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  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
    Posts: 12,526
    Great to see more new and fresh images again! Keep them coming!!!!! @-)
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    smitty wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, GG, but how is Pierce Brosnan the opposite of being creative? I do recall he inserted his own humour and came up with a few additional dialogues ever since GoldenEye. He was the one who wanted Bond to take a darker path, but they weren't ready to go for it by the time he was holding the Walther. Come now, you cannot discredit the good old Pierce, now, can you? :D

    The circumstances surrounding a Bond's time in the role are really kind of unique. I may prefer Craig as Bond, but lots of that is due to the weaker scripts that I thought Pierce had. Pierce always has struck me as a hard working, classy guy that gave the role his all. It's one thing to talk about his Bonds, but I don't like to see him knocked personally. And EON didn't let him go in the most humane way either.

    Someone noted earlier about how the Bond films have grown almost exponentially in cost, complexity, competition, not to mention expectations. The next Bond is not going to have an easy time of it with the press, the fans, and the backbiting on the net.
    That is my point. I hardly talk about opinion, especially in a place where there is a strong dislike of the Brosnan films, which as opposed to the majority, I cherish his films more than I do the recent ones. But, I was merely stating a fact with that one. Brosnan actually did work and affect some of the scenes even during filming when the original script did not contain such materials. The line "She always enjoyed a good squeeze" in GoldenEye, and the speedboat diving with underwater tie adjustment in TWINE were his ideas. He advocated to Barbara and Michael for making Casino Royale, and it was actually being written with him in mind. I do remember when there was a mere script leak ten years ago, the draft read like a Brosnan Bond adventure with not clearly different elements from the Craig film.

    And for his dismissal, when people say EON fired him, that isn't true. Barbara wanted to keep him, but it was Sony that actually ordered the producers to rule him out.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,229
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    smitty wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, GG, but how is Pierce Brosnan the opposite of being creative? I do recall he inserted his own humour and came up with a few additional dialogues ever since GoldenEye. He was the one who wanted Bond to take a darker path, but they weren't ready to go for it by the time he was holding the Walther. Come now, you cannot discredit the good old Pierce, now, can you? :D

    The circumstances surrounding a Bond's time in the role are really kind of unique. I may prefer Craig as Bond, but lots of that is due to the weaker scripts that I thought Pierce had. Pierce always has struck me as a hard working, classy guy that gave the role his all. It's one thing to talk about his Bonds, but I don't like to see him knocked personally. And EON didn't let him go in the most humane way either.

    Someone noted earlier about how the Bond films have grown almost exponentially in cost, complexity, competition, not to mention expectations. The next Bond is not going to have an easy time of it with the press, the fans, and the backbiting on the net.
    That is my point. I hardly talk about opinion, especially in a place where there is a strong dislike of the Brosnan films, which as opposed to the majority, I cherish his films more than I do the recent ones. But, I was merely stating a fact with that one. Brosnan actually did work and affect some of the scenes even during filming when the original script did not contain such materials. The line "She always enjoyed a good squeeze" in GoldenEye, and the speedboat diving with underwater tie adjustment in TWINE were his ideas. He advocated to Barbara and Michael for making Casino Royale, and it was actually being written with him in mind. I do remember when there was a mere script leak ten years ago, the draft read like a Brosnan Bond adventure with not clearly different elements from the Craig film.

    And for his dismissal, when people say EON fired him, that isn't true. Barbara wanted to keep him, but it was Sony that actually ordered the producers to rule him out.

    It is completely off topic, but where is the evidence for this? They wrote a script with 50 something Brosnan to play a beginner Bond?
  • smittysmitty
    Posts: 725
    I'm amazed that Sony had the clout to over rule EON over something so critical as recasting BOND. I can't help but think that a distribution studio will only be thinking of BO and not quality, or continuity or any of the better reasons for casting. I've been reading the SONY email leaks. They are fascinating and depressing. I guess it is a huge adrenalin rush when it's a hit, but the stress of making one of these gigantic films looks like it could kill you.
  • Ottofuse8Ottofuse8
    Posts: 832
    smitty wrote: »
    I'm amazed that Sony had the clout to over rule EON over something so critical as recasting BOND. I can't help but think that a distribution studio will only be thinking of BO and not quality, or continuity or any of the better reasons for casting. I've been reading the SONY email leaks. They are fascinating and depressing. I guess it is a huge adrenalin rush when it's a hit, but the stress of making one of these gigantic films looks like it could kill you.
    After die another day (a total qualitative failure in my and most people's opinions) Pierce Brosnan was the most popular bond since Sean Connery, so it can't be that.

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    smitty wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, GG, but how is Pierce Brosnan the opposite of being creative? I do recall he inserted his own humour and came up with a few additional dialogues ever since GoldenEye. He was the one who wanted Bond to take a darker path, but they weren't ready to go for it by the time he was holding the Walther. Come now, you cannot discredit the good old Pierce, now, can you? :D

    The circumstances surrounding a Bond's time in the role are really kind of unique. I may prefer Craig as Bond, but lots of that is due to the weaker scripts that I thought Pierce had. Pierce always has struck me as a hard working, classy guy that gave the role his all. It's one thing to talk about his Bonds, but I don't like to see him knocked personally. And EON didn't let him go in the most humane way either.

