anyone who dared to say,that Skyfall might not be completely perfect.

    You really need to stop speaking. Unless your goal is to make yourself look worse with every comment you make?
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    Posts: 4,399
    Matt_Helm wrote: »
    When someone is on the record for watching Bond films because of Craig (not caring for those made before and probably after )and still dares criticising other peoples reasoning and arguments as product of being all negative and living a joyless life,well, I know where he or she is coming from.
    And she or you can love SF as much as you want,but whoever is denying,that it lacks any kind of logical development and is a prime example of volatile writing, is a lier or has no business whatsoever watching spy movies ( save Austin Powers that is). Also, if someone must be able to take it it is German lady. She and a guy called Jet Set Willy where the reason why I joined this forum over a year ago, because they were viciously throwing their weight into anyone who dared to say,that Skyfall might not be completely perfect.

    so you joined a forum, just to piss on someone's parade?... why bother joining at all - or even staying?

    i've known @Germanlady for a while on these forums, and i've never experienced her "throwing her weight around" as you say..... you just sound like someone who loves to be pissed off, and will do anything you can to make others just as miserable.
  • edited November 2014 Posts: 3,276
    Don't know if it means anything, but Jesper Christensen (Mr.White - the villain that got away in both CR and QoS) was seen boarding a plane for London yesterday, by a friend of mine who works at the airport.
  • Posts: 2,402
    HASEROT wrote: »
    Matt_Helm wrote: »
    When someone is on the record for watching Bond films because of Craig (not caring for those made before and probably after )and still dares criticising other peoples reasoning and arguments as product of being all negative and living a joyless life,well, I know where he or she is coming from.
    And she or you can love SF as much as you want,but whoever is denying,that it lacks any kind of logical development and is a prime example of volatile writing, is a lier or has no business whatsoever watching spy movies ( save Austin Powers that is). Also, if someone must be able to take it it is German lady. She and a guy called Jet Set Willy where the reason why I joined this forum over a year ago, because they were viciously throwing their weight into anyone who dared to say,that Skyfall might not be completely perfect.

    so you joined a forum, just to piss on someone's parade?... why bother joining at all - or even staying?

    i've known @Germanlady for a while on these forums, and i've never experienced her "throwing her weight around" as you say..... you just sound like someone who loves to be pissed off, and will do anything you can to make others just as miserable.

    Sorry this is unrelated but OH GOD WHY DID YOU CHOOSE THAT AVATAR
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Yet ... he has mentioned in the past he did not want to return to a Bond film.
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    he has mentioned in the past he did not want to return to a Bond film.

    ...and he won't. Why would Academy Award winning director Sam Mendes who directed one of the most critically acclaimed and most financially succesful Bond film of all time just two years ago want to continue the story line from a movie that made half of the money Skyfall did and was far from being a critical success story?

    Think of Bond 24 as a Sam Mendes film and you will see why there is NO WAY Quantum will be return this time. (Obviously anything can happen and I can't be 100% sure about this, but...)
  • Posts: 15,125
    Murdock wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Khan was never really Kirk's nemesis either. He was a one off villain in Star Trek the original series. Then 15 years later shows up because of the convenience of the USS reliant mistaking Ceti Alpha 5 for Ceti Alpha 6. When Khan took it over he went looking for Kirk for revenge. Kirk was never thinking about him until he saw him on the view screen. Khan's an iconic villain, but he was never Kirk's Moriarty or Blofeld.

    Khan was promoted into Kirk's nemesis with the movie Star Trek. Maybe to be more precise I should say that Kirk was Khan's nemesis, but even then, when someone comes back to haunt you after fifteen years, he's your nemesis, plain and simple. There are different kinds of nemesis. Moriarty was invented as the ultimate enemy for Holmes just so Holmes could be killed.

    Not necessarily. If someone I had a school fight with showed up 15 years later to harass me that doesn't make him my nemesis. He'd be more like an inconvenience.

