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  • LudovicoLudovico
    edited December 2014 Posts: 15,086
    boldfinger wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Presumably this statement by EON implies that the script that's making the rounds on the net is in fact valid (if outdated), and not a savvy internal leak by EON & Sony to create misdirection.

    A pity, because what I've read to date has been far from inspiring to say the least.
    Well, wouldn´t early version imply something before the re-writes?



    KHergesheimer wrote: »
    I think waltz may be a Red Herring. I think theee will be a Blofeld reveal at the end but it will be someone else entirely and someone who hasn't been announced as part of the cast. I still think the Mark Strong / Danile Craif trip to Mkrroco (a know film location) before official filing may be more the a coincidence
    Imagine Idris Elba with either a bald head or long hair, in any case with yellow contact lenses (a bit like in Thor, a bit like Blofeld´s green lenses from the OHMSS novel), turn around in a swivel chair at the end of SP, exposing his face. They could end the film there, or make it cheesy and have him say something like, "I´ve been expecting you, Mr. Bond".




    mnhettia wrote: »
    I am not happy with the fact that they are bringing specter back only for one film. If the rumors are true which is almost a 100 present possibility due to sam's return for one film. Sam or no Sam they should have done the two story arc as originally planned! Spectre deserves it!
    What fact?
    Why a two-story arc for SPECTRE? SPECTRE only makes sense as a repeatedly recurring pest, the same goes for Blofeld.
    What does Sam´s return for only one film have to do with it? Do the new M, MP and Q disappear again when Sam isn´t there anymore?

    I have read some of the early script of TND and while I am not a big fan of the finished product, it was a vast improvement over the early version.

    That said, regarding Idris Elba, sorry but no. He is an admirable actor, but he is no Blofeld.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
    Posts: 12,526
    I am guessing now with this statement from EON? We may not get as many clapper board pics now thanks to the hackers?
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    A couple of days ago the was rumour that said they chose Andrew Scott to play Denbigh because Chiwetel Ejiofor was too expensive. That is not true. Chiwetel Ejiofor passed on the role and David Oyelowo was also considered before they decided to cast Scott.
  • Suivez_ce_parachuteSuivez_ce_parachute
    Posts: 2,015
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    I am guessing now with this statement from EON? We may not get as many clapper board pics now thanks to the hackers?

    On the contrary, they can chooses image for the clapperboards that can cause confusion.

    I mean, already, and it was not intentional obviously, the twitter photo of scene 21 does not match scene 21 of the early leaked script (it matches another scene though...). Now, all they have to do is choose images that do not confirm what is in the leak. And people will start to have the fun back, because even with the early scripts, you don't know what the image shows. They simply have to focus on a detail, and not on the main part of the scene.
  • AdaShelbyAdaShelby
    Posts: 267
    Suivez_ce_parachute wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    I am guessing now with this statement from EON? We may not get as many clapper board pics now thanks to the hackers?

    On the contrary, they can chooses image for the clapperboards that can cause confusion.

    I mean, already, and it was not intentional obviously, the twitter photo of scene 21 does not match scene 21 of the early leaked script (it matches another scene though...). Now, all they have to do is choose images that do not confirm what is in the leak. And people will start to have the fun back, because even with the early scripts, you don't know what the image shows. They simply have to focus on a detail, and not on the main part of the scene.

    I agree with you, I think EON will fully take back the power from these leaks now that they're in production.
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    Posts: 4,408
    I really have no interest in reading the leaked script and from the enquires I've made it seems difficult to get hold of anyway. So that bodes well for me.

    What I'm interested in is the news @PanchitoPistoles and @Suivez_ce_parachute have mentioned leaked in emails such as casting news. Do we know any other names that were bandied around for Spectre or even other titles considered?
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited December 2014 Posts: 4,619
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    What I'm interested in is the news @PanchitoPistoles and @Suivez_ce_parachute have mentioned leaked in emails such as casting news. Do we know any other names that were bandied around for Spectre or even other titles considered?

    Tilda Swinton was definitely considered to play the main villain (and this isn't a spoiler since the role she was considered for doesn't exist in the movie anymore, she was NOT considered for Bellucci's role), although I am not sure how seriously. In the early days of the development of any movie they literally consider dozens of people for various roles.
  • AdaShelbyAdaShelby
    Posts: 267
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    What I'm interested in is the news @PanchitoPistoles and @Suivez_ce_parachute have mentioned leaked in emails such as casting news. Do we know any other names that were bandied around for Spectre or even other titles considered?