    Someone noted earlier about how the Bond films have grown almost exponentially in cost, complexity, competition, not to mention expectations. The next Bond is not going to have an easy time of it with the press, the fans, and the backbiting on the net.
    That is my point. I hardly talk about opinion, especially in a place where there is a strong dislike of the Brosnan films, which as opposed to the majority, I cherish his films more than I do the recent ones. But, I was merely stating a fact with that one. Brosnan actually did work and affect some of the scenes even during filming when the original script did not contain such materials. The line "She always enjoyed a good squeeze" in GoldenEye, and the speedboat diving with underwater tie adjustment in TWINE were his ideas. He advocated to Barbara and Michael for making Casino Royale, and it was actually being written with him in mind. I do remember when there was a mere script leak ten years ago, the draft read like a Brosnan Bond adventure with not clearly different elements from the Craig film.

    And for his dismissal, when people say EON fired him, that isn't true. Barbara wanted to keep him, but it was Sony that actually ordered the producers to rule him out.

    It is completely off topic, but where is the evidence for this? They wrote a script with 50 something Brosnan to play a beginner Bond?
    No, the beginner Bond came when they wrote a rather neutral and new Bond in mind which was later customized to Daniel Craig's characterization. As to where did I acquire the evidence of this? Ask Kevin Bertrand Collette, a close associate to EON Productions and the man who did a special presentation and coverage on DAD for the 40th Anniversary of the franchise. Or even better if we ask our highly graded reporters from this very website itself.

    In anyways, sorry for dragging the topic off rails. Carry on, chaps. :)
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    Zekidk wrote: »
    Prepping for shooting at the kasbah in Tangier:
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    "June 21, 2015. (...) It took us about 4 hours to get to Tangier, and that afternoon we explored the city. Our path was blocked slightly because a James Bond movie was being filmed in part of the medina"
    https://ramblingsofanarabicstudent.wordpress.com/tag/طنجة/


    Just to give you an idea where the 1st unit was filming today...and upcoming days, go to http://kasbahoftangier.com/ . This kasbah (or 'fortress') is named 'Dar el-Makhzem Kasbah'.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited June 2015 Posts: 13,356
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    And for his dismissal, when people say EON fired him, that isn't true. Barbara wanted to keep him, but it was Sony that actually ordered the producers to rule him out.

    Brosnan was out as Bond and got the call, at the latest by February 2004; Sony acquired part of MGM that September. So, no, EON started the ball rolling.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    Samuel001 wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    And for his dismissal, when people say EON fired him, that isn't true. Barbara wanted to keep him, but it was Sony that actually ordered the producers to rule him out.

    Brosnan was out as Bond and got the call, at the latest by February 2004; Sony acquired part of MGM that September. So, no, EON started the ball rolling.

    As director Peter Hunt once said: "The star of the James Bond films isn't Sean Connery, Lazenby, or Roger Moore.......it's James Bond himself".

    I don't understand the discussion, as I never brutally dismissed Pierce Brosnan. I just think that behind the scenes Craig's influence is much bigger, as opposed to Pierce Brosnan. In my honest opinion I think Pierce Brosnan took on the Bond-coat flamboyantly, but also a bit too easy. He could have been more critical behind the scenes, he could have opposed certain screenplay choices more strongly. But from all of his press conferences I really never got the idea that he did exactly that. He was just OK with everything.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2015 Posts: 23,883
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    Samuel001 wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    And for his dismissal, when people say EON fired him, that isn't true. Barbara wanted to keep him, but it was Sony that actually ordered the producers to rule him out.

    Brosnan was out as Bond and got the call, at the latest by February 2004; Sony acquired part of MGM that September. So, no, EON started the ball rolling.

    As director Peter Hunt once said: "The star of the James Bond films isn't Sean Connery, Lazenby, or Roger Moore.......it's James Bond himself".

    I don't understand the discussion, as I never brutally dismissed Pierce Brosnan. I just think that behind the scenes Craig's influence is much bigger, as opposed to Pierce Brosnan. In my honest opinion I think Pierce Brosnan took on the Bond-coat flamboyantly, but also a bit too easy. He could have been more critical behind the scenes, he could have opposed certain screenplay choices more strongly. But from all of his press conferences I really never got the idea that he did exactly that. He was just OK with everything.
    I agree @Gustav_Graves.

    PB wanted the role too much and I think the producers knew it. It was something he craved, and something that he used to build off of (including his other movies and his Irish Dreamtime production company). So there was an inherent conflict of interest, because Bond was essentially helping him to achieve all these other commercial objectives - it's difficult to bite/speak truth to the hand that's feeding you, so to speak.

    DC is different. He's more low-key and appears to put Bond first (rather than other objectives). He prepared very well for the part on CR. Circumstances helped too (QoS writer's strike allowed him involvement in the script rewrites), but I think he had more credibility with Babs/Michael from the get-go because he is an actor's actor and attracts high calibre actors to the franchise who want to work with him. Moreover, I think he just has a very good relationship particularly with Babs, and that's very important as we know for career advancement. Roger Moore had the same thing going with Cubby.