    I meant in the context of fiction and in particular to Khan/Kirk. Khan is actually one example of a villain promoted into the role of a nemesis. Like Moriarty, actually.
    HASEROT wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    but even then, when someone comes back to haunt you after fifteen years, he's your nemesis, plain and simple.

    not necessarily.... take Batman for instance, the character HUSH is as exactly what you described in the quote above - but he's far from batman's nemesis...

    to me, there is a difference between a villain and a nemesis... by definition, a nemesis is something that a person cannot conquer, or, an opponent or rival that person cannot best or overcome... in the world of heroes and villains - yes, a hero's nemesis can and is often times defeated - but it's usually after a lot of hardship and numerous failed attempts by the hero to do so.... Blofeld is Bond's nemesis (to a degree)... Moriarty is Holmes' nemesis... Kahn is not Kirk's nemesis (maybe when it's flipped, that Kirk is Kahn's nemesis it works - but it never works both ways) no one is considered someone's nemesis if they are always defeated or easily thwarted... or in this case when we are talking about film - i don't think one off villains can be a nemesis - a more memorable tough as balls villain? yes... but it really takes a lot to earn that title of nemesis.

    Batman has at least one nemesis though, in the Joker, already established. Hush is more like a villain who has Batman as nemesis. The definition of nemesis is a floating one. It often implies a certain resilience and some personal emotional involvement from one antagonist party, or both.
  • edited November 2014 Posts: 2,015
    RC7 wrote: »
    I thought so, I was just checking I hadn't missed anything else; all the articles I've read
    cite The Mail on Sunday (as you mention). I guess we'll see what happens.

    Well let's try to list what hints at Blofeld being back so far, IMO, there are mostly two pieces of information, but I think they are far from minor.

    - Logan's "Bond should always fight Blofeld" comment when he was still in the Bond 24 process.

    - Mendes likes iconic moments, and was very happy with the audience's reaction to the DB5 appearance in Skyfall.

    Now, what other very well known icons from past Bond movies are there to show in a Bond movie ? A golden girl ? QOS spoiled it. A laser and a table ? Hm.. shades of DAD. A parachute jump stunt for real, not CG ? ... Oh wait :)

  • Posts: 9,847
    Zekidk wrote: »
    Don't know if it means anything, but Jesper Christensen (Mr.White - the villain that got away in both CR and QoS) was seen boarding a plane for London yesterday, by a friend of mine who works at the airport.

    IF (which this is a big if I am aware) but IF this is true and elements of the Daily Mail Article are true then Mendes Is calming 3 of my 4 fears about bond 24.

    the fears

    1. More gray lack of warm\cold locations
    the answer with Morcco Italy and Austria confirmed I think this all but proves Bond 24 will be a bright and vibrant film color wise.
    2. No Quantum
    If Christensen is indeed going to london for Bond then this proves Quantum is back and hopefully will be bigger then ever
    3. No Fleming character lack of Fleming elements so obvious in Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace
    Well if Obehauser is coming into play that definitly changes things and there is a chance elements of Octopussy and Risico will be in the story all of this sort of calms this fear
    4. No Fleming title
    This remains to be seen the fact is we have had NO title rumors with any sense of credibility this time around which is interesting but frustrating...

    Someone and I foget who told me when Mendes was announced for Bond 24 "Relax even if you don't love Skyfall Mendes never does the same kind of film twice so I am postive Bond 24 will be very different and I think you will ike it better" whoever you are your so far right on the money.
  • edited November 2014 Posts: 3,276
    he has mentioned in the past he did not want to return to a Bond film.