    Tilda Swinton was definitely considered to play the main villain (and this isn't a spoiler since the role she was considered for doesn't exist in the movie anymore, she was NOT considered for Bellucci's role), although I am not sure how seriously. In the early days of the development of any movie they literally consider dozens of people for various roles.

    I don't think Tilda Swinton was a definite consideration, she was just someone some people wanted to see in the film.
  • Suivez_ce_parachuteSuivez_ce_parachute
    edited December 2014 Posts: 2,015
    The line is so thin between discussing spoiler info and discussing non-spoiler info from the leak that I think that anyway any info that comes from the leak should be in the other thread, and only there. Also, please consider that here you're asking for info that really people never wanted to make public : it's one step more than discussing the scripts.

    I mean, now we can read for instance a very early Goldeneye script, and wonder what would have happened if it had been filmed that way (Brosnan's introduction would have been in a PTS in which an helicopter follows a high speed train in a tunnel... a few months before Mission:Impossible ending the same way !). Because, well, an unfilmed script becomes part of the legend. It's an info that can be made public after a few years without causing any trouble, etc.. But imagine (I'm making this up) comments from some MGM executive to another saying that in Goldeneye, Brosnan's salary can be cut by half because he's desperate to play Bond ? It will never be public even after many years. And these leaks have made public such comments from Sony that even Mendes, Broccoli, etc.. should never have read.

    Let me be more clear : in this leak, everyone has access to private professional mails (and the truth is that many people at Sony wonder if they're next, including all those who used their professional mails for personal matters...). When one reads it, you feel you have access to "the hidden truth".

    But the truth is that when you write professional mails, you keep on lying. You keep on writing what your business partner wants to hear. You keep on avoiding anything that will cause too much controversy. Etc.. Hence you end up saying some client is an idiot, just because you feel you're writing to someone who wants to hear something like that, not because you really think he's an idiot.

    So discussing all this is very weird. Yes it will be a goldmine for behind-the-scenes books authors. But is it "the truth" ? Not really.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    Suivez_ce_parachute wrote: »
    The line is so thin between discussing spoiler info and discussing non-spoiler info from the leak that I think that anyway any info that comes from the leak should be in the other thread, and only there. Also, please consider that here you're asking for info that really people never wanted to make public : it's one step more than discussing the scripts.

    You are absolutely right and I will shut my mouth from now on, I do not want to accidentally write any spoilers.
  • GermanladyGermanlady
    Posts: 6,601
    Imo, a Ch. Waltz has no reason to sign on, if he isnt convinced, his role is well written etc etc.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,086
    Germanlady wrote: »
    Imo, a Ch. Waltz has no reason to sign on, if he isnt convinced, his role is well written etc etc.

    It may be pure speculation from my part, but I think they may have had Christoph Waltz in mind for a while before he was cast.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    edited December 2014 Posts: 11,139
    Mod Edit: Information removed. Do not speak of leaks in this thread again. We have a thread solely for that.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    Thank. You. Moderator :-)!

    Finally some action is being undertaken. Just imagine that on many other websites the negative banter keeps going on. It's now already overblown, and on the Daily Mail today I read a sub-headline saying "Studio executives have said the script is a huge disappointment" (And I am NOT going to post that link. Search it yourself...on Google or whatever).

    I am not going to co-conspire with North-Korea, Guardians of Peace, and hacker-feeding-media, anymore. I am going to focus on nice things. On things that brings back the fun and excitement that comes with a "Bond-year".

    So to enhance that fact, I actually found a very nice article from WhatCulture. Have a read guys. Because I think we're on our way to witness one hell of a Bond film ;-):

    http://whatculture.com/film/9-things-spectre-needs-to-satisfy-diehard-bond-fans.php

  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    By the way, this is a must-read blog. Before you start criticising Sony, MGM, Amy Pascal, EON, the 300 Millón Dollar budget or the actual leaked draft screenplay, ask yourself if you are not feeding the actual hackers and if you are unconsciously being unethical:

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/annehelenpetersen/complicated-sony-ethics
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
    Posts: 3,277
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2014/12/13/eon-says-it-will-protect-rights-to-spectre-screenplay/

    I hope MI6-HQ, and forummembers on here, follows the example of other 007 fan sites and boards.

    The funny thing is that even though the administrators of those Bond sites stated that they won't write or publish any information about the leaked screenplay, they will be the first in line to read the script. If they haven't read it already...

    Reading the Script and all the leaked spoilers is one thing, sharing with our readers and with the whole world, is something completely different my dear friend @PanchitoPistoles. :)
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    marketto007 wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2014/12/13/eon-says-it-will-protect-rights-to-spectre-screenplay/

    I hope MI6-HQ, and forummembers on here, follows the example of other 007 fan sites and boards.