    I always felt PB with Babs/Michael was professional, but not so trusting, so they were less likely to listen to his input even if it was warranted and correct.
  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
    Posts: 757
    He wanted Monica for tomorrow never dies. Pierce also wanted a big name director with artistic clout. He was ahead of his time
  • BrimarBrimar
    edited June 2015 Posts: 95
    Strelik wrote: »
    Brimar wrote: »
    I was just wondering for those who know, how many Bond films over the decades were also reported to have "script problems" during production beyond QoS and TND? And how many of those came out as solid films in the end?
    On the flip side: Die Another Day had a smooth, trouble-free screenwriting process and the final script -- especially the P&W dialogue -- was terrible.

    I'm glad Sam Mendes has been trying to increase the script quality for Spectre even at the eleventh hour. Apparently, he cares more about the film quality than Barbara Broccoli does.

    That's actually a great point! Sometimes a smooth pre and regular production process does not necessarily guarantee a great result anymore than a bumpy production process means a film will come out bad. Though they would always prefer something less problematic. And you are absolutely right, Mendes seems to be a director who cares deeply about the quality of his screenplays and actors. That and his visual talent are what makes him - to me - a top notch director. So hopefully any rewrites - by whomever and whenever they were written- are only there to make something good even better and not just based on a whim.

  • BrimarBrimar
    Posts: 95
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    The trailer looks absolutely amazing.
    Brimar wrote: »
    I was just wondering for those who know, how many Bond films over the decades were also reported to have "script problems" during production beyond QoS and TND? And how many of those came out as solid films in the end? Seems Craig only worked on QoS because he had to as he was not a member of the WGA and the script was not finished and well... someone had to do it.

    As many have said here, this time, even if there are a few issues that might need to be ironed out, the production team could call in just about any writer they could get as Craig said he was not a writer himself and would obviously not want to get involved in that aspect if he doesn't have to. Just an odd story by the Mail if you look at more of the picture. But I don't really know its reputation as a newspaper to be honest.

    Plus, a vast majority of the opinions (not all) I have read in the leaks thread regarding the leaked script(s) seem positive. So in a way we have some info (scripts/outlines) ourselves that reassure me at least, to a degree, that things are not in "total creative turmoil".

    I know Goldeneye was re-written. The original script is still available.
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    The trailer looks absolutely amazing.
    Brimar wrote: »
    I was just wondering for those who know, how many Bond films over the decades were also reported to have "script problems" during production beyond QoS and TND? And how many of those came out as solid films in the end? Seems Craig only worked on QoS because he had to as he was not a member of the WGA and the script was not finished and well... someone had to do it.

    As many have said here, this time, even if there are a few issues that might need to be ironed out, the production team could call in just about any writer they could get as Craig said he was not a writer himself and would obviously not want to get involved in that aspect if he doesn't have to. Just an odd story by the Mail if you look at more of the picture. But I don't really know its reputation as a newspaper to be honest.

    Plus, a vast majority of the opinions (not all) I have read in the leaks thread regarding the leaked script(s) seem positive. So in a way we have some info (scripts/outlines) ourselves that reassure me at least, to a degree, that things are not in "total creative turmoil".

    I know Goldeneye was re-written. The original script is still available.

    Thanks. Didn't know that. I'll try and find it online and compare it to the final product.


  • Suivez_ce_parachuteSuivez_ce_parachute
    Posts: 2,015
    Brimar wrote: »
    Thanks. Didn't know that. I'll try and find it online and compare it to the final product.

    Note that it's also a kind of use of a leak to read the original GE screenplay :)
    Then, when you decide you can read the infos from the leaks about SPECTRE, you'll know why they called P&W back. It's quite something ! It's not a whim, or just making it better...


  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    bondjames wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    Samuel001 wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    And for his dismissal, when people say EON fired him, that isn't true. Barbara wanted to keep him, but it was Sony that actually ordered the producers to rule him out.

    Brosnan was out as Bond and got the call, at the latest by February 2004; Sony acquired part of MGM that September. So, no, EON started the ball rolling.

    As director Peter Hunt once said: "The star of the James Bond films isn't Sean Connery, Lazenby, or Roger Moore.......it's James Bond himself".

    I don't understand the discussion, as I never brutally dismissed Pierce Brosnan. I just think that behind the scenes Craig's influence is much bigger, as opposed to Pierce Brosnan. In my honest opinion I think Pierce Brosnan took on the Bond-coat flamboyantly, but also a bit too easy. He could have been more critical behind the scenes, he could have opposed certain screenplay choices more strongly. But from all of his press conferences I really never got the idea that he did exactly that. He was just OK with everything.
    I agree @Gustav_Graves.

    PB wanted the role too much and I think the producers knew it. It was something he craved, and something that he used to build off of (including his other movies and his Irish Dreamtime production company). So there was an inherent conflict of interest, because Bond was essentially helping him to achieve all these other commercial objectives - it's difficult to bite/speak truth to the hand that's feeding you, so to speak.