    ...and he won't. Why would Academy Award winning director Sam Mendes who directed one of the most critically acclaimed and most financially succesful Bond film of all time just two years ago want to continue the story line from a movie that made half of the money Skyfall did and was far from being a critical success story?
    Yes, CR made only half at the Box Office. So by leaving out Quantum SF could make twice as much?
    Think of Bond 24 as a Sam Mendes film and you will see why there is NO WAY Quantum will be return this time. (Obviously anything can happen and I can't be 100% sure about this, but...)
    Well, same thing could be said about Blofeld/SPECTRE, then! Why on earth would he resurrect SPECTRE, when there are still loose ends when it comes to Quantum in these reboots? Okay, they've disregarded much when it came to the first 20 when they made CR. I get that. But disregarding events in 21 and 22, that built the character, when doing 24 because they want to dig up some terrororganisation lost in the sixties? I mean... REALLY?
  • ColonelSun wrote: »
    Matt_Helm wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Matt_Helm wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    I think one of the issues people have with the Bond movies' output frequency is, sure, these movies are huge undertaking but you'd think with all that time, the overall product would be better and that's not an unreasonable expectation to have.

    CR and SF achieved huge box office as well as stacks of critical praise. For me they are both fantastic films - and I also think, despite flaws, QOS is very good as well.

    The point is, we all have our own personal likes and dislikes. Some love CR and/or QOS or SF, others don't. Everyone has different tastes. This is the difficultly with filmmaking - or storytelling in general - you simply can't please ALL the people ALL the time.

    But Eon work very hard to make popular films, whilst still trying to find new angles for their 50 year old franchise. The recent box office and critical success (beating the Brosnan era which did seem to get a bit lost in the end, hence the Craig re-boot) shows Eon are (mostly) getting it right with the Craig films in terms of appealing to a very large international audience and film critics, many of whom had written Bond off years ago.

    I wonder if for you ANYTHING Eon does is less than perfection? Each and everyone of your posts is really nothing but praise, never even the slightest trace of criticism to be found, doesn't matter if production values and timing,story development,originality,whatever.
    Just asking ...

    I've never said perfection, but I do have first hand experience of working with them, so that does make a difference. And I know how they operate even to this day. I do have huge respect for Eon, particularly because I've seen and experienced how some other producers or production companies behave or work. So yes, I am a supporter, but I'm also trying to convey the difficulties all producers, writers, directors etc. face when trying to make big budget films for mass appeal; it ain't easy -- and Eon's record shows they are very successful at doing this. Who can disrespect that?
    I can absolutely understand your sympathies with the folks of Eon (they are probably very likeable people,I don't have any doubt about it), but especially as a professional writer you should be able to discern between your likings and the finished product. You see I didn't become a bond fan because I'm a fanatic nitpicker, yet I find I deserve better than such a volatile written story in which absolutely nothing makes sense! For you as someone who earns his living with writing this should be a complete insult for your profession.
    Concerning respect - well, their track record of constant delays,rewrites and absence of a coherent vision of 007 (as shown in the zigzag course the rebooted Bond alone has taken in only three movies) suggests to me, that they are probably not the most able producers ever to walk the face of earth. Sorry,but that's how I feel about it.

    What track record of constant delays and re-writes? (Re-writes are just part of any normal process in ALL filmmaking and TV production.) Eon are presently on schedule - so what delays are u talking about? 3 or 4 weeks from the original PP date? That's nothing in filmmaking - studio pics and even indie films (with no release dates) frequently move back for various reasons. So can you please tell all of us here when have Eon ever failed to deliver the finished film on time for the slated release date? What track record are you talking about? Or are you just shooting from the hip?

    Re: your comment directed at me and my profession, well, I have made it clear I really like the Craig era, and therefore I respect what Eon are doing right now and how they are exploring the central character.

    CR is tops for me. I love the script and the finished film. And I also think there is some wonderful writing and filmmaking in SF - plus great casting, acting, and very sure footed direction from Mendes. I say this as a professional writer, a director, and a producer, but it's still just my personal opinion regardless of my experience or my profession.

    You are fully entitled to your opinion, although I will say that to suggest (as you do) that the producers are not the most able to ever walk this earth is purely your opinion which (correctly me if I'm wrong) is not based on any actual personal knowledge, solid evidence, or any experience of the producers and/or how they work. I however, do have that personal and professional experience, so obviously I feel I might have a better understanding of how they operate than you do. I think that is fair to say. Don't you?

