SPECTRE Production Timeline

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  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    The poster looks like a great character poster. Would actually like it if they did one for the main cast, show a studio photo then have a photo from the film in the background... But I do agree our fan media section has better designs then this. Not saying it's bad..
    I love Craig's white tux and classic feel but it's not a "wow". I don't know why they included the skeleton figure in the back of Craig... Odd.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    That DAD poster is worse IMO. The SPECTRE one at least has the classic Connery pose. I don't see anything about the DAD poster that reminds me of the earlier films.
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  • RC7RC7
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    That DAD poster is worse IMO. The SPECTRE one at least has the classic Connery pose. I don't see anything about the DAD poster that reminds me of the earlier films.

    Is it prerequisite that all films look like the earlier films?
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    RC7 wrote: »
    That DAD poster is worse IMO. The SPECTRE one at least has the classic Connery pose. I don't see anything about the DAD poster that reminds me of the earlier films.

    Is it prerequisite that all films look like the earlier films?

    It does seem to get that way. There was no hang ups in the 60s about box ticking. Bond wore a tux in only 3 of the first 5 films for example. Now people froth at the mouth if there is a suggestion of Bond not wearing one.
  • RC7RC7
    edited September 2015 Posts: 10,512
    NicNac wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    That DAD poster is worse IMO. The SPECTRE one at least has the classic Connery pose. I don't see anything about the DAD poster that reminds me of the earlier films.

    Is it prerequisite that all films look like the earlier films?

    It does seem to get that way. There was no hang ups in the 60s about box ticking. Bond wore a tux in only 3 of the first 5 films for example. Now people froth at the mouth if there is a suggestion of Bond not wearing one.

    Very true. I find the whole concept truly bizarre, more so because people seem to blindly embrace it. It's like the audience has become as risk averse as the studios. The warmth of familiarity too cosy to resist.
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
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    jake24 wrote: »
    In other news, I've just learned that the film is done, and a rough cut was screened to a selected Sony International team in London this week.

    Any chance we'll be hearing their thoughts?

    It was a very short and generic description. Not from a fan point of view, of course. The person who watched it in London is one of the main heads of Sony Pictures in Brazil.

    "It's a hell of a movie, that's all I can say. I've just seen a non-final version of it, with no effects, but the movie is marvelous. This time we have more humour, action, and the story tied some loose ends from the previous films. Even without all the effects I really loved it"

  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Zekidk wrote: »
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    Oh, how I wish this was real.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    jake24 wrote: »
    In other news, I've just learned that the film is done, and a rough cut was screened to a selected Sony International team in London this week.

    Any chance we'll be hearing their thoughts?

    It was a very short and generic description. Not from a fan point of view, of course. The person who watched it in London is one of the main heads of Sony Pictures in Brazil.

    "It's a hell of a movie, that's all I can say. I've just seen a non-final version of it, with no effects, but the movie is marvelous. This time we have more humour, action, and the story tied some loose ends from the previous films. Even without all the effects I really loved it"

    Thanks Marketto. Good to know.
  • Some here are so result-oriented that I think that IF Spectre doesn't make as much money as it's hoped, then we'll hear from them about how silly it is to have Christopher Waltz in a movie and not to put him on the poster ;)

  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    edited September 2015 Posts: 11,139
    trevanian wrote: »

    If you can show me some instances where a co-producer/associate producer was a significant creative part of the process on a major film (as opposed to just being an assistant line producer or, more likely, somebody's agent or an early writer on the project, I'll defer to your knowledge in this matter. Jon Povill on the first trek movie is the only one I'm aware of.

    I don't understand your perception regarding the films I cited either. In both cases, they were clearly courting their star (Crichton had written the novel with Connery in mind, and alien4 couldn't even get greenlit w/o Weaver), so I don't see this as different at all. Perhaps what's laughable is your attempting to distance this from those off-the-top-of-my-head examples.

    The producers guild has made some strides on film credits, but they need to do more to hone it. The only producer credits I'm inclined to take at face value currently are the ones with PGA included on the titles, but it is early days with this I guess.

