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  • walter1985walter1985 Rotterdam
    Posts: 91
    if it is true, it is very very sad.
  • Posts: 3,164
    walter1985 wrote: »
    haven't checked the link yet, but Popcorn Share claims that the full movie is online...

    https://twitter.com/PopcornShare/status/623795767711547392

    This is fake - happens all the time when a big trailer like that is released.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    Posts: 2,138
    I hope Sony rip them a new bum hole.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    Posts: 2,138
    This is a Bond movie made by a Bond fan. CR, QOS, SF was all just a build up to this film I said before this was the case and it looks from the trailer that I wont be let down. Roll on October death file sharer. This movie was made for IMAX those downloading the leak version will be the ones who lose out.
  • edited July 2015 Posts: 4,619
    walter1985 wrote: »
    haven't checked the link yet, but Popcorn Share claims that the full movie is online...

    https://twitter.com/PopcornShare/status/623795767711547392
    Come on! They haven't even finished making the movie!
    =))
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited July 2015 Posts: 5,131
    This is a Bond movie made by a Bond fan. CR, QOS, SF was all just a build up to this film I said before this was the case and it looks from the trailer that I wont be let down. Roll on October death file sharer. This movie was made for IMAX those downloading the leak version will be the ones who lose out.

    Agreed. However, I have no doubt that although I will love it, SP will not be better than CR. CR was the best Bond Film since the golden era of Connery 62-65. Actually 69 as OHMSS was also classic.

  • Posts: 625
    walter1985 wrote: »
    haven't checked the link yet, but Popcorn Share claims that the full movie is online...

    https://twitter.com/PopcornShare/status/623795767711547392

    Haha, it's not possible. Because the movie is not finished.
    Don't worry.
  • walter1985walter1985 Rotterdam
    edited July 2015 Posts: 91
    walter1985 wrote: »
    haven't checked the link yet, but Popcorn Share claims that the full movie is online...

    https://twitter.com/PopcornShare/status/623795767711547392
    Come on! They haven't even finished making the movie!
    =))

    feeling ashamed, hiding under my desk. I think my brains took a holiday after watching the trailer.

  • Posts: 11,119
    RC7 wrote: »
    The first classic villain's lair of the DC era?

    4on7v2K.png

    Absolutely. I find it.....quite scary that.....so many 'zombies' are controlling these computer screens. It's like 'Silva times 1000'
    8-X
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    RC7 wrote: »
    The first classic villain's lair of the DC era?

    4on7v2K.png

    Absolutely. I find it.....quite scary that.....so many 'zombies' are controlling these computer screens. It's like 'Silva times 1000'
    8-X

    Can't wait to see it full screen. There's certainly an Adam vibe, a slightly brutalist concrete structure.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Is it me or the formal dinner bit with Craig in the white tux and Madeleine in her rather classy dress has a 1940s vibe? There was somewhat a Fleming feel to it. Even Craig's jacket lapels were rather large, almost in a 40s fashion.

    Indefinitely extraordinary.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    Posts: 2,138
    suavejmf wrote: »
    This is a Bond movie made by a Bond fan. CR, QOS, SF was all just a build up to this film I said before this was the case and it looks from the trailer that I wont be let down. Roll on October death file sharer. This movie was made for IMAX those downloading the leak version will be the ones who lose out.

    Agreed. However, I have no doubt that although I will love it, SP will not be better than CR. CR was the best Bond Film since the golden era of Connery 62-65. Actually 69 as OHMSS was also classic.

    Tell me after Spectre what you think, from what I am seeing this will blow CR out of the water. Its a much bigger movie in its size of production, locations and story.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    suavejmf wrote: »
    This is a Bond movie made by a Bond fan. CR, QOS, SF was all just a build up to this film I said before this was the case and it looks from the trailer that I wont be let down. Roll on October death file sharer. This movie was made for IMAX those downloading the leak version will be the ones who lose out.

    Agreed. However, I have no doubt that although I will love it, SP will not be better than CR. CR was the best Bond Film since the golden era of Connery 62-65. Actually 69 as OHMSS was also classic.

    Tell me after Spectre what you think, from what I am seeing this will blow CR out of the water. Its a much bigger movie in its size of production, locations and story.

