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Completely agree with above quotes. And I think there are more people who think the same about it.
I have put that question up on this thread a couple of times but no one has answered. I have also sent a message to @marketto007, who bought up the date first, and I haven't heard from him, either.
I think a lot of people will appreciate it, so if anyone finds anything regarding the photocall in Rome please post it here.
Thank you to everybody in advance
Easter Egg's aren't usually used to promote a film. The DB5 was on display at the world premiere and was featured prominently in promoting the film. This wasn't just a little wink, it was a lazy safety net deployed by Mendes. I can completely understand why people take it with a pinch of salt, it is after all no matter of life and death, but for me, as a fan, I feel like it's important to be vociferous when it comes to the series' apparent need to embrace nostalgia. It's not just Bond, look at SW7 and it's use of the Millenium Falcon. It's really important to me that Bond continues to deliver new icons and doesn't just regurgitate or take comfort in whimsical sentimentality. This is the easy way to buy an audience. The more people lap it up, the more of it we'll be forced to endure. It's a sad fact of modern popular culture, that has been the case for almost twenty years, where creativity is in varying degrees eschewed in favour of a safe bet and a guarantee for the shareholders. It's disappointing to me, I don't think we need to be constantly celebrating and referencing the franchise. Get on with delivering original content.
You can trust Marketto, when he says there's a photocall, there's a photocall.
Brigitte Millar is in the cast? Gosh I am late catching the news!
It would be an unusual if downright unlikely kind of beauty for a Bond girl, so maybe a Rosa Klebb type of character would be better. I do think Monica Bellucci could play a rarely seen type of Bond girls, the repented sinner, like Pussy Galore and to a lesser extend May Day (I say to a lesser extend because until she redemmes herself she is downright a villainess, something Pussy Galore is not). Basically, someone who is on the villain's side, but for selfish reasons and not to the point of being a murderer or a terrorist.
Also, given the age difference between Monica Bellucci and Léa Seydoux, could they be mother and daughter?
Thanks for the confirmation @JWPepper. Then we can be sure now that the photocall will indeed take place on Wednesday. Thank you once more @marketto007 for the date.
Very interesting. Any thoughts on who will be playing:
Lovely name for a Bond girl. She could be like I mentioned a repented sinner type of Bond girl, a sort we have seldom seen (only Pussy Galore truly fits this category). Or actually Madeleine Swann might be: apart from the name referring to Marcel Proust, Madeleine is of course associated with the prostitute who cries at the feet of Christ.
I would find this strange and I think it would set a very, how should I put this, debatable precedent, but with Mendes it's perfectly possible.
Which is probably where we, or at least I, would consider Mendes to be in a great position. I'm saying, 'give me anything you can dare to imagine, as long as it's not riffing on the past or borrowing it wholesale'. That to me sounds more appealing than, 'I want you to shoe-horn in some things I remember seeing when I was a kid, so I can feel all warm and fuzzy'. I do agree with you about Mendes having to please the punters, I just feel the DB5 is a lazy way of doing it. A decent film will do that irrespective of it's specific content. He definitely felt vindicated, he said so himself. Which is disappointing. The reveal of the DB5 is palatable, it ties neatly with CR and then 'M' says 'Go on, eject me', and I just think, 'Meh'. I just hope we don't have more moments like this in SP. They're not needed.
I would think SPECTRE is the ultimate riff, if you get my drift.
When I first saw SF, I interpreted the "killing " of the DB5 os Menzes way of saying "right, that's it, we have had our fun with the old Bond, but we need to move on, that car is a right off and is NOT coming back. Lets move on"
It just doesn't need it. Between 1965-1995 we didn't see it once. Then we entered the era of nostalgia and we've since seen it in four of seven films, which would've been five had it not been cut in TWINE. I think Mendes did symbolically kill it, thank God.
But it will be short-lived if they continue that way...
In the next years, when discussing/listing/ranking Bond's famous cars, you'll have no entry for Skyfall, since it's the same entry as for Goldfinger. For all we heard about a "new take" on classic Bond, we didn't even see the slightest change to the car, for instance. Only the joke about how not comfortable it is by today's standard show something new, but well, in the end it's only some irreverency.