    If you can't see the significance of EoN crediting their actor as a co-producer then it's a waste of time having this discussion. You mention Alien Resurrection and Rise of the sun, so what? Who cares? Are they EoN Bond movies? No. Lead actors serve producer roles in films and TV all the time, so you name dropping the fims you mentioned does nothing to further your so called argument other than to point out what's common knowledge. When in all of 50 odd years have EoN made such an appointment? The fact is they haven't. Ever; and the fact that something so simple clearly goes over your head proves I'm wasting my time.
  • The significance of Sony crediting Craig as co-producer MAY be linked to something we learnt in the leaks. Only two months before being able to discuss that in the open.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    jake24 wrote: »
    In other news, I've just learned that the film is done, and a rough cut was screened to a selected Sony International team in London this week.

    Any chance we'll be hearing their thoughts?

    It was a very short and generic description. Not from a fan point of view, of course. The person who watched it in London is one of the main heads of Sony Pictures in Brazil.

    "It's a hell of a movie, that's all I can say. I've just seen a non-final version of it, with no effects, but the movie is marvelous. This time we have more humour, action, and the story tied some loose ends from the previous films. Even without all the effects I really loved it"

    Thanks @Marketto007, that sounds good :-bd
  • Hmm, on the other hand, even once the movie is out, all the money talks they had about Craig will still remain "leaks" material ! It's going to be touchy once the movie is out : all the leaks material related to the script can be discussed, I guess, but all the money business that was not supposed to be known ever ?!
  • I think the poster is fine. Some ppl are being overly critical. The over the top, messy Brosnan posters had its time. We could still very well get a painted style poster for IMAX theaters ... like they did for Star Wars (which was not very good BTW).

    The poster was not slapped together in 10 min as some would suggest IMHO. The title of the movie is 'Spectre' and by definition:

    Definition of spectre in English:noun
    1A ghost:
    ‘a dread of spectres and witches affected every aspect of daily life’

    that is what the image in the background eludes to, and its an image of bond himself, which makes it interesting. A ghost from bonds past, it conveys a personal connection. Plus on the surface, it has DC in a classic bond pose and suite for the general audience to know that there is a new bond movie with DC in the cinema. It is should be enough to get their butts in the seats. is the poster great? no is it effective? yes!
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    jake24 wrote: »
    In other news, I've just learned that the film is done, and a rough cut was screened to a selected Sony International team in London this week.

    Any chance we'll be hearing their thoughts?

    It was a very short and generic description. Not from a fan point of view, of course. The person who watched it in London is one of the main heads of Sony Pictures in Brazil.

    "It's a hell of a movie, that's all I can say. I've just seen a non-final version of it, with no effects, but the movie is marvelous. This time we have more humour, action, and the story tied some loose ends from the previous films. Even without all the effects I really loved it"

    ...and so it begins. Off to a good start. Let's hope we have something amazing!
  • RC7 wrote: »
    That DAD poster is worse IMO. The SPECTRE one at least has the classic Connery pose. I don't see anything about the DAD poster that reminds me of the earlier films.

    Is it prerequisite that all films look like the earlier films?

    Well, if so many people -obviously a majority- 'hate' the new "SPECTRE" poster and are longing for the days when posters were actually work of drawing art / painted art (think about the posters from the 1960's), then they are basically longing for posters that look like the earlier films no? At least the Daniel Craig posters look more original than everything that came before Craig.

    By the way, you also posted your own version recently @RC7:
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    I like it a lot, but.....I can't see a radical change in your design as opposed to the official Daniel Craig posters :-).

    This is one of my favorite posters from the 1960's by the way: Cool, stylish, simple. In a way Craig reminds me of Steve McQueen:
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  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    That's kind of the point he's making though. If he can make it willy-nilly in his spare time just for fun, you'd expect experts with a budget and access to superior tools and materials to create something far more impressive.
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    ...and so it begins. Off to a good start. Let's hope we have something amazing!
    Hm, maybe they watched it without any Newman music and half-baked CGI, so they were in optimal conditions eh eh :)
  • doubleoego wrote: »
    That's kind of the point he's making though. If he can make it willy-nilly in his spare time just for fun, you'd expect experts with a budget and access to superior tools and materials to create something far more impressive.