    I think it's very hard to call. CR has become a 'classic' while simultaneously jettisoning a lot of elements that previously defined 'classic'. That's how good it is. SP will really have to go some to better it, I feel. I really struggle to see how this will 'blow CR out of the water', because if it does we're essentially talking about the potential best Bond movie ever, which I refuse to accept based on a trailer alone. I mean this movie could be fantastic and still potentially fall short of CR. It's whether all the elements combine to deliver that certiain 'je ne sais quoi' that will inevitably elevate it to greatness in the Bond pantheon. Roll on October 26th!
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    Posts: 2,138
    RC7 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    This is a Bond movie made by a Bond fan. CR, QOS, SF was all just a build up to this film I said before this was the case and it looks from the trailer that I wont be let down. Roll on October death file sharer. This movie was made for IMAX those downloading the leak version will be the ones who lose out.

    Agreed. However, I have no doubt that although I will love it, SP will not be better than CR. CR was the best Bond Film since the golden era of Connery 62-65. Actually 69 as OHMSS was also classic.

    Tell me after Spectre what you think, from what I am seeing this will blow CR out of the water. Its a much bigger movie in its size of production, locations and story.

    I think it's very hard to call. CR has become a 'classic' while simultaneously jettisoning a lot of elements that previously defined 'classic'. That's how good it is. SP will really have to go some to better it, I feel. I really struggle to see how this will 'blow CR out of the water', because if it does we're essentially talking about the potential best Bond movie ever, which I refuse to accept based on a trailer alone. I mean this movie could be fantastic and still potentially fall short of CR. It's whether all the elements combine to deliver that certiain 'je ne sais quoi' that will inevitably elevate it to greatness in the Bond pantheon. Roll on October 26th!

    I love CR for me it is the best film since FRWL. From everything I have seen of Spectre it oozes vintage class and touches. Bond was a dog on a lead through CR. There is more action with Bond out "ALONE" in the field blowing S"*t up and taking care of business even if he is bending the rules. This is a return to the Connery type Bond. Mallory is so much more in line with what a modern version of what M should be talking to bond like a Delinquent Teenager but knowing the same gets the job done. I think the scenes with Mallory will bring back those memories of the Connery era, with M being all serious and ond making witty puns whcih don't go down well. BRING THIS MOVIE ON!

    We can talk after the film and see whether it lives up to CR or betters it.
  • edited July 2015 Posts: 11,119
    I wrote a trailer review. And it may read as a preposterous piece for many people in here. I admit that I already assume way way too much hehe. But, I was in the mood for some extensive writing hehe. So hell, here you go:
    One thing from the full theatrical trailer is clear, “SPECTRE” seems to be a much bigger production as compared to “Casino Royale” and “Skyfall”. Or perhaps it simply ‘feels’ bigger, and way more traditional. But never in a bad way.
    By: Gert Waterink ║ July 22nd 2015


    Whereas “Skyfall” was very much a sobre and smaller character-driven thriller that really indulged in Bond’s past (his childhood, parents), “M”s past (how Judi Dench ignited the 00-section, and its subsequent mistakes) and Silva’s past (the vengeful ex-MI6-agent), “SPECTRE” seems to be way more about the actual villain’s scheme in its plot and its action thereof. It does ‘feel’ bigger, because this new S.P.E.C.T.R.E.-syndicate is actually channelling Silva’s initial work as a cyber terrorist, but expands it to a much bigger scale. Hence we see a big lair (http://i.cubeupload.com/hjJX7h.jpg) occupied by many cyber-terrorists?

    And it doesn’t stop there. “SPECTRE” seems to be more focused on the action sequences. Obviously the Bond producers wanted to have more action in this film, but luckily it wasn’t simply ‘put there’ as sequences with no real link to the film’s coherent plot. There are at least three clearly identifiable (long) action sequences. From a "Bullitt"-esque car chase through the streets of Rome to helicopter fights in Mexican mid-air and an Austrian snow chase. And they don’t feel cheap. They have been filmed in a gritty realistic style. Perhaps some out-of-the-box-thinking took place, by actually drawing some inspiration from films like “On Her Majesty's Secret Service” and “Ronin”.

    The cinematography is truly breathtaking, Bond-esque, with slightly softer colours as opposed to “Skyfall”. Dutch cinematographer Hoyte van Hoytema obviously knows his work and captures the grandness of the early Bond classics with his wonderful choices for aerial shots and atmospheric colour filters.

    The traditional elements are back as well, but in a refined way. Yes, Bond’s new Aston Martin DB10 seems to have buttons for gadgets. We can actually see its flame throwers in action. But the gadgets seem to be part of a testing-phase. The buttons have been attached in a rather clumsy way on the luxury leather-coated dashboard (http://i.cubeupload.com/RP6Gsy.jpg & http://i.cubeupload.com/yQfOvi.jpg).

    Another example of ‘tradition’ is off course James Bond’s white dinner jacket, garnished with a red carnation (http://i.cubeupload.com/5opJQy.jpg). A reference to “Goldfinger” perhaps? And many other pre-1985 Bond films in which Bond was wearing a white dinner jacket on many occasions?