The lack of invention is the reason why IMO, I see SF go down in the "rankings" in the future (in particular if SPECTRE is good), while for instance CR will stay close to the top - although CR also has a DB5, but it appears in DC's world in a much less self-referential manner : not the famous plate, no Bond theme when he drives it, and it's used to display Bond's way to seduce "the girl" with some humour and incredible confidence.
We can't discuss old leaks even when they're obsolete, but I can say Logan kept on using some "irreverencies" in the early SPECTRE scripts. Hopefully some people said no, and now the script is very, very different. IMO, too bad they didn't woke up earlier for the Q character in SF. Q's been turned into a pretentious but incompetent guy. This is quite a change from the usual icon, but now we have typical Hollywood whizkid #42, that's not exactly a great creation...
Do we know for sure Brigitte Millar is cast? If so, I find it unlikely that she will play a Bond girl. So no Helga Brand-type character, unless we get evidence otherwise. She may be a Rosa Klebb ir an Irma Bunt, which is another kind of character, not femme fatale but rather sexually neutral, unattractive evil women. Let's not forget that not all female characters in Bond movies are Bond girls. M was not a Bond girl, whatever the debate there was about it, Margaret Thatcher in FYEO was not a Bond girl even though she thought Bond was flirting with her, Helen McCrory was not a Bond girl either.
Talking of McCrory, if Millar is in Spectre, she may be that kind of character.
But you can try. In SF, it felt they didn't even try. The only "major try" is the creation of Kincade's character IMO.
About SPECTRE, I can say nothing on this topic, because you know I know some things, etc..
Exactly. I'd rather something original that fails, to something staid and safe.
Totally agree. Your comment on Logan doesn't surprise me.
And now, this is important. It is also a (minor)spoiler. Mind you, this has no part of any SonyLeaks. But I will put this between spoiler tags. Do not attack me on that! More and more character information will soon leak anyway, and as I can not put this in the SonyLeaks topic or any other separate "Production Timeline Topic with Spoilers", I will post it here. And frankly, I find this a good opportunity to use spoiler tags! So do not attack me for this!
As rumored last month, there was an Italian actor supposed to be playing
--> Christoph Waltz (Austrian actor, "Franz Oberhauser")
--> Dave Bautista (American actor, "Mr. Hinx")
--> Monica Belluci (Italian actress, "Lucia 'Troublemaker' Sciarra") *rumoured*
--> Jesper Christensen (Danish actor, "Mr White")
--> Andrew Scott (British actor, "Denbigh")
--> Brigitte Millar (British actress. "Rosa Klebb?" "Irma Bunt?" Or other iconic henchwoman from the Bond franchise?)
--> Peppe Lanzetta (Italian actor, "Lorenzo", BALD)
--> Alessandro Cremona (Italian actor,
--> Detlef Bothe (German actor, "cable car man no#1", BALD)
--> Bodo Friesecke (German actor, "cable car man no#2", BALD)
--> Marc Zinga (Belgian actor, "Oberhauser's assistant")
--> Wilhelm Iben (Austrian actor, "Syringe Heavy", BALD)
--> Victor Schefé (German actor, BALD)
--> Neve Gachev (Bulgarian actress, "clinic patron")
German actor Bodo Friesecke:
Italian actor Alessandro Cremona:
Due to our shorter attention spans, it is more difficult to create lasting icons, but it can be done. It takes creative effort, and a bit of luck though, to make it lasting.
Those were my thoughts exactly. I didn't even think it was that subtle. The whole idea of Bond "going back in time" was hit home pretty hard with not just the DB5 but also his childhood home (complete with Connery-esque 'caretaker') going up in flames. The message was clear: "we love the old films as much as you guys but after 50 years it doesn't make sense to carry this baggage any further - we need to create our own timeline now." The final briefing scene reinforced this too as it seemed to say "don't worry, we respect the history, Bond will still be the same Bond"
I am skeptical about Brigitte Millar playing anything else than a small role.