    Even though I find it hard to contemplate, that someone who earns his money writing scripts doesn't have an appreciation for a logical story development I certainly will have to accept your opinion, but I would for sure like to know,for what movies you have supplied the script. ( I guess you won't tell me,but still...)
    About the delays and rewrite issue - QoS had delayed filming and therefore a very hectic editing phase because they weren't able to tell the director he should stay true to the script they had managed to secure before the writers strike (and which they seemingly had approved before). This time they had an extra production year because they committed themselves to Mendes and voila: two month before
    the filming starts they discover,that the script is so weak they have to get P&W back and a third guy shortly later. Didn't they find the time to at least once read through the script in all the 12 month they had waiting for Mendes?
    I also don't have to know them personally to know that they lack what makes a great producer i.e. a vision about their product. The fact alone that they allowed Tamaori to make a 180 turn right in the middle of DAD, Forster to edit the film much too rushed and Bourne like (with the side effect of cutting probably a 100 millions worth of looks and scenery) and Mendes to change just about everything in the script to his liking ( even bringing the GF DB5 back,which spits in the face of the whole reboot thing) is ample proof of that.
  • RC7RC7
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    RC7 wrote: »
    I thought so, I was just checking I hadn't missed anything else; all the articles I've read
    cite The Mail on Sunday (as you mention). I guess we'll see what happens.

    Well let's try to list what hints at Blofeld being back so far, IMO, there are mostly two pieces of information, but I think they are far from minor.

    - Logan's "Bond should always fight Blofeld" comment when he was still in the Bond 24 process.

    - Mendes likes iconic moments, and was very happy with the audience's reaction to the DB5 appearance in Skyfall.

    Now, what other very well known icons from past Bond movies are there to show in a Bond movie ? A parachute jump ? ... Oh wait :)

    Ha ha. I have to say, when I read about the parachute jump my immediate reaction was - Jump + Mendes = Union Jack. I certainly see your angle and I also think you might be right that Mendes would not necessarily dispense with the traits of the cinematic Blofeld, such as the cat. It certainly wouldn't surprise me.
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    Maybe Blofeld is the true head of Quantum? And it is basically the modern day Spectre? I really don't know... I have a lot of theories at the moment about it.
  • edited November 2014 Posts: 2,015
    RC7 wrote: »
    Ha ha. I have to say, when I read about the parachute jump my immediate reaction was - Jump + Mendes = Union Jack. I certainly see your angle and I also think you might be right that Mendes would not necessarily dispense with the traits of the cinematic Blofeld, such as the cat. It certainly wouldn't surprise me.

    I know it's getting more and more rare to talk about any Bond pre-CR in this thread, but it's fun to re-watch Blofeld's first appearance, in YOLT. Guess what : Hans, his bodybuild henchman hides him from Bond's view for a moment. You can see Hans moving to put himself in front of Blofeld when Bond enters the room so Blofeld is hidden. You can imagine Bautista there. Hans.. Hinx... Mendes is not afraid to use a mute henchman, isn't he ? :)

    Folks, this is just "fun" speculation, not a "I'm sure that" moment (moreover, Guardians of the Galaxy has proven that Bautista can deliver funny lines, having him mute could be a pity in the end)

    [What's the most boring here alas is that you'll have some comments that Mendes would NEVER use the Union Jack, or that he'll NEVER use the cat, etc... As if Mendes was not good enough to manage to pull it off, as if he was some run-of-the-mill action director...]
  • Posts: 15,125
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Maybe Blofeld is the true head of Quantum? And it is basically the modern day Spectre? I really don't know... I have a lot of theories at the moment about it.

    In the novels, Blofeld founded different networks before creating SPECTRE and he also took over members of disbanded organizations, such as SMERSH, to create it.
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    Zekidk wrote: »
    Well, same thing could be said about Blofeld/SPECTRE, then!

    It's not the same thing at all. Quantum in Bond 24 = a continuation of the story from QOS. SPECTRE in Bond 24 = a reboot of the organization. Spectre in Bond 24 would be like the DB5 with the gadgets or the new M's office in Skyfall.

