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  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    Where can we buy those posters?!!?!
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    Posts: 4,341
    I cannot help but feel that we are being observed by EONs marketing branch as a test audience to see how various poster designs are received. At least we seem to have finally found a design that most here are happy with...
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    I think DC looks better in the dark suit vs. the white tux. It's more 'spy' (including his more serious expression here) while the other one was more glamour/casual. I would have preferred if they had changed up Seydoux' outfit for this new poster as well, just to make it different, but I'm ok with it.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    zebrafish wrote: »
    I cannot help but feel that we are being observed by EONs marketing branch as a test audience to see how various poster designs are received. At least we seem to have finally found a design that most here are happy with...

    We definitely are, so let's all choose our words carefully.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    I think I am the only one who prefers the earlier released posters :-P. I especially love the standee poster. Simple, and more Bond-esque as opposed to the posters that were released today. But has a funny smirk on his face. And I adore Bond in that white tuxedo. Trendsetting again. I also prefer the gold fonts:

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  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    Who knows when we'll start to see previews of the soundtrack?
  • antovolkantovolk
    Posts: 3,164
    jake24 wrote: »
    Who knows when we'll start to see previews of the soundtrack?

    Next month...

  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,124
    Absolutely gorgeous posters.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    edited September 2015 Posts: 5,745
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    These are fannnn tastic
  • JWPepperJWPepper You sit on it, but you can't take it with you.
    Posts: 512
    The newer ones are much better, love the use of colors.
  • AgentJM7AgentJM7
    Posts: 421
    Weren't we spoilt yesterday? Some great bits of publicity. The TV spot is good and I love the dialogue between Bond and Madeleine - it reminds me of the "half-monk, half-hitman" interaction in Casino Royale (which I still think had the best dialogue of the Craig era). The noise of the helicopter spin is chilling and epic. The problem I have with TV spots is that any action they include is always just snippets - so you don't get to see much detail. But we won't have to wait long to see the whole thing anyway. How many days now?

    The posters are spot on. If that does become the final poster - we've got the best one since CR simply for the blend of colours. Like the suit, although still think I prefer him in Brioni. Brilliant, anyway.
  • Pajan005Pajan005 Stockholm, Sweden
    edited September 2015 Posts: 432
    I was watching the new TV spot and I noticed that the shot of Bond firing in Austria has been touched up a bit since the last trailer.

    First TV spot
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    Full Trailer
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    Second TV spot
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    As you can see the first TV spot uses another take and it's not as cropped as in the other trailers/spots. The grading has been changed a little from a more bright tone to a more green-ish one. I always like when you see some small changes on shots when trailers are releases. It shows that the movie is being worked on
  • nikos78nikos78
    Posts: 150
    Pajan005 wrote: »
    I was watching the new TV spot and I noticed that the shot of Bond firing in Austria has been touched up a bit since the last trailer.

    First TV spot
    1hw46w.jpg

    Full Trailer
    2hz1glu.jpg

    Second TV spot
    119q6oj.jpg

    As you can see the first TV spot uses another take and it's not as cropped as in the other trailers/spots. The grading has been changed a little from a more bright tone to a more green-ish one. I always like when you see some small changes on shots when trailers are releases. It shows that the movie is being worked on

    Good point. I think it's obvious that the general tonality and contrast in the latest tv spot shots have improved in comparison with the previous trailers
  • GermanladyGermanlady
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3230424/Daniel-Craig-s-sharp-suited-007-teases-fans-smouldering-new-TV-advert-Spectre.html
  • BrimarBrimar
    Posts: 95
    nikos78 wrote: »
    Pajan005 wrote: »
    I was watching the new TV spot and I noticed that the shot of Bond firing in Austria has been touched up a bit since the last trailer.

    First TV spot
    1hw46w.jpg

    Full Trailer
    2hz1glu.jpg

    Second TV spot
    119q6oj.jpg

    As you can see the first TV spot uses another take and it's not as cropped as in the other trailers/spots. The grading has been changed a little from a more bright tone to a more green-ish one. I always like when you see some small changes on shots when trailers are releases. It shows that the movie is being worked on

    Good point. I think it's obvious that the general tonality and contrast in the latest tv spot shots have improved in comparison with the previous trailers

    I noticed also that the black levels seem to have been increased in the newest TV spot and the overall sharpness looks more prominent as well. At least it looks that way on my screen. Most noticeable in the shot of Bond crossing the Austrian lake.


  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    Pajan005 wrote: »
    I was watching the new TV spot and I noticed that the shot of Bond firing in Austria has been touched up a bit since the last trailer.

    First TV spot
    1hw46w.jpg

    Full Trailer
    2hz1glu.jpg

    Second TV spot
    119q6oj.jpg

    As you can see the first TV spot uses another take and it's not as cropped as in the other trailers/spots. The grading has been changed a little from a more bright tone to a more green-ish one. I always like when you see some small changes on shots when trailers are releases. It shows that the movie is being worked on

    These shots instantly remind me of metal gear solid, where snake gets past the infra red beams of the tank hanger, before his battle with vulcan raven in the snowy canyons.

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  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
    Posts: 2,541
    Great eye, @Pajan005! And great news! We have discussed about the look of Mexico previously...
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    I'm pretty sure those shots are edited specifically for the trailer.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    Maybe it's just me but in the trailer, not the TV spot they show bond looking in his rear view mirror and I swear it's not Craig but a stunt double? Call me crazy but if you pause it right when he flips the switch causing the fire to come out you can see his face in the mirror...
  • Pajan005Pajan005 Stockholm, Sweden
    edited September 2015 Posts: 432
    Thanks @ggl007.
    Another color change I noticed is this one:

    Trailer.
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    New TV Spot.
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    This shot worries me a little bit, because I like the blue tone to these scenes. It feels too dark in the new Spot. I hope it's not like this in the final film.