    DC is different. He's more low-key and appears to put Bond first (rather than other objectives). He prepared very well for the part on CR. Circumstances helped too (QoS writer's strike allowed him involvement in the script rewrites), but I think he had more credibility with Babs/Michael from the get-go because he is an actor's actor and attracts high calibre actors to the franchise who want to work with him. Moreover, I think he just has a very good relationship particularly with Babs, and that's very important as we know for career advancement. Roger Moore had the same thing going with Cubby.

    I always felt PB with Babs/Michael was professional, but not so trusting, so they were less likely to listen to his input even if it was warranted and correct.


    And let's not forget Sean Connery @BondJames. If you read Taschen's "007 Archives" (I'm so glad I own this masterpiece), you know that also during pre-production of the first three Connery-films, lengthy brainstorm sessions about the screenplay were held (With director's Terence Young, Guy Hamilton, producers Albert Broccoli and Harry Saltzman, and off course actor Connery himself). Sean Connery always made his list of adjustments nd critical comments.

    But it wasn't until "Goldfinger" that his criticism was basically sidelined by director Guy Hamilton. Sean Connery was quite afraid that the screenplay for "Goldfinger" was way too pastiche and cheesy. He was worried that the grittiness of Fleming would be sacrificed a bit too much.

    Those were the early days of Bond off course. And the unprecedented success of the franchise off course made the producers want to have very tight control over the franchise. To such an extend that Connery's uncredited advice was sidelined completely.

    But that's why I am happy the Bond franchise has really grown up. Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson still pull the strings. But it appears they are way less authocratical in their work as compared to their predecessors. Especially with the entrance of Daniel Craig to the franchise, I have the feeling the current Bond producers think way more on similar levels with their cast- and crew members. During production of a Bond film they seem to 'outsource' certain creative decisions to, let's say, Daniel Craig and Sam Mendes, a bit more.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    By the way, just for this time I'd also like to post the shooting schedule in here :-). Off course you can find the entire schedule in this topic as well. And feel free to post a critical comment or some proposed corrections. It would only help to make the shooting schedule more accurate.
    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/10419/spectre-shooting-schedule-update-22-06-2015-may-contain-spoilers#latest :

    ....this is the SHOOTING SCHEDULE AS OF 22.06.2015. Tiny update, as now the filming in Morocco is busy. The reshoot / extra shooting in London (part of the helicopter chase) will continue until tomorrow, Monday 22nd of June. Anyway, after Mexico, Morocco most be the next best exotic location in "SPECTRE". Some wunderful places in Erfoud (Palm's Hotel) and Tangier (Kasbah de Dar-el-Makhzen) are being used for filming and for stay of cast/crew. Down below the pictures from today:

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    As you can see, the shooting schedule becomes "redder" and "redder" now. No big delay in filming have occurred due to Daniel Craig's knee injury. Everything seems to be tightly scheduled and all filming deadlines are met so far.

    Short legend:
    [CF] = Currently Filming
    [FF]= Filming Finished
    [TBF] = To Be Filmed