    Zekidk wrote: »
    Why on earth would he resurrect SPECTRE, when there are still loose ends when it comes to Quantum in these reboots?
    Because SPECTRE is at least somewhat iconic and only a handful of anal retentive fans care about Quantum. 99% of the people who will watch Bond 24 in the cinemas could not care lass about that organization.
  • Ludovico wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Khan was never really Kirk's nemesis either. He was a one off villain in Star Trek the original series. Then 15 years later shows up because of the convenience of the USS reliant mistaking Ceti Alpha 5 for Ceti Alpha 6. When Khan took it over he went looking for Kirk for revenge. Kirk was never thinking about him until he saw him on the view screen. Khan's an iconic villain, but he was never Kirk's Moriarty or Blofeld.

    when someone comes back to haunt you after fifteen years, he's your nemesis, plain and simple.

    Following this logic everyone who comes back for revenge is a nemesis. Sorry,I don't see it this way.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    edited November 2014 Posts: 5,080
    99% of the people who will watch Bond 24 in the cinemas could not care less about that organization.

    Honestly, the same can be said about SPECTRE.
  • edited November 2014 Posts: 4,619
    or that he'll NEVER use the cat, etc...

    What if they end up rebooting not only Blofeld but his cat as well? :bz

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  • Posts: 9,847
    If Jesperis coming back in Bond 24 so is Quantum and if they do. this will be awesome.


    Let's talk about you logic Goldfinger made more money then From Rusdsia with love or Dr No so by your logic they never should of brought Spctre back right or there shouldn't of been Spectre in a Guy Hamilton Bond film (both of which happened)...
  • edited November 2014 Posts: 4,619
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Let's talk about you logic Goldfinger made more money then From Rusdsia with love or Dr No so by your logic they never should of brought Spctre back right or there shouldn't of been Spectre in a Guy Hamilton Bond film (both of which happened)...

    It's not only about the money and it's a completely different scenario anyway since in the case of SPECTRE they had the novels... I advise people who think that Quantum may return to think of Bond 24 as a Sam Mendes film instead of a James Bond film for a second. Why would a world class director want to make a sequel to QOS? It's no accident Quantum was absent from Skyfall. Also think about the comment by Mendes saying that Bond 24 will be a continuation of the themes of Skyfall.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited November 2014 Posts: 10,591
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Let's talk about you logic Goldfinger made more money then From Rusdsia with love or Dr No so by your logic they never should of brought Spctre back right or there shouldn't of been Spectre in a Guy Hamilton Bond film (both of which happened)...

    It's not only about the money and it's a completely different scenario anyway since in the case of SPECTRE they had the novels... I advise people who think that Quantum may return to think of Bond 24 as a Sam Mendes film instead of a James Bond film for a second. Why would a world class director want to make a sequel to QOS? It's no accident Quantum was absent from Skyfall. Also think about the comment by Mendes saying that Bond 24 will be a continuation of the themes of Skyfall.
    Also, didn't Jesper Christenson also on numerous occasions express his dislike for the recent Bond films? Do people really think the producers would ask him back for another film?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    Wasn't it proven like last year that Jesper Christenson's quote was taken out of proportions and said he liked the films he worked on?
  • edited November 2014 Posts: 908
    HASEROT wrote: »
    Matt_Helm wrote: »
    When someone is on the record for watching Bond films because of Craig (not caring for those made before and probably after )and still dares criticising other peoples reasoning and arguments as product of being all negative and living a joyless life,well, I know where he or she is coming from.
    And she or you can love SF as much as you want,but whoever is denying,that it lacks any kind of logical development and is a prime example of volatile writing, is a lier or has no business whatsoever watching spy movies ( save Austin Powers that is). Also, if someone must be able to take it it is German lady. She and a guy called Jet Set Willy where the reason why I joined this forum over a year ago, because they were viciously throwing their weight into anyone who dared to say,that Skyfall might not be completely perfect.

    A) ... why bother joining at all - or even staying?

