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That's a little bit soap opera. Why would they even be related?
I'm really glad he's back, however I believe his role will be an important cameo to keep the plot moving (in fact, he might be the one with the cryptic message which might in fact be a recording) rather than something major.
I never really thought he was the head of Quantum however....I saw him as more of an important henchman. The fact that he dispatched Le Chiffre personally in CR just seemed a little beneath the head of an entity like Quantum. This view was further enforced by where he was sitting in the audience at the Opera in QoS while Greene conducted affairs from the booth. Additionally, when Bond infiltrated the group at the Opera, Mr. White sat put while the others upped and ran. If he was that important, surely members of Quantum would have ensured he was secure/safe before running.
So I think he will be the clue that leads Bond to Blofeld and Spectre, and it could be in some message that he leaves behind on a computer or disc, or it could be some clue or last message he gives Bond during a bustup at the beginning (similar to Bond's FYEO Blofeld bashup) when Bond either kills/captures him.
He was uncharacteristic unfinished business from previous movies (I think only Jaws was allowed to escape in the past) so it was inevitible he would be back, thinking about it retrospectively.
PS: I like the idea proposed earlier that Quantum is just one branch of Spectre (the extortion branch). In SPECTRE, I believe Mi6 will realize just how far reaching this organization in fact is.
Hmm...
Mr. White will appear in the PTS, setting the plot in motion and will be killed before the main titles. The PTS will mark the end of Quantum. The rest of the movie will have two main storylines: the first will involve M, Q and Moneypenny in London and the second will be about Bond around the globe. Denbigh will turn out to be a member of Spectre (but not the main villain) and the London storyline will be about him vs. M.
Meawhile Bond will travel around the globe and will have several face-offs against Spectre members. Mr Hinx will obviously be a Spectre henchman and either Sciarra or Swann (or both!) will turn out to be members of the organization. Oberhauser will also be a member of Spectre. The leader will be either Sciarra or Oberhauser.
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Almost right.. because Mendes never actually said "Oberhauser". Waltz was the only actor to be introduced without any character name. To the general audience, it sounded like introducing Voldemort ? :) The name only came later with the press release.
what if Quantum has a major presence in Spectre?
So, what about my post you reacted on? I mean, you could be right. But still, the other possibility, Waltz playing Blofeld, seems a bit weird also no? You think the actual character Blofeld will be a minor, but very important, cameo at the end of the film? Or will Blofeld have much larger screentime? And how to change from Oberhauser into Blofeld? Andrew Scott actually plays a Brit.
By jolly, this movie will have a story that will be much harder to guess than Skyfall. And WHAT will spectre's villainous scheme be this time??? Aaaargh! In any case, "SPECTRE" will have slightly more detective-esque approach, with more spying.....
So, what about my post you reacted on? I mean, you could be right. But still, the other possibility, Waltz playing Blofeld, seems a bit weird also no? You think the actual character Blofeld will be a minor, but very important, cameo at the end of the film? Or will Blofeld have much larger screentime? And how to change from Oberhauser into Blofeld? Andrew Scott actually plays a Brit.
By jolly, this movie will have a story that will be much harder to guess than Skyfall. And WHAT will spectre's villainous scheme be this time??? Aaaargh! In any case, "SPECTRE" will have slightly more detective-esque approach, with more spying.....
Not necessarily. There are many other plausible scenarios:
- Quantum and Spectre are rival organization
- Quantum has always been just a branch of Spectre
- Quantum turning into Spectre happens before the events of the movie
I'm curious: What will be the next oneliner by Blofeld after this classic one: "Kill Bond, now!"
I hope we'll get some new classic oneliners!
I wouldn't mind seeing this
I must say I'm at a loss about what they are going to do. My gut tells me that using Waltz as Blofeld is a little too predictable, and might not really have impact with viewers. There has to be a twist at the end IMO.
I think Waltz will have a very good role, and a meaningful one, but I don't necessarily see him being Blofeld, unless he has committed to a multi-film deal, which I don't think he has. I think he will be a complex, conflicted soul, who is pulled to the dark side by SPECTRE & eventually pays a price.
What would be really great is if Blofeld (the name and the character) have a surprise cameo at the end of SPECTRE (like MD in Interstellar). What would be even better is if the actor who is revealed to be Blofeld has already been cast, and is aleady signed on for Bond 25. Now that would be something, because that means SPECTRE ends on a high note, a potentially devastating high note (i.e. Bond loses), with Bond ready to do battle with Blofeld in Craig's swansong - i.e. B25.
On that note, why not take predictions for B25's title: BLOFELD anyone?
Almost everything about this is pointing to this film being something special.
I'm not happy with a few things though. The title to me just comes off as lazy. People are defending it now but I bet if a fan on here had suggested that title before it was announced then people would have told them it was a crap idea.
Not happy at all about Newman coming back. He better do a much better job this time.
Other than those two problems, I'm pleased. Really hope Blofeld is in it :)
Attractive? Sure,even if I'm not into Lolitas. But stunning? Not in my book. Sorry.
It means in old Italian: "Troublemaker" ;) :D
Great find!
I don't think they ever specifically said that Denbigh is MI6, they simply said 'Whitehall', so my guess is that just as Guy Haines was personal friend of the prime minister on the part of Quantum, Denbigh will reveal himself as Blofeld's person *inside* the government battling M over the fate of the secret service (perhaps even as part of Quantum's 'we have people everywhere' statement, which would bring White back into the picture; remember, Quantum simply makes the introductions :P).
I have read somewhere he was from MI5. Which means, the competitor of MI6 within the British state. He does not have to be a traitor or a double agent, he merely has to be a pain in the neck, like the MP played by Helen McCrory in SF. That would actually make a thematic continuation between the two movies.
Tensions between MI5 and MI6 have been explored very often in The Sandbaggers and Queen and Country, I would not be surprised they are finally shown in Bond movies.
Looking back on it, it is quite obvious now that we would have a limited cast.
This is after all a Sam Mendes film, and he is known for focusing on characters and characterizations.
There's only so much time for each actor to product meaningful dialogue and acting in a 2.5 hr film, so with Mendes, less is more.
That means that Bautista also will also likely have something more meaningful to do than just beating the crap out of Bond.
A part of me is all for focusing on the characters, but a part of me is also missing the traditional 2nd Bond girl eye candy (and no, I don't count a 50 yr old Bellucci as that, no matter how good she looks - I'll accept the ageist rap)