    UNITED KINGDOM on-location shooting (total: 29 days, December, February until June) & Pinewood Studio-shooting (total: 99 days, in-between on-location filming, December until June ), also Shooting kick-off Dec. 8th 2015):
    BUCKINGHAMSHIRE, Pinewood Studios [location can be confirmed, kicks off shooting SPECTRE 08.12.2014 & wraps-up shooting SPECTRE 19.06.2015. Typical Austrian Salzkammergut-boats transported to Pinewood, recreations of various on-location sets]:
    --> 08.12 until 14.12:...Interior scenes Bond's apartment, main unit only [FF]
    --> 19.01 until 02.02:...Filming scenes 007-stage, with Jesper Christensen as Mr White, main unit only [FF]
    --> 19.01 until 02.02:...Filming scenes Q-stage, "M"s office, with Ralph Fiennes, Daniel Craig and Naomie Harris [FF]
    --> 02.02 until 17.02:...Filming scenes Q-stage, Hoffler Klinik, with Lea Seydoux & Daniel Craig, main unit only [FF]
    --> 02.02 until 17.02:...Filming scenes 007-stage, SPECTRE-meeting, Palazzo Cadenza, main unit only [FF]
    --> 26.02 until 16.03:...Filming scenes Q-stage, Bond's apartment, with Daniel Craig and Naomie Harris, main unit only [FF]
    --> 02.04 until 16.05:...More scenes Ralph Fiennes 007-stage, Whitehall-related, main unit only [FF]
    --> 01.05 until 09.05:...Filming scenes Q-stage & 007-stage, Kitchen recreation, Underground Quay for Boats, main & 2nd unit [FF]
    --> 25.04 until 28.05:...More scenes Daniel Craig 007-stage, Morocco-related (Daniel Craig returns to Pinewood after knee surgery in New York City) main unit only [FF]
    LONDON, Camden Lock (canals and Hilton Hotel), Notting Hill, Thames River (Vauxhall Cross part), Westminster Bridge, Whitehall [location confirmed, 25 shooting days]:
    --> 15.12 until 16.12:...Boat scene with Rory Kinnear, on Thames River (Vauxhall Cross part) [FF]
    --> 17.12 until 18.12:...Notting Hill, exterior shots, Camden Lock (canals and Hilton Hotel) [FF]
    --> 08.03 until 09.03:...Car scene with 007’s Aston Martin DB5, both inside & exterior (Great Scotland Yard Street, Whitehall), 2nd unit [FF]
    --> 18.04 until 18.04:...Interior shots London City Hall (The Queen’s Walk, London), main unit only [FF]
    --> 17.05 until 18.05:...Boat chase with Daniel Craig and Léa Seydoux, on Thames River (Vauxhall Bridge/Westminster Bridge), main unit [FF]
    --> 22.05 until 24.05:...Filming (interior & ‘rainy’ exteriors) scenes Fiennes, Whishaw, Harris & Daniel Craig (Covent Garden: Rules Restaurant; Whitehall: Westminster Bridge), main unit [FF]
    --> 29.05 until 31.05:...Filming (interior & ‘rainy’ exterior) scenes Fiennes, Whishaw, Harris, Craig, Seydoux & Kinnear (Freemasons' Hall; Whitehall: Westminster Abbey, Horse Guards Parade Place, HM Treasury, Foreign Office, King Charles Street & Grand Scotland Yard; Trafalgar Square: The Mall, Admiralty Arch), main unit [FF]
    --> 29.05 until 29.05:...Car scene with M’s Jaguar XJR, both inside & exterior (Coleman Street), 2nd unit [FF]
    --> 03.06 until 05.06:...Car scene with M’s Jaguar XJR, both inside & exterior (Coleman, Guildhall & Gresham Street) and filming (interior) scenes Drummonds Bank (Trafalgar), main & 2nd unit [FF]
    --> 06.06 until 07.06:...Filming helicopter sequence Part 1, extension of boat chase (Between Vauxhall & Westminster Bridge, Thames River), 2nd unit [FF]
    --> 07.06 until 07.06:...Filming scenes Christoph Waltz, from Rolls-Royce Phantom to Helicopter, extension of helicopter sequence Part 1 (Riverside Gardens, Tate Museum, Victoria Embankment), main unit [FF]
    --> 14.06 until 15.06:...Filming helicopter sequence Part 2 with doubles, extension of boat chase (Between Vauxhall & Westminster Bridge, Thames River), 2nd unit [FF]
    --> 21.06 until 22.06:...Reshoot of boat/helicopter chase (Between Vauxhall & Westminster Bridge, Thames River), 2nd unit [CF]
    WOODSTOCK, Oxfordshire, exterior (interior?) shots of The Blenheim Palace [location confirmed, 3 shooting days]:
    --> 08.02 until 11.02:...Exterior shots Blenheim Palace, doubling for Palazzo Cadenza, Italy. Main unit only [FF]


    MEXICO on-location shooting (total: 18 days, March & April):
    MEXICO-CITY, FEDERAL DISTRICT MEXICO, Shooting Pre-Credits Sequence, during “Día de Muertos” festivities in film (Paseo de la Reforma & Plaza de la Constitución, also called the "Zócalo", celebrations with many extras) [location confirmed, from 20.03 till 01.04]:
    --> 19.03 until 19.03:...Shooting + Rehearsing helicopter sequence (Plaza "Zócalo"), aerial unit [FF]
    --> 20.03 until 21.03:...Shooting “Día de Muertos”-festival (Plaza Tolsa, Calle Tacuba & Simón Bolívar), main unit only [FF]
    --> 22.03 until 25.03:...Shooting sequences with Daniel Craig & Alessandro Cremona (Old senate building, Calle Tacuba & Bolívar, specially designed building wreckage), main unit only [FF]
    --> 24.03 until 24.03:...Exterior shooting Gran Hotel Ciudad de Mexico (Avenida 20 de Noviembre), main unit only [FF]
    --> 25.03 until 24.03:...Close-ups of Stephanie "Estrella" Sigman (Avenida 20 de Noviembre & Museo Nacional de Antropología), main unit only [FF]
    --> 26.03 until 30.03:...Filming skycrapers at Paseo De La Reforma (In particular shooting St. Regis Skycraper & Torre Mayor Skycraper), 3rd aerial unit [FF]
    --> 26.03 until 01.04:...Filming helicopter action sequence & “Día de Muertos”-festival (Plaza "Zócalo" & Xicoténcatl, Centro, Cuauhtémoc), 1st & 2nd unit [FF]
    AEROPUERTO DE ATIZAPAN, CHIAPAS, Further rehearsing and shooting helicopter sequence (near Palenque) [location confirmed, from 01.04 till 2.04]:
    --> 01.04 until 02.04:...Filming final parts of helicopter sequence, doubling for Mexico-City (Aeropuorto de Atizapan, Chiapas, near Palenque), 2nd unit only [FF]
    PALENQUE, CHIAPAS, Further rehearsing and shooting helicopter sequence (Near Maya Ruins & Agua Azul Falls) [location confirmed, from 01.04 till 6.04]:
    --> 03.04 until 06.04:...Filming final parts of helicopter sequence, doubling for Mexico-City (near Maya Ruins of Palenque, filmed there for safety precautions), 2nd unit only [FF]
    VILLAHERMOSA, CHIAPAS, Stay for 2nd unit crew [confirmed for stay for cast and/or crew]
    THE CHIHUAHUAN DESERT, on the Mexican Altiplano Plateau [location cancelled by EON]
    Shooting for PTS on the great ALTIPLANO PLATEAU [location cancelled by EON]