    B) you just sound like someone who loves to be pissed off, and will do anything you can to make others just as miserable.

    A) when those thinking and knowing give in those that don't prevail. This M.O. already brought us the dark ages.

    B) Yes, I'm bad! Really,really bad. They should make me the villain in a Bond movie.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    Murdock wrote: »
    Wasn't it proven like last year that Jesper Christenson's quote was taken out of proportions and said he liked the films he worked on?
    Even so, it's highly unlikely he'll return. We already have Blofeld returning (presumably), so this most likely means S.P.E.C.T.R.E.'s return. But we'll know very soon what the long awaited answer will be.
  • edited November 2014 Posts: 9,847
    No I don't think I will, Bond is the star of the show not the director or any actor etc, but even IF I bought into your logic why not. An orgnization that doesn't have a huge amount known about it but is clearly very powerfull why wouldn't a director like Mendes WANT to put his stamp on it to give people HIS Quantum to take the roots of Royale and Solace and put his stamp on it? He metioned numerous times how much he loved Casino Royale Quantum was apart of that story as much as they were in Quantum of Solace. so why not Build on that franchise?

    I know your counter "well why can't he do that with spectrte" maybe because he would have more freedom with Quantum? if he want to make the head of Quantum an attractive women he can if he wants their to be a board of directors like a business he can if he wants to make Mr white the head he can. He CAN'T do that with spectre if anything your reasonging of Mendes wanting to do thing his way and have his vision I would figure Spctre would be the LAST thing he wants. with Quantum he can do the evil orgnization his way without any film or novel to sort of hamper him.


    Imagine if you will Spectre as a color in the lines book and Quantum a blank sheet of paper you could literally put anything on and it would work. since Mendes apparently wants a lot of creative freedom why would he NOT want Quantum?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    edited November 2014 Posts: 16,351
    jake24 wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Wasn't it proven like last year that Jesper Christenson's quote was taken out of proportions and said he liked the films he worked on?
    Even so, it's highly unlikely he'll return. We already have Blofeld returning (presumably), so this most likely means S.P.E.C.T.R.E.'s return. But we'll know very soon what the long awaited answer will be.

    That's an assumption not proof. I'll wait until it comes out of Barbara's and Michael's mouth that Blofeld and SPECTRE are returning. As for Jesper, roles can be recast. Look at Felix and all his recastings.
  • edited November 2014 Posts: 11,119
    Matt_Helm wrote: »
    HASEROT wrote: »
    Matt_Helm wrote: »
    When someone is on the record for watching Bond films because of Craig (not caring for those made before and probably after )and still dares criticising other peoples reasoning and arguments as product of being all negative and living a joyless life,well, I know where he or she is coming from.
    And she or you can love SF as much as you want,but whoever is denying,that it lacks any kind of logical development and is a prime example of volatile writing, is a lier or has no business whatsoever watching spy movies ( save Austin Powers that is). Also, if someone must be able to take it it is German lady. She and a guy called Jet Set Willy where the reason why I joined this forum over a year ago, because they were viciously throwing their weight into anyone who dared to say,that Skyfall might not be completely perfect.

    A) so you joined a forum, just to piss on someone's parade?... why bother joining at all - or even staying?

    B) you just sound like someone who loves to be pissed off, and will do anything you can to make others just as miserable.

    A) when those thinking and knowing give in those that don't prevail. This M.O. already brought us the dark ages.

    B) Yes, I'm bad! Really,really bad. They should make me the villain in a Bond movie.

    You are such a pity. Do you actually realize.....that you kill of fun, joy and happiness? And that without any positivity and fun, all your arguments have zero impact on people? And if that doesn't bother you, if you lack empathy and don't care about other people's feeling, you turn into a "troll"? Please.....be nice. Or I ask a moderator to look into your "case".
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,804
    Matt_Helm wrote: »
    when those thinking and knowing give in those that don't prevail. This M.O. already brought us the dark ages.
    What does that even mean?
    Oh, I get it; section 26, paragraph 5.
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