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  • chipstickschipsticks NOT on TheDanielCraigForum where they think know Daniel Craig personally and Léa and Monica are ugly
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    Así arreglan la plaza Manuel Tolsá para la película James Bond 007

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  • RC7RC7
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    Obviously @RC7, you don't like the above PTS-scenes either, as it includes the "Dia de los muertos"-carnival. And that is way way too much a reference to the Junkanoo-carnaval in "TB" and the Rio-carnival in "MR". No :-)?

    Not at all. This has never featured in a Bond movie, so I'm all for it and very excited. It's going to bring a hell of a lot of colour to the film.
  • edited March 2015 Posts: 4,622
    Back to the poster for a second.

    What I like about the poster is that it is heavily photoshopped and posed.
    It's got a throwback appeal!
    I like that Bond is sexed up as detached man-of-action on mission, with steely look of determination, much like the old '60's '70s Bond poster caricatures.
    Craig does look very fantasy Bond-like in that shot.
    So now that a SP Bond-look has been established, going forward, let's also mix in the busy stuff, like girls, guns, fire and lots of stuff blowing up, with Bond right in the midst of it all.

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    Now, with all the great action and location settings, not to mention potential set pieces, planned for SP, there is potential for a great throwback Bond-busy poster. Craig's determined facial expression is perfect for such a poster.
    The potential- the silver Aston, the orange Jag, Bellucci stretched in exotic pose, Seydoux looking sexy fierce, snow, planes crashing, land rovers crashing, the new Piz Glora retreat.
    Day of the Dead scary imagery in Mexico.
    The potential for a great poster is here. And sure, do some of the mimimalist stuff as well, why not.
    But there is potential for a great throwback poster too.
    Bond is back and with full mojo intact. Celebrate I say!
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    Gee, that TMWTGG poster seems far more exciting than the movie.
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    RC7 wrote: »
    DrGorner wrote: »
    Agreed, the public want " familiarity " :)

    Fuck the public
    :))
    The same people who have kept the Bond films going? If it were only the fans who watched the Bond films, then it wouldn't have lasted 50+ years. I know you're joking, but still - they have give give something to the general public to keep them interested too.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I guess before the internet etc, the poster would help sell the movie.
  • chipstickschipsticks NOT on TheDanielCraigForum where they think know Daniel Craig personally and Léa and Monica are ugly
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    Tacuba se prepara para la filmación de James Bond


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    RC7 wrote: »
    Obviously @RC7, you don't like the above PTS-scenes either, as it includes the "Dia de los muertos"-carnival. And that is way way too much a reference to the Junkanoo-carnaval in "TB" and the Rio-carnival in "MR". No :-)?

    Not at all. This has never featured in a Bond movie, so I'm all for it and very excited. It's going to bring a hell of a lot of colour to the film.

    Floats have been featured heavily in "MR" and "TB". Now also in "SP". It is not original @RC7. You should be against it :-P.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I hope they have a dog taking a crap, as in TB. :))
    Now that would be an Homage. ;)
  • RC7RC7
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Obviously @RC7, you don't like the above PTS-scenes either, as it includes the "Dia de los muertos"-carnival. And that is way way too much a reference to the Junkanoo-carnaval in "TB" and the Rio-carnival in "MR". No :-)?

    Not at all. This has never featured in a Bond movie, so I'm all for it and very excited. It's going to bring a hell of a lot of colour to the film.

    Floats have been featured heavily in "MR" and "TB". Now also in "SP". It is not original @RC7. You should be against it :-P.

    I'm hoping that next time the entire cast is made up of animals, for the sake of originality.
  • edited March 2015 Posts: 4,622
    After 53 years, I think its great that Bond is re-visiting its glorious past and re-working familiar imagery.
    All great artists do this don't they? I am a huge Rolling Stones fan. The Stones legacy timeline parallels the Bond film legacy almost exactly.
    Post classic-era Stones has been re-working familiar riffs and early brilliance to great effect for many years.
    The SP floats are an inspired riff on both TB and MR, as is the fresh Piz Gloria like setting.
    Personally I love it! This blending of the familiar with the new. One can do this when one has such an extensive and lush canvas of material to work with.
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    Chipsticks: Your pictures are fantastic. It's wonderful to have someone right there who takes great pictures. The Rome pictures were great fun to see, but your pictures are so clear and up close, they are really special and a real treat. It will be great fun to see your posts on the scene in the coming weeks.
  • edited March 2015 Posts: 4,622
    Unless I am wrong, as I am not sure where @chipsticks is, but I am not 100% sure she is in Mexico, but she is real good at mining worldwide social media for pics and SP content! Bravo!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Yes, A big thanks for all the photos. =D> great to see
    The production moving along.
  • RC7RC7
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    timmer wrote: »
    The SP floats are an inspired riff on both TB and MR