    ITALY on-location shooting (total: 24 days, February & March, for Rome location):
    ROME, LAZIO REGION, Car chase with Aston Martin DB10, Jaguar C-X75, Fiat 500 & police cars (Lotus Evora) (Via Quattro Fontane, Colosseum, Corso Vittorio Emanuele II, Lungo Tevere, Tiber River, Ponte Visto, Piazza Trilussa, Villa Fiorano) [location confirmed, from 19.02 till 14.03]:
    --> 18.02 until 19.02:...Exterior shots Museo della Civiltà Romana, doubling cemetery, main unit only[FF]
    --> 20.02 until 21.02:...Shooting handover AM DB10 to 007, main unit only [FF]
    --> 22.02 until 22.02:...Shooting Villa Fiorano (just outside Rome) & Appia Street, main unit only [FF]
    --> 23.02 until 24.02:...Shooting parachute landing (Ponte Sisto, Piazza Trilussa) main unit only [FF]
    --> 24.02 until 26.02:...Shooting car chase (Corso Vittorio Emanuele II), 2nd unit only [FF]
    --> 25.02 until 28.02:...Shooting Fiat 500 scene (Via Plauto,Via dei Corridori), 2nd unit only [FF]
    --> 25.02 until 27.02:...Shooting Jag. C-X75 & AM DB10 (Via Properzio), 2nd unit only [FF]
    --> 28.02 until 03.03:...Shooting Jag. C-X75 & AM DB10 (Near Vatican: Via della Conciliazione, Via dei Corridori, Via del Mascherino & Borgo Vittorio), 2nd unit only [FF]
    --> 04.03 until 04.03:...Shooting the Wall Ride (prepped Tiber River bank), 2nd unit only [FF]
    --> 05.03 until 06.03:...Shooting Steps (prepped Steps, Via degli Scialoja), 2nd unit only [FF]
    --> 07.03 until 09.03:...Shooting Jag. C-X75 & AM DB10 (Fountain Garibaldi, Via Nomentana, Via Pola & Porta Pia), 2nd unit only [FF]
    --> 10.03 until 10.03:...Shooting Vine Covered Wall Street (Tiber River bank, Via Panisperna), 2nd unit only [FF]
    --> 11.03 until 14.03:...Shooting Jag. C-X75 & AM DB10 (Ponte Sant Angelo & Ponte Mazini, near Ponte Sisto), 2nd unit only [FF]
    --> 12.03 until 13.03:...Aerial shots Rome, Roma Province, Lazio, 3rd aerial unit [FF]
    CASERTA, il Palazzo Reale di Caserta [location cancelled by EON]
    ROME, Cemetary di Verano [location cancelled by EON]


    MOROCCO on-location shooting (total: 32 days, March & April, June & July, for both Ouijda, Erfoud & Tangier, also Shooting wrap-up SPECTRE, July 5th 2015):
    OUIJDA, Oriental Desert Express (Ouijda to Bouarfa), plus other extior shots by 2nd unit [location confirmed, 7 shooting days]::
    --> Summer/Fall 2014:...Exterior shots of desert and Oriental Desert Express [FF]
    --> 27.03 until 30.03:...Establishing shots near Oujda, 2nd unit only [FF]
    ERFOUD, establishing shots, near Palm's Hotel, 1st and 2nd unit [location confirmed, 19 shooting days]:
    --> 24.03 until 26.03:...Establishing/Exterior shots near Erfoud, 2nd unit only [FF]
    --> 20.06 until 26.06:...Exterior shooting Palm's Hotel, main unit [CF]
    --> 27.06 until 05.07:...Shooting with Daniel Craig & Léa Seydoux on location (Desert near Erfoud), main unit only [TBF]
    TANGIER, large set to be build near Tangier Kasbah & Energy Factory [location confirmed, 13 shooting days]:
    --> 05.06 until 10.06:...Exterior shooting near gas tanks, large set being build on location, 2nd unit only [FF]
    --> 20.06 until 26.06:...Exterior shooting Kasbah Dar-el-Makhzen (Historical Sultanate Fortress), main unit [CF]
    --> 20.06 until 26.06:...Shooting with Daniel Craig & Léa Seydoux on location near Kasbah Dar-el-Makhzen, main unit [CF]
    ERFOUD, Palm's Hotel [confirmed for stay for cast and/or crew]
    CASABLANCA [location cancelled by EON]
    MARRAKECH, Atlas Mountains [location cancelled by EON]