    Then give us some examples. Personally I am a sucker for minimalist posters.
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    At least the Daniel Craig posters look more original than everything that came before Craig.
    That's a ludicrous statement, IMO. Like many have pointed out, the SP poster looks like a rush-job from an amateur. From the awful overexposed lighting on Craig to the copy/paste still of the skull from the trailer. I get that they are trying a new minimalistic style, but an expected blockbuster smash with a budget of 300million $, deserves better than this, IMO.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    edited September 2015 Posts: 11,139
    doubleoego wrote: »
    That's kind of the point he's making though. If he can make it willy-nilly in his spare time just for fun, you'd expect experts with a budget and access to superior tools and materials to create something far more impressive.

    Then give us some examples. Personally I am a sucker for minimalist posters.

    What examples? You posted one of his own manips and conceded it's similarity to the official stuff we're getting. All you have to do is look at that and the contributions from our other members to understand why many are disappointed and underwhelmed by the official posters EoN are putting out.

    Look at this new SW poster

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    More than a passing thought and effort went into it.
  • I don't wish to discuss this any further. Here's a case of ' let's agree to disagree....and respect each other's opinions' :-). I think this, you think that. It's as simple as that :-).

  • The very same poster will look different when you see it 3 meters tall, and when you see it on your screen. Here you look at it like if it was a Blu Ray box, and well, I think even those who doesn't like it as a movie poste will concede it certainly is designed the way a Blu Ray box cover should be these days !

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    doubleoego wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    That's kind of the point he's making though. If he can make it willy-nilly in his spare time just for fun, you'd expect experts with a budget and access to superior tools and materials to create something far more impressive.

    Then give us some examples. Personally I am a sucker for minimalist posters.

    What examples? You posted one of his own manips and conceded it's similarity to the official stuff we're getting. All you have to do is look at that and the contributions from our other members to understand why many are disappointed and underwhelmed by the official posters EoN are putting out.

    Look at this new SW poster

    forceposter2.jpg

    More than a passing thought and effort went into it.

    The SW poster is VERY old fashioned and from a very different genre.
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    doubleoego wrote: »

    Look at this new SW poster

    forceposter2.jpg

    More than a passing thought and effort went into it.

    Really? Just because more is better? What I see is just a frame with all main characters and some vehicles, who do not much more then just being there. What thoughtfulness do you see in it? Do they tell a story? Is there any hidden meaning? I don't think so.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    This SW poster is also a big-time call back to Star Wars posters of yore. I believe they even got the same artist back to create the new posters.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    edited September 2015 Posts: 11,139
    Germanlady wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »

    Look at this new SW poster

    forceposter2.jpg

    More than a passing thought and effort went into it.

    Really? Just because more is better? What I see is just a frame with all main characters and some vehicles, who do not much more then just being there. What thoughtfulness do you see in it? Do they tell a story? Is there any hidden meaning? I don't think so.

    The poster looks like more effort went into it than a picture of Craig just standing there. You're right, the frame shows everything what to expect, Spectre should have done something similar. No car, no Bond girl, no villain, no nothing. Just Bond standing there, arms folded. The thoughtfulness I see in the SW poster is more than what obviously went into SP's. Meaning? Story? Er, you look at the poster and you see everything you mentioned the frame contains and know it's going to be an action packed SW movie worth seeing.

    SW is bigger than Bond, that's a movie series that could easily get away with extreme minimalist posters but guess what? They don't and actually bother to put some effort into it because unlike the folks at EoN, they actually give a damn.
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    People complain that the SP poster has too little and is too nostalgia driven. Now as a counter example you show us a SW poster that is very nostalgia driven and has many characters striking pauses holding guns or other weapons. Hardly a poster that is original or has much thought put into it. It looks like a SW poster.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Ludovico wrote: »

    The SW poster is VERY old fashioned and from a very different genre.

    The genre doesn't matter. Many people here are calling for the Bond posters to recall that of old which were similar in design and creativity to the SW posters. The point is, old style or contemporary, Bond fans it seems aren't that fussed. Where the problem lies is within the all too apparent lack of creativity and excitement that should be going into these posters.

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