    Then there’s the trailer music, which is a feast for every Bond fan. And a true homage to John Barry. Not just a homage, because it actually features queues from the “On Her Majesty’s Secret Service”-theme (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f8KXQtitbc).

    But foremost the personal and historical backgrounds of the characters haven’t been sacrificed by the bigger production size of this film. On the contrary, it seems good drama can go hand in hand with more exhilarating and memorable action and even better uttered one-liners (Bond to “M”: “I was taking some overdue holiday”). So the humour came back as well, perhaps in a better way.

    Compared to “Skyfall”, the “SPECTRE”-trailer has a more sinister feeling to it. The reason for that could be the presence of a larger antagonist band of actors. There is not just one villain in “SPECTRE”, there's one big well-organized Bilderberg-esque syndicate full of devoted members. We have henchman Hinx, who does know how to pop out an eye (literally, as you can see here http://i.cubeupload.com/i2EV7o.jpg). And as opposed to Jaws or Oddjob, Hinx seems to be a more gruesome, more cruel sinister bodyguard, who is the executioner of the less refined jobs (referring to the first “E” in the acronym).

    Then there is the mysterious Dr Vogel, who has also an important seat at the S.P.E.C.T.R.E.-conference table (http://i.cubeupload.com/kvJoLm.jpg and http://i.cubeupload.com/n53tQO.jpg). She is played by British actress Brigitte Millar. But so far cast information about her character has been kept secret. Could she be the ‘Rosa Klebb’ of the film?

    And what about Andrew Scott’s character Max Denbigh, who’s being called “C” of the Centre For National Security. Is he playing a double role? There are some rumours he could actually be Ernst Stavro Blofeld (http://i.cubeupload.com/WqF6j8.jpg). One needs to understand that the character Blofeld should possibly re-appear in future Bond films, so big A-listed actors are perhaps not that willing to sign up for the same role in more Bond films. Hence Andrew Scott? Time will tell.

    Like with the first teaser trailer of “SPECTRE”, also this full theatrical trailer seems to be a near perfect edited little movie. It is off course more spoiler-ish than a teaser trailer, but the different nature of “SPECTRE” (more action, more traditional Bond, more humour, big, bigger, biggest) makes the film stand out in this full trailer.

    Where “Skyfall” seemed to be Daniel Craig’s “From Russia With Love” in tone and style, “SPECTRE” seems to be the “Thunderball” of Craig’s tenure. Its $300 Million production budget for me, so far, seems completely justified.

    This film also should feel completely satisfactory, because during the course of 4 Bond productions, every aspect of the franchise has been re-introduced in a slow, well dosed way. No, we didn’t get Bond on a clear-cut mission, assisted by “Q” and his gadgets, fighting Blofeld, all in just one film. It all happened much slower…..thus way more satisfactory. And “SPECTRE” is the next slow step; a more clear-cut Bond mission full of Hitchcock-ian mystery, memorable plot-driven action, again a bit more humour and sinister goosebump-inducing events and secrets.

    Welcome back James Bond! And we’re welcoming you even bigger next November 6th!
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    CR will have one element for me that I don't think any other film will have (unless Martin Campbell comes back). That's the brutality of the film. The fight scenes, the torture, stuff like that. I'm not saying that future films need that, but it's something that I love still to this day.

    Spectre has the opportunity to be the first film to really hearken back to the 60s and make it something special. If it succeeds, it'll be a lot of fun to watch.
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    bondbat007 wrote: »
    CR will have one element for me that I don't think any other film will have (unless Martin Campbell comes back). That's the brutality of the film. The fight scenes, the torture, stuff like that. I'm not saying that future films need that, but it's something that I love still to this day.

    Spectre has the opportunity to be the first film to really hearken back to the 60s and make it something special. If it succeeds, it'll be a lot of fun to watch.

    I think this oozes brutality though. You can hit Bond's balls with a big shipyard rope. But you can also pop out one's eyes. But on the whole, I think the fight sequences between Bond and Hinx will shock us all

    i2EV7o.jpg
  • RC7RC7
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    SPECTRE” is the next slow step; a more clear-cut Bond mission full of Hitchcock-ian mystery, memorable plot-driven action, again a bit more humour and sinister goosebump-inducing events and secrets

    Still not sure the thrust of this movie is clear cut at the moment. It does to all extents seem like the Oberhauser-Bond angle is the beating heart of it. With SF the mcguffin was set up in the trailer, it's a little harder to determine exactly what the mcguffin is with SP, although it seems like it could be 'SPECTRE' themselves.
  • Posts: 11,119
    RC7 wrote: »
    SPECTRE” is the next slow step; a more clear-cut Bond mission full of Hitchcock-ian mystery, memorable plot-driven action, again a bit more humour and sinister goosebump-inducing events and secrets

    Still not sure the thrust of this movie is clear cut at the moment. It does to all extents seem like the Oberhauser-Bond angle is the beating heart of it. With SF the mcguffin was set up in the trailer, it's a little harder to determine exactly what the mcguffin is with SP, although it seems like it could be 'SPECTRE' themselves.