    The funny thing is that even though the administrators of those Bond sites stated that they won't write or publish any information about the leaked screenplay, they will be the first in line to read the script. If they haven't read it already...

    Reading the Script and all the leaked spoilers is one thing, sharing with our readers and with the whole world, is something completely different my dear friend @PanchitoPistoles. :)

    Fully agreed here Marketto
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
    Posts: 2,115
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    marketto007 wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2014/12/13/eon-says-it-will-protect-rights-to-spectre-screenplay/

    I hope MI6-HQ, and forummembers on here, follows the example of other 007 fan sites and boards.

    The funny thing is that even though the administrators of those Bond sites stated that they won't write or publish any information about the leaked screenplay, they will be the first in line to read the script. If they haven't read it already...

    Reading the Script and all the leaked spoilers is one thing, sharing with our readers and with the whole world, is something completely different my dear friend @PanchitoPistoles. :)

    Fully agreed here Marketto

    Sony's lawyers *might* feel differently:

    The Hollywood Reporter posted a copy of the letter it got from those lawyers:

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/custom/Sony Letter.pdf

    There'a line in there about how the company does not consent "to your possession, review, copying, dissemination, publication, uploading, downloading, or making any use of the Stolen Information."

    Part of that ("review") makes it sound like Sony is claiming they couldn't even *read* it.

    Several media outlets got the same letter.

  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    marketto007 wrote: »
    Reading the Script and all the leaked spoilers is one thing, sharing with our readers and with the whole world, is something completely different my dear friend @PanchitoPistoles. :)

    Of course it is different. All I am saying is that the statement is hypocritical, since the only reason that statement was made is becasue you and the admins of those other sites wanted to seem like you are 100% on EON's side even though you are not. If you were, you wouldn't even think about reading the script and the other leaked materials.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    LOL.
    Everyone needs to stop overreacting about this obvious FAKE script leak..
    Chill.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    LOL.
    Everyone needs to stop overreacting about this obvious FAKE script leak..
    Chill.

    It's not fake.
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
    Posts: 2,115
    If it's fake, why did Eon say a script was taken?
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    I believe it is an early draft written. It is not the official version.
    I have read many excerpts and it is really stupid..
    Apparently there were some sexual remarks made by Tanner? Why would that even be in the movie? I am really tired of people talking about the "leak", let's get back on topic.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
    edited December 2014 Posts: 5,767

    ColonelSun wrote: »

    Anamorphic lenses squeeze the image onto the film negative so they can frame for aspect ratio 2:35:1 - widescreen or letterbox. Because the light is being squeezed as it goes through the lens, there is a much greater drop off in depth of field which directors and DOPs, cameramen, use dramatically, artistically etc. when framing and lighting. The final film is un-squeezed by the projector lens to produce the full widescreen image.

    Spherical lenses are flat, in that they do not squeeze the image onto the 35mm film stock, and as such they frame for 1.85:1 (close to the 16x9 widescreen of TVs these days) which is not as wide as the anamorphic letterbox image. But to match the same framing as the material shot on anamorphic lenses, they will shoot Super 35mm which means they use the extra area on the film stock normally reserved for the soundtrack (the optical track in the old days) once the film is completed, but with digital sound and projection now, that is no issue.

    The reason why they are using spherical lenses for certain action shots is that it's much easier to shoot and frame low light, fast action shots with spherical lenses, especially as they do not have the dramatic depth of field drop off which anamorphic lenses have.

    That's broadly it.
    Cool! Thanks a lot @ColonelSun!
  • BondFanMediaBondFanMedia
    Posts: 107
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    marketto007 wrote: »
    Reading the Script and all the leaked spoilers is one thing, sharing with our readers and with the whole world, is something completely different my dear friend @PanchitoPistoles. :)

    Of course it is different. All I am saying is that the statement is hypocritical, since the only reason that statement was made is becasue you and the admins of those other sites wanted to seem like you are 100% on EON's side even though you are not. If you were, you wouldn't even think about reading the script and the other leaked materials.

    Allow me to comment on this as I am one of the admins who drafted the statement:

    I have not read the script and don´t intend to do so, I am also not in posession of any stolen documents or files and have also not "actively pursued acquisition of the illegal materials" as a tweet from @jamesbondlive adventurously suggests. I think it unwise to accuse anyone of having read or obtained the script! Actually, I find any such accusation shameful to be honest.

    It would have been enough to pick up the headlines of major news outlets and run a story on my blog f.e. that the film is over budget - it was all out there. I decided not to pick anything up and turn it into a story because I knew this would have a damaging effect on SONY and EON.