    AUSTRIA on-location shooting (total: 33 days, December until February, for all locations combined):
    OBERTILLIACH, EAST-TIROL. Large wooden alpine house, Gostenwald forest, Obertilliach village [location confirmed, 9 shooting days]:
    --> 14.01 until 18.01:...Action sequence with plane inside Gostenwald, location around "Bond House" [FF]
    --> 16.01 until 17.01:...Scenes shot inside Obertilliach, with actors Ben Whishaw and Detlef Bothe [FF]
    --> 29.01 until 30.01:...Continuation action sequence black airplane, wings cut off, 2nd unit only [FF]
    KARTITSCH, EAST-TIROL. Chase sequence on ski slopes with view over Kartitsch (well-known for families with kids), on the Gailtalstraße (view over Birgler Kapelle), inside Kartitsch village [location confirmed, 7 shooting days]:
    --> 02.02 until 06.02:...Chase sequence on slope with skidoos, cars, ski's, pistenbullys, 2nd unit [FF]
    --> 06.02 until 08.02:...Chase sequence on Gailtalstraße (view over Birgler Kapelle), 2nd unit [FF]
    SÖLDEN, WEST-TIROL. Kicked off shooting in Austria (10.12.2015). Ötztal Glacier Road at Rettenbachferner Glacier, Tiefenbachferner Glacier, 3S Cable Car & IceQ Restaurant, 3040m altitude at Gaislachkogl Mountain [location confirmed, 17 shooting days]:
    --> 10.12 until 13.12:...Action sequence at road & road tunnels at the Tiefenbachferner Glacier [FF]
    --> 07.01 until 10.01:...Sequences inside 3S Cable Car and IceQ Restaurant (doubling for Hoffler Klinik) [FF]
    --> 10.01 until 13.01:...Action sequence at road & road tunnels at the Rettenbachbachferner Glacier [FF]
    --> 10.02 until 17.02:...Action sequence at ski slope no#30 Sölden, 3S Cable Car & Gletscherstraße, 2nd unit only [FF]
    ALTAUSSEE, STYRIA. Lake Altaussee, Jagdhaus Seewiese, log cabin villa [location confirmed, 2 shooting days]:
    --> 05.01 until 06.01:...Shooting at Salzkammergut-boat on Lake Altaussee, spy scene/intro-to-Austria-scene [FF]
    SANKT LORENZEN, Lesachtal, Wellnesshotel Tuffbad [confirmed for a stay for cast and/or crew]
    LIENZ, Grand Hotel Lienz [confirmed for stay for cast and/or crew]
    LAVANT, Dolomiten Golf Hotel [confirmed for stay for cast and/or crew]
    DACHSTEIN, Dachstein Glacier, Styria [location cancelled by EON]
    LESACHTAL, Carinthia [location cancelled by EON]
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    Samuel001 wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    And for his dismissal, when people say EON fired him, that isn't true. Barbara wanted to keep him, but it was Sony that actually ordered the producers to rule him out.

    Brosnan was out as Bond and got the call, at the latest by February 2004; Sony acquired part of MGM that September. So, no, EON started the ball rolling.

    As director Peter Hunt once said: "The star of the James Bond films isn't Sean Connery, Lazenby, or Roger Moore.......it's James Bond himself".

    I don't understand the discussion, as I never brutally dismissed Pierce Brosnan. I just think that behind the scenes Craig's influence is much bigger, as opposed to Pierce Brosnan. In my honest opinion I think Pierce Brosnan took on the Bond-coat flamboyantly, but also a bit too easy. He could have been more critical behind the scenes, he could have opposed certain screenplay choices more strongly. But from all of his press conferences I really never got the idea that he did exactly that. He was just OK with everything.
    I agree @Gustav_Graves.

    PB wanted the role too much and I think the producers knew it. It was something he craved, and something that he used to build off of (including his other movies and his Irish Dreamtime production company). So there was an inherent conflict of interest, because Bond was essentially helping him to achieve all these other commercial objectives - it's difficult to bite/speak truth to the hand that's feeding you, so to speak.

    DC is different. He's more low-key and appears to put Bond first (rather than other objectives). He prepared very well for the part on CR. Circumstances helped too (QoS writer's strike allowed him involvement in the script rewrites), but I think he had more credibility with Babs/Michael from the get-go because he is an actor's actor and attracts high calibre actors to the franchise who want to work with him. Moreover, I think he just has a very good relationship particularly with Babs, and that's very important as we know for career advancement. Roger Moore had the same thing going with Cubby.

    I always felt PB with Babs/Michael was professional, but not so trusting, so they were less likely to listen to his input even if it was warranted and correct.


    And let's not forget Sean Connery @BondJames. If you read Taschen's "007 Archives" (I'm so glad I own this masterpiece), you know that also during pre-production of the first three Connery-films, lengthy brainstorm sessions about the screenplay were held (With director's Terence Young, Guy Hamilton, producers Albert Broccoli and Harry Saltzman, and off course actor Connery himself). Sean Connery always made his list of adjustments nd critical comments.

    But it wasn't until "Goldfinger" that his criticism was basically sidelined by director Guy Hamilton. Sean Connery was quite afraid that the screenplay for "Goldfinger" was way too pastiche and cheesy. He was worried that the grittiness of Fleming would be sacrificed a bit too much.

    Those were the early days of Bond off course. And the unprecedented success of the franchise off course made the producers want to have very tight control over the franchise. To such an extend that Connery's uncredited advice was sidelined completely.

    But that's why I am happy the Bond franchise has really grown up. Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson still pull the strings. But it appears they are way less authocratical in their work as compared to their predecessors. Especially with the entrance of Daniel Craig to the franchise, I have the feeling the current Bond producers think way more on similar levels with their cast- and crew members. During production of a Bond film they seem to 'outsource' certain creative decisions to, let's say, Daniel Craig and Sam Mendes, a bit more.