    According to a news article posted the other day
    the Mexican authorities made several demands, one of which was to feature the festival. So I think this one is happenstance. The clinic is definitely a rip-off, I assume.
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    Watched LALD yesterday.
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    Rings a bell?
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    timmer wrote: »
    Unless I am wrong, as I am not sure where @chipsticks is, but I am not 100% sure she is in Mexico, but she is real good at mining worldwide social media for pics and SP content! Bravo!

    I bet you're right. Her pictures are just so clear and plentiful, I assumed she was right there.

  • RC7RC7
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    Zekidk wrote: »
    Watched LALD yesterday.
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    Rings a bell?

    Same time tomorrow?
  • edited March 2015 Posts: 4,622
    Zekidk wrote: »
    Watched LALD yesterday.
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    Rings a bell?
    Good catch! Mendes is obsessed with both LALD and the DB5 :)

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    RC7 wrote: »
    doghouse wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    What irks me is when things aren't just alluding to that 'feel', but instead they are just a carbon copy or reinterpretation of something that has been done before. SP may well achieve this, although there are already a couple of things that have me scratching my head.

    I find it a stretch to consider a couple of Bond touchstones as a "carbon copy". The DB5 is a motif, just as the gunbarrel and theme song. That's all. All this gnashing of teeth seems a little overwrought.

    You don't think
    a mountain top clinic is a visual copy of Piz Gloria? Or that DC in that get-up is a copy of Rog in LALD. Why not just, I don't know, do something different that isn't aping what has gone before.

    I don't class the DB5 as a motif. It was in two films and then disappeared for thirty years before coming back for the greatest hits era. Mendes just took it up a level. It's in no way comparable to the gunbarrel or a theme song.

    It's 100% motif. You could put a picture of a DB5 up basically anywhere and people will instantly think James Bond. Besides, I don't see Mendes taking it up any notches. It gets basically the same screen time it has for the past 20 years.

    As far as the other stuff, I think you need to delineate between a movie remake and various themes and images. I don't see anything unoriginal about using consistent characterization and theming. To take your argument to it's logical end we should have either a 7 foot tall Ghanian or a Thai judo champ as Bond because the average age British white guy has already been done.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    I know a lot of people are disliking all these old movie references and I too would love a bond film with completely original places and brand new locations and story lines that have never been done before but!!!!

    It's not a bond film to me if we don't see bond wearing that dark long sleeve, black pants, spy outfit. I mean come on guys, I used to love seeing SC and RM sneak out at night wearing that outfit and doing actual spy work...

    Honestly Craig's films have been so much like the Bourne films that I am glad that they are actually including the DB5 and including scenes that will remind us of old films.

    If they are bringing SPECTRE back then yes I would love to see Blofeld, Ima bunt and other characters from past films turn up... I don't know why some people are getting mad that they are doing things that are Bond traditions..

    Umm oh no bonds ordering a martini, he is driving a DB5 (a car that hes been using for 50 years), he's wearing a tuxedo or oh no Bonds wearing a blue button up with khakis... Im sorry but if we didn't do traditional bond things this would just be another shitty action movie..
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    It is funny depending on which forum you visit Spectre is either a remake of ...
    OHMSS or a remake of LALD ! :))
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    DrGorner wrote: »
    It is funny depending on which forum you visit Spectre is either a remake of ...
    OHMSS or a remake of LALD ! :))

    Or both. :D
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    I don't think it will be anything like ohmss or lald, sure there are a few sequences that remind me of those films but I think it will be incredibly different.
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    Or YOLT/MR/TLD.