    I think that's exactly the stuff that wasn't really shown in this full trailer. I think the images of that lair with Waltz standing in it....is really telling.

    "SPECTRE" doesn't have a McGuffin, like FRWL, FYEO and SF. But it does have many more smaller McGuffin's I think. In SF Bond's mission is rather clear from the start: Retrieving the harddrive, assassinating the one who stole it, and then going home. In SP it doesn't seem so clear. So perhaps I should not have said...."Hitchcok-ian" :-P. But it oes have more mystery.
  • RC7RC7
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    RC7 wrote: »
    SPECTRE” is the next slow step; a more clear-cut Bond mission full of Hitchcock-ian mystery, memorable plot-driven action, again a bit more humour and sinister goosebump-inducing events and secrets

    Still not sure the thrust of this movie is clear cut at the moment. It does to all extents seem like the Oberhauser-Bond angle is the beating heart of it. With SF the mcguffin was set up in the trailer, it's a little harder to determine exactly what the mcguffin is with SP, although it seems like it could be 'SPECTRE' themselves.

    I think that's exactly the stuff that wasn't really shown in this full trailer. I think the images of that lair with Waltz standing in it....is really telling.

    "SPECTRE" doesn't have a McGuffin, like FRWL, FYEO and SF. But it does have many more smaller McGuffin's I think. In SF Bond's mission is rather clear from the start: Retrieving the harddrive, assassinating the one who stole it, and then going home. In SP it doesn't seem so clear. So perhaps I should not have said...."Hitchcok-ian" :-P. But it oes have more mystery.

    I wasn't actually picking you up on the 'Hitchcock' thing, because I believe there will be a level of mystery to this movie. When I say SPECTRE might be the mcguffin, I mean it in a sense that the thrust appears to be him tracing this 'mysterious organisation', but the real story appears to be something deeper and much more personal between Oberhauser/Bond.
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    Already posted in the Trailer thread but - HI-RES TRAILER SCREENCAPS - 137 of them, at least one per each shot in the trailer: https://www.flickr.com/photos/antovolk/sets/72157656192638072
  • edited July 2015 Posts: 3,274
    RC7 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    This is a Bond movie made by a Bond fan. CR, QOS, SF was all just a build up to this film I said before this was the case and it looks from the trailer that I wont be let down. Roll on October death file sharer. This movie was made for IMAX those downloading the leak version will be the ones who lose out.

    Agreed. However, I have no doubt that although I will love it, SP will not be better than CR. CR was the best Bond Film since the golden era of Connery 62-65. Actually 69 as OHMSS was also classic.

    Tell me after Spectre what you think, from what I am seeing this will blow CR out of the water. Its a much bigger movie in its size of production, locations and story.

    I think it's very hard to call. CR has become a 'classic' while simultaneously jettisoning a lot of elements that previously defined 'classic'.
    In terms of scope, action and locations, we already know that SP is much bigger (it has five action setpieces, and takes place in five countries.) The one thing that I find defines CR as a classic, though, is its story. They already had a blueprint from Fleming.
    And it had a great Arnold score.
    I'm not sure that I am sold on the whole Bond vs Oberhauser relationsship which has been surfacing, but we shall see. Potentially it could be my favorite Craig Bond movie, but there are still unknown factors, like the score, the editing and so forth.
  • RC7RC7
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    Zekidk wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    This is a Bond movie made by a Bond fan. CR, QOS, SF was all just a build up to this film I said before this was the case and it looks from the trailer that I wont be let down. Roll on October death file sharer. This movie was made for IMAX those downloading the leak version will be the ones who lose out.

    Agreed. However, I have no doubt that although I will love it, SP will not be better than CR. CR was the best Bond Film since the golden era of Connery 62-65. Actually 69 as OHMSS was also classic.

    Tell me after Spectre what you think, from what I am seeing this will blow CR out of the water. Its a much bigger movie in its size of production, locations and story.