    That's very interesting @Gustav_Graves. I actually just watched GF recently after many years, and thought exactly the same thing. Despite the film being iconic in the eyes of many, I find it quite a step back compared to DN, FRWL & even TB that followed.

    In the last Bond movie you watched thread I suggested that I felt that Connery and Young brought unmatched genius to the screen and that Hamilton and Connery could not recapture that.

    I must get a copy of the James Bond Archives.
  • BrimarBrimar
    edited June 2015 Posts: 95
    Suivez_ce_parachute wrote: »
    Brimar wrote: »
    Thanks. Didn't know that. I'll try and find it online and compare it to the final product.

    Note that it's also a kind of use of a leak to read the original GE screenplay :)
    Then, when you decide you can read the infos from the leaks about SPECTRE, you'll know why they called P&W back. It's quite something ! It's not a whim, or just making it better...


    I recently read a great article featuring some of the emails and I am grateful P & W came back. The emails are a fascinating look into the twists and turns that went into making SP and just how much changed since the original draft over a year and a half ago.

  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    For me it's THE James Bond bible at the moment ;-). Every time a friend visits my place they immediately walk to that big red book hehe. I bought it for €99 here in Barcelona:

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    I'm planning to buy the other editions as well:
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  • aaron819aaron819 Switzerland
    Posts: 1,208
    Photos from last night:

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  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
    Posts: 3,277
    Alessandro Cremona seems very friendly :D

  • Lio007Lio007
    edited June 2015 Posts: 220
    This newspaper from Morocco claims Christoph Waltz is there:
    http://www.tanger-experience.com/?p=11143

    Saturday June 20th, the filming crew was spotted to the Abdeslam Akaaboune palace. In Kasbah place, buildings and neighborhood were repainted.
    Sunday June 21st, the shooting was done in "fondouk Chejra" and " marché des Tisserands" (it means "weaver market").

    It also claims Monica Bellucci is there (like Daniel Craig, she lodged to Villa Joséphine): I have serious doubts about this.

    Next step: Erfoud

    Take care, some big spoilers are written in this article, especially in the last part ("Quelques indiscrétions..." in French).
  • aaron819aaron819 Switzerland
    Posts: 1,208
    Waltz in Tangier:

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  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, GG, but how is Pierce Brosnan the opposite of being creative? I do recall he inserted his own humour and came up with a few additional dialogues ever since GoldenEye. He was the one who wanted Bond to take a darker path, but they weren't ready to go for it by the time he was holding the Walther. Come now, you cannot discredit the good old Pierce, now, can you? :D

    I agree. Different time and maybe not as conducive relationship but I do recall from the start PB wanted more out of his Bond. I kinda think he gave in by DAD but I remember he did. TWINE was an attempt at that but kinda missed the mark.

  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    Lio007 wrote: »
    This newspaper from Morocco claims Christoph Waltz is there:
    http://www.tanger-experience.com/?p=11143
    Need to check more:

    Saturday June 20th, the filming crew was spotted to the Abdeslam Akaaboune palace. In Kasbah place, buildings and neighborhood were repainted.
    Sunday June 21st, the shooting was done in "fondouk Chejra" and " marché des Tisserands" (it means "weaver market").

    It also claims Monica Bellucci is there (like Daniel Craig, she lodged to Villa Joséphine): I have serious doubts about this.

    Next step: Erfoud

    Take care, some spoilers are written in this article, especially in the last part (in French).

    There are some huge huge spoilers in that Moroccan article! I'm already saddened by reading it :-(. So to everyone else? Be warned.
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
    Posts: 3,277
    Great find @aaron819.

    In other news: REALLY?! :D

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  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, GG, but how is Pierce Brosnan the opposite of being creative? I do recall he inserted his own humour and came up with a few additional dialogues ever since GoldenEye. He was the one who wanted Bond to take a darker path, but they weren't ready to go for it by the time he was holding the Walther. Come now, you cannot discredit the good old Pierce, now, can you? :D

    I agree. Different time and maybe not as conducive relationship but I do recall from the start PB wanted more out of his Bond. I kinda think he gave in by DAD but I remember he did. TWINE was an attempt at that but kinda missed the mark.

    Hence why this was my reaction to @ClarkDevlin, dear @Marketto007 :-):
    Gustav_Graves wrote:
    As director Peter Hunt once said: "The star of the James Bond films isn't Sean Connery, Lazenby, or Roger Moore.......it's James Bond himself".

    I don't understand the discussion, as I never brutally dismissed Pierce Brosnan. I just think that behind the scenes Craig's influence is much bigger, as opposed to Pierce Brosnan. In my honest opinion I think Pierce Brosnan took on the Bond-coat flamboyantly, but also a bit too easy. He could have been more critical behind the scenes, he could have opposed certain screenplay choices more strongly. But from all of his press conferences I really never got the idea that he did exactly that. He was just OK with everything.
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
    edited June 2015 Posts: 3,277
    More pics.

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  • aaron819aaron819 Switzerland
    Posts: 1,208
    Thanks @marketto007
  • moneyofpropre2moneyofpropre2 France
    Posts: 859
    Thanks Lio !
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