    Mr. Hinx is also 50% Jaws and 50% Tee Hee (another LALD reference)
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    At least we have a director that we know is a Bond fan and knows his Bond history...
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    With the beard, he might be a bit of Gobinda, too. :D
  • RC7RC7
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    doghouse wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    doghouse wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    What irks me is when things aren't just alluding to that 'feel', but instead they are just a carbon copy or reinterpretation of something that has been done before. SP may well achieve this, although there are already a couple of things that have me scratching my head.

    I find it a stretch to consider a couple of Bond touchstones as a "carbon copy". The DB5 is a motif, just as the gunbarrel and theme song. That's all. All this gnashing of teeth seems a little overwrought.

    You don't think
    a mountain top clinic is a visual copy of Piz Gloria? Or that DC in that get-up is a copy of Rog in LALD. Why not just, I don't know, do something different that isn't aping what has gone before.

    I don't class the DB5 as a motif. It was in two films and then disappeared for thirty years before coming back for the greatest hits era. Mendes just took it up a level. It's in no way comparable to the gunbarrel or a theme song.

    It's 100% motif. You could put a picture of a DB5 up basically anywhere and people will instantly think James Bond. Besides, I don't see Mendes taking it up any notches. It gets basically the same screen time it has for the past 20 years.

    As far as the other stuff, I think you need to delineate between a movie remake and various themes and images. I don't see anything unoriginal about using consistent characterization and theming. To take your argument to it's logical end we should have either a 7 foot tall Ghanian or a Thai judo champ as Bond because the average age British white guy has already been done.

    You could put up a picture up of the Golden Girl, or Baron Samedi, or the Lotus Esprit, or the Golden Gun etc etc and people will instantly think 'Bond'. I'm not denying it's iconic, but a film doesn't rely on it's presence the way it does the theme tune. It's an intrinsic part of the films tapestry. Just look at the stink that's been kicked up about moving the GB, not even getting rid of it. The films can easily live without the DB5. They did. For decades.

    You're misinterpreting my argument regard nods, homages, etc. I just don't think there's any need for things to ape existing iconography. The SF intro was shot in Istanbul, but it's distinctly different from FRWL. In SP we have a
    mountain top clinic in the alps. That's already an iconic visual from the canon. I don't see the need to go there again, personally.

    Re. The DB5 and Mendes taking it up a notch I was referring to it being the one from GF.
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    I really don't see why people are complaining? Mendes harkened back to LALD slightly in SF with the komodo dragons but for me that sequence seemed to be a homage to all the earlier (and slightly camper) Bond movies. It was just a little nod to Bond's more outrageous past. To be honest, the sequence was maybe a little too tongue in cheek and slightly incongruous with the rest of the tone of SF. However, it was a fun little interlude.

    I also can't understand the hate for the DB5 returning. It's Bond car. Simply as. I know it was destroyed in SF and I know fans love nitpicking as to why the GF DB5 somehow turned up in the rebooted series. But does it really matter? Bond and the DB5 go hand in hand. It's like the Doctor and his TARDIS, they are both intrinsically linked in the public and moviegoer's consciousness. That particular Aston Martin is an important part of Bond's iconography, it's one of the small vestiges of the series' past it will never be able to get rid off.

    In terms of Bond's look in the poster. I always thought Roger Moore looked his coolest in the finale of LALD and I'm surprised it's taken this long for EON to replicate the look. I think it's near impossible that Temine and Mendes were not aware of Moore's look in the film and were trying to capture the same sense of danger and swagger, albeit allowing Craig to put his own spin on it. However, do remember that in LALD the filmmakers were also deliberately trying to emulate another massive star when dressing Moore for that scene; Steve McQueen.

    Everything is derivative of something. Nothing these days is truly original, least of all the Bond series.

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    I didn't think SF was a nostgalia fest. It deliberately kept a few nods mainly to honour the 50th anniversary. But aside the DB5, the Moneypenny reveal and M's office, the film itself was truly original. The complaint the film most often had levelled at it was how it didn't feel like a 'Bond film' to most and was too personal and emotional. For instance, the film totally does away with the traditional primary Bond girl/love interest and instead focusses on a 70 year-old woman thusly making her the female lead of the picture.

    I think people here are focussing on very small elements and not looking at the bigger picture.
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
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    Press Conference in Mexico is on:

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