    I think it's very hard to call. CR has become a 'classic' while simultaneously jettisoning a lot of elements that previously defined 'classic'.
    In terms of scope, action and locations, we already know that SP is much bigger (it has five action setpieces, and takes place in five countries.) The one thing that I find defines CR as a classic, though, is its story. They already had a blueprint from Fleming.
    And it had a great Arnold score.
    I'm not sure that I am sold on the whole Bond vs Oberhauser relationsship which has been surfacing, but we shall see. Potentially it could be my favorite Craig Bond movie, but there are still unknown factors, like the score, the editing and so forth.

    Exactly, at the end of the day it's down to story. The narrative can be epic, regardless of set pieces and locations. Hopefully SP has both. I too am a little wary about the Oberhauser/Bond relationship. I have to say it is the only thing about this film that makes me feel a little uneasy, but hopefully things won't pan out as I fear.
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    I agree with Zekidk. Casino Royale tells a complete and satisfying story. That's the heart of any good film. CR and OHMSS succeed in that by telling a love story embedded at the heart of the plot. There are some Bond films that I actually have to think a bit to remember what the exact plot was (think GE's buried heist plot ... all that -- the EMPs, the satellites, the helicopter, the underwater lair, etc. -- to steal money. And for revenge.)

    I have purposely avoided learning too much about SP so I can't comment on the story. We'll see how complete and/or satisfying it ends up. But I hope it isn't an Austin Powers-type plot about Bond and Dr. Evil (uh, Blofeld) growing up together or being long-lost brothers ... unless Sean Connery plays the role of their father/mentor.
  • Posts: 11,119
    Perhaps.....we understandably draw comparisons with juwels like CR and OHMSS.

    The thing is though, Bond as a character has changed also. Yes, Madeleine Swann in the trailer looks and sounds as complex as Vesper Lynd. She literally asks:
    "Is this really what you want? Living in the shadows? Hunting? Being hunted? Always alone?"

    And while you would expect a very serious, dark and gloomy answer from Bond, as we saw in CR, he now actually utters this, with a frivolous tiny smile:
    "I don't stop to think about it."

    There. He says it with style and without too much thinking :-). So in a way, James Bond has also developed....and changed as a person too. In this adventure, despite all the personal history and historical connections, James Bond feels more at ease, more certain of himself. Thus having slightly more whitt and tongue-in-cheek humour.

    I do agree though with @RC7 that the plot, the story, is vital for every Bond film. And only time will tell if this works out fo "SPECTRE". So far, I am really excited about the trailer. It's truly fascinating to actually see a 4th part in a (loose) quadrilogy.....and see the character James Bond change in almost a decade time: From blunt instrument, emotionally hurt person, to the self-assured, joyous, funny spy.

    This kind of "red storyline" that now will run through all four Craig outings, is quite unique in the franchise.

  • DCisaredDCisared Liverpool
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    Anyone else agree that it looks like DC has lost weight?
  • chipstickschipsticks NOT on TheDanielCraigForum where they think know Daniel Craig personally and Léa and Monica are ugly
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    Is it me or the formal dinner bit with Craig in the white tux and Madeleine in her rather classy dress has a 1940s vibe? There was somewhat a Fleming feel to it. Even Craig's jacket lapels were rather large, almost in a 40s fashion.

    Indefinitely extraordinary.


    hope this answers your question ;)



    Bond girls get a bad wrap for their lack of substance. Usually, they’re pretty stock characters who add relatively little to the story. But “SPECTRE” is changing the nature of that relationship for the better. Bond will finally have equal companions by his side, according to costume designer Jany Temime.

    “Twenty years ago, every Bond girl was dressed up very sexy, and they all wore evening dresses and you could see their boobs,” she told MTV News. “Now, a Bond girl has to be much more sophisticated, she has to be clever, she has to be intelligent, she has to have a job, and so she has to have costumes that are much more adaptable.”

    Temime’s inspiration for Léa Seydoux’s character Madeleine Swann was Grace Kelly. “I wanted something very simple. Expensively simple, yet strong,” she said.

    http://www.mtv.com/news/2118170/spectre-set-secrets/
  • EmilioEmilio Palmyra, Nassau
    Posts: 175
    the music of the trailer from 1:46 to 1:54 is so OHMSS, anyone noticed? hopefully we'll have a Barry Sound this time...
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @Emilio, one of the first things we noticed once the trailer debuted! Very nice added touch to it, I thought.
  • edited July 2015 Posts: 832
    I have this theory that the gunbarrel sequence is going to back at the beginning this time, which is evidenced through it being in the sf (and qos) scripts originally and mendes regretting not having it at the beginning, but the way the trailer ended really confirmed this for me: The gunbarrel is back and the octopuss/glass logo is going to be a part of it
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