    We felt, this statement needed to be made - not just to distance ourselves from the entire media circus around the leak, but also to encourage others not to damage SONY and EON any further by spreading informations and details.

    We are all huge fans of the longest running film franchise in history and instead of supporting the companies who produce and distribute it, not to mention each other, we go into accusation mode and throw hypocritical in the mix?
  • 0101000101010001 Classified
    Posts: 25
    I see it happening that they indeed just threw up an early version of the script, but anyways, we won't know and cannot know until the film's out.

    I wonder if there are people filming that are not on the cast list yet.
  • GermanladyGermanlady
    Posts: 6,601
    BondFanMedia wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    marketto007 wrote: »
    Reading the Script and all the leaked spoilers is one thing, sharing with our readers and with the whole world, is something completely different my dear friend @PanchitoPistoles. :)

    Of course it is different. All I am saying is that the statement is hypocritical, since the only reason that statement was made is becasue you and the admins of those other sites wanted to seem like you are 100% on EON's side even though you are not. If you were, you wouldn't even think about reading the script and the other leaked materials.

    Allow me to comment on this as I am one of the admins who drafted the statement:

    I have not read the script and don´t intend to do so, I am also not in posession of any stolen documents or files and have also not "actively pursued acquisition of the illegal materials" as a tweet from @jamesbondlive adventurously suggests. I think it unwise to accuse anyone of having read or obtained the script! Actually, I find any such accusation shameful to be honest.

    It would have been enough to pick up the headlines of major news outlets and run a story on my blog f.e. that the film is over budget - it was all out there. I decided not to pick anything up and turn it into a story because I knew this would have a damaging effect on SONY and EON.

    We felt, this statement needed to be made - not just to distance ourselves from the entire media circus around the leak, but also to encourage others not to damage SONY and EON any further by spreading informations and details.

    We are all huge fans of the longest running film franchise in history and instead of supporting the companies who produce and distribute it, not to mention each other, we go into accusation mode and throw hypocritical in the mix?


    I agree, its a bit hypocritical, because you couldn't stay clear of posting revealing articles on your homepage. You could have set up the tone more clearly in NOT spoiling info yourself. All of that comes now way too late to feel honest. Sorry...
  • GermanladyGermanlady
    Posts: 6,601
    On a brighter note, they have changed that stupid gun law for films in Italy just for Bond.
    No need to translate, because it just says that.

    http://kurier.at/kultur/film/feuer-frei-fuer-007-waffengebrauch-bei-drehs-in-italien-moeglich/102.401.791
  • BondFanMediaBondFanMedia
    Posts: 107
    Germanlady wrote: »
    BondFanMedia wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    marketto007 wrote: »
    Reading the Script and all the leaked spoilers is one thing, sharing with our readers and with the whole world, is something completely different my dear friend @PanchitoPistoles. :)

    Of course it is different. All I am saying is that the statement is hypocritical, since the only reason that statement was made is becasue you and the admins of those other sites wanted to seem like you are 100% on EON's side even though you are not. If you were, you wouldn't even think about reading the script and the other leaked materials.

    Allow me to comment on this as I am one of the admins who drafted the statement:

    I have not read the script and don´t intend to do so, I am also not in posession of any stolen documents or files and have also not "actively pursued acquisition of the illegal materials" as a tweet from @jamesbondlive adventurously suggests. I think it unwise to accuse anyone of having read or obtained the script! Actually, I find any such accusation shameful to be honest.

    It would have been enough to pick up the headlines of major news outlets and run a story on my blog f.e. that the film is over budget - it was all out there. I decided not to pick anything up and turn it into a story because I knew this would have a damaging effect on SONY and EON.

    We felt, this statement needed to be made - not just to distance ourselves from the entire media circus around the leak, but also to encourage others not to damage SONY and EON any further by spreading informations and details.

    We are all huge fans of the longest running film franchise in history and instead of supporting the companies who produce and distribute it, not to mention each other, we go into accusation mode and throw hypocritical in the mix?


    I agree, its a bit hypocritical, because you couldn't stay clear of posting revealing articles on your homepage. You could have set up the tone more clearly in NOT spoiling info yourself. All of that comes now way too late to feel honest. Sorry...

    Where have I posted revealing articles that have their source in the leaks? This is simply untrue. The stories on my blog, including coverage of the filming, all come from openly available sources.
  • GermanladyGermanlady
    Posts: 6,601
    Are we not talking about the MI6 homepage? Sorry, if I misread your post. Then just ignore me ;)

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