    EDIT:
    @CASINOROYALE It is Craig's face in the car mirror. I understand what you mean why it looks strange. I think it's because the mirror stretches his face more wider and it looks like someone else. If you stretch the screenshot out making it less wide you can see it's Daniel.

    Original
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    Edited
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  • Suivez_ce_parachuteSuivez_ce_parachute
    edited September 2015 Posts: 2,015
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure those shots are edited specifically for the trailer.
    Yes, and even some takes of some shots can be made specifically for the trailer (I saw that on a French set). Kad & O even made a successful gag in a movie of them (gorgeous girls cross the screen for no reason and the person in charge explain "ah yes, this is for the trailer !")

  • MattedwardsukMattedwardsuk
    Posts: 55
    Hi guys, I typically don't post but come on daily to see what's going on. As someone who does a lot of editing work, my guess is that a different LUT (bit like a colour scheme) has been applied by the trailers editor. Especially as it's being carried out externally. My guess would be that once the master edit is locked, then and only then will the final colouring grading be done as the final step along with audio work.
  • BrimarBrimar
    edited September 2015 Posts: 95
    Pajan005 wrote: »
    Thanks @ggl007.
    Another color change I noticed is this one:

    Trailer.
    Screen_Shot_2015_09_11_at_14_50_44.png
    New TV Spot.
    Screen_Shot_2015_09_11_at_14_50_48.png

    This shot worries me a little bit, because I like the blue tone to these scenes. It feels too dark in the new Spot. I hope it's not like this in the final film.

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that all shots: color grading-wise, contrast, sharpness, saturation, et.. are in flux until the final DI that probably has not been done yet.
  • MattedwardsukMattedwardsuk
    Posts: 55
    I forgot to post a typical example of this:

    https://youtu.be/qi94JM3zkxk

    This also shows the evolution of VFX throughout the timeframe of post. A bit like the screens in Skyfall where Silva is introduced and Chris Corbold being added as the driver of tube train.
  • MattedwardsukMattedwardsuk
    Posts: 55
    Brimar wrote: »
    Pajan005 wrote: »
    Thanks @ggl007.
    Another color change I noticed is this one: That's pretty much the way it works. I was told by an industry insider that on Tom Cruise's film Oblivion changes were being made up to a week before it's release as the production team wrestled to get the right balance. Skyfall also heavily re-worked Patrice's death. The trailers version is totally different from what actually appeared in the film, I believe it was changed to a digital version for censorship purposes.

    Trailer.
    Screen_Shot_2015_09_11_at_14_50_44.png
    New TV Spot.
    Screen_Shot_2015_09_11_at_14_50_48.png

    This shot worries me a little bit, because I like the blue tone to these scenes. It feels too dark in the new Spot. I hope it's not like this in the final film.

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that all shots: color grading-wise, contrast, sharpness, saturation, et.. are in flux until the final DI that probably has not been done yet.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    It is even possible that some of the footage shown in trailers is not in the final cut of the movie. Such things happen quite often.
  • MattedwardsukMattedwardsuk
    edited September 2015 Posts: 55
    As a comparison of the trailer showing different Patrice deaths in Skyfall and then the actual version used in the film, just hows fluid things change.

    Film Version looks entirely CGI based with him bouncing off the side of the building
    https://youtu.be/kUyrRn-9rEQ?t=146

    Trailer Version he falls forwards head first, looks like a practical stunt effect.
    https://youtu.be/6kw1UVovByw?t=128
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2015 Posts: 23,883
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    It is even possible that some of the footage shown in trailers is not in the final cut of the movie. Such things happen quite often.

    Yes, that's true sadly. Like the famous Hitchcock Patrice fall in the SF trailer (which was changed for the final film) or DC jogging in London (which was omitted in the final cut) or Silva's up tempo delivery of
    "So what's yours?" in the trailer (which was changed for a more boring delivery, imho, in the final film).
  • antovolkantovolk
    edited September 2015 Posts: 3,164
    Mattedwardsuk wrote: »
    Hi guys, I typically don't post but come on daily to see what's going on. As someone who does a lot of editing work, my guess is that a different LUT (bit like a colour scheme) has been applied by the trailers editor. Especially as it's being carried out externally. My guess would be that once the master edit is locked, then and only then will the final colouring grading be done as the final step along with audio work.

    Yeah, and that's even more likely for TV spots as they tend to be done on a tighter timeframe - they just put whatever the 'latest' version of the footage is.

    Usually the way this works for trailers is that the editors are given a watermarked workprint of the film and some of the dailies if needed to edit from and then once the edit is locked the studio inserts all the title cards, replaces the watermarked footage with the latest HQ footage, and then colour-times the footage and mixes the audio for release.

    With Bond it's a bit different as it's more closely done in conjunction with Barbara/MGW/Mendes, with Chinagraph always consulting with them, as opposed to several trailerhouses doing variants and then EON picking which one to release. And I've mentioned this here before - the editors and Jeff Pfeifer who does the score work in very close conjunction.
  • MattedwardsukMattedwardsuk
    Posts: 55
    It is funny how things change. I'm a massive fan of Paul Ritter who played Guy Haynes and remember a Sunday newspaper supplement showing him with Mr White from the deleted segment at the end of QOS. I'd love to have seen it and I believe it floated about online for a bit...just have the still to think on..

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