SPECTRE Production Timeline

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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    jake24 wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Looking forward to Graham Norton later! <:-P
    Any idea when it airs?

    10:30 BST
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Great clips
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Thanks.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Pretty funny.
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  • Big, big fan of Norton and his show. Last year's Skyfall special was terrific fun for instance.

    However tonight, I was left more than a little underwhelmed. I understand much can't be said about the film until it's released, but it felt like Norton was clutching at straws with material to fill the desired time slot. It's important to take the show at face value of course, since afterall it is camp and all that, but surely someone of his experience and talent as an interviewer, could come up with more interesting questions than, 'So Daniel, you get injured doing these movies' etc. I mean for christ ask ...

    Waltz, whilst it looked like he enjoyed the show and it's format, was incredibly under-used too. Anybody who's watched Waltz's interviews knows there rarely dull -- he's witty, intriguing, and incredibly good at providing insightful answers to even the most bland questions. But instead, he was sat on the end of the coach, hardly acknowledged.

    Massive missed opportunity.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    mfmcgreal wrote: »
    Big, big fan of Norton and his show. Last year's Skyfall special was terrific fun for instance.

    However tonight, I was left more than a little underwhelmed. I understand much can't be said about the film until it's released, but it felt like Norton was clutching at straws with material to fill the desired time slot. It's important to take the show at face value of course, since afterall it is camp and all that, but surely someone of his experience and talent as an interviewer, could come up with more interesting questions than, 'So Daniel, you get injured doing these movies' etc. I mean for christ ask ...

    Waltz, whilst it looked like he enjoyed the show and it's format, was incredibly under-used too. Anybody who's watched Waltz's interviews knows there rarely dull -- he's witty, intriguing, and incredibly good at providing insightful answers to even the most bland questions. But instead, he was sat on the end of the coach, hardly acknowledged.

    Massive missed opportunity.

    Agreed.
  • I mean -- even when he did acknowledge Waltz, it was firstly, to ask him to draw a picture on a pink balloon, and secondly, make the man sit through a clip that -- god knows how many times has been show on American talk shows -- of his younger self performing stupidly, which is probably now just more annoying than amusing to the man.

    Harris, whilst lovely and polite, offered absolutely nothing. The show would have benefited from either just Craig and Waltz, or Ralph Fiennes instead of Noami.

    I spent the entire duration of the episode just screaming at Norton in my head -- 'You've got Christop Waltz on your talk show for Christ sake ... Christop Waltz!'

    Sadly, Norton failed to recognise the above, and instead, treated the man as if he was an extra in the film who won a special competition for a seat on the sofa alongside the cast.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Umm he did call him a horse.... suppose that's something.
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    The Norton shows was very flat to me, just nothing came out of it, bit of a non-event,
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    Did smith preform the song ?
  • DCisaredDCisared Liverpool
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    hthomas20 wrote: »
    Did smith preform the song ?

    Yes very well actually.
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    Hope that makes its way online asap
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited October 2015 Posts: 10,591
    antovolk wrote: »

    Fantastic interview. It's not very often these things are as interesting and in depth as that.

    Also, for those who missed Graham Norton:



  • edited October 2015 Posts: 2,599
    Germanlady wrote: »
    Seems, after many asked for more fun and less drama, now that we got that, some don't like it. Others do. IMO the audiences will pretty much go for it. Its fun, its entertaining, what you ask from a popcorn blickbuster

    Personally, I've never asked for more fun and less drama. I've always wanted a return to the lavish fairy style type sets that we got in the Connery and Moore era and the books, so it's good to see them return but I have always hoped that there would be NO more comedy than we got in Casino Royale. This film struck a decent balance between seriousness and comedy. In addition, some drama/character movement along the lines of what we had in OHMSS, CR and Skyfall is what I wanted to see continue in SPECTRE and there's no reason why this couldn't have been the case, as it's not as though it weighed heavily in the slightest on the three previous mentioned films. It represented a healthy dose for a Bond film. Many people who complain about this are generally the younger generation of action lovers. Action is not what a lot of the Bond films have been solely about. Also, if Craig utters a one liner after the dispatching of someone it will hinder my enjoyment of the film. I like consistency. Such one liners in such scenes I think work entirely better in the Bond films that have largely centered around comedy such as in the Moore films and later Connery outings. Brosnan was hopeless at them so they certainly didn't work in his disastrous Bond flicks.

    SPECTRE sounds like it'll have a bit of drama in terms of exploring a bit more of Bond's backstory but based on what I've read it does seem like the Swann character won't get the justice she deserves. Unfortunately, I always expected Bellucci's character to come and go as fast as the blink of an eye. This is Bond.

    Anyone, how do you put text in spoilers again?
  • skropper13skropper13 United States
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    I'm really starting to love the title song... I know I'm in the minority but it seems like a classic bond song with some new era flavor the more I listen to it.
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    skropper13 wrote: »
    I'm really starting to love the title song... I know I'm in the minority but it seems like a classic bond song with some new era flavor the more I listen to it.

    I admit a slight change in heart after hearing it live on Graham Norton.
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    skropper13 wrote: »
    I'm really starting to love the title song... I know I'm in the minority but it seems like a classic bond song with some new era flavor the more I listen to it.

    I've always liked it. :)
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    As much as I can sympathise with those wanting more depth from the Norton show and yes Waltz was a little sidelined but a show like this is never going to hardcore Bond fan material.

    Norton is a very good light entertainer, Craig and co knew what they were there to do and they did it, Daniel seemed very relaxed and enjoying himself.

    Jonathan Ross' program was more for the fan and that did a great job, his boyish enthusiasm rubbed off on both Craig and Waltz and probably got the best interviews yet.

    I'll wait to see how TWOTW is on the credits as I'm sure DK's opening titles will elevate it but this is not a classic and the divisive opinions that it has caused show that.

    Some may well like it but I'm not going to defend just because it's a Bond theme. My Wife who's heard Sam Smith more than me (I personally avoid any of his material after a listen a few times on the radio and TV), she says that it just sounds like a Sam Smith song with orchestrations added nothing that screams Bond in the slightest.

    I don't think Adele's song is a classic but it felt like a Bond theme and YKMN was not typical of Cornell, he definitely styled into a Bond theme with Arnold's input. Even Jack White's much maligned AWTD was not entirely typical of his output but it at least sounded Bondian.

    I know Sam & Babs have gushed over it but if he'd been some up and comer who was getting noticed and submitted this theme and not the sensation he is, however much they liked the song they never would have given it a second thought. The moment the press conference was over the interviews consisted of how about Sam Smith to Mendes and crew?

    Then the media jumped on it and it went from there, they were swayed by popular opinion. Just because someone is the biggest thing around doesn't make them instantly the right fit but the success of Adele drove their desire to get another smash hence hiring him.

    Yes it's done well here first Bond no. 1 (not that is hard to do in the UK anymore) but the rest of the world have not caught on, not like Adele and I very much doubt this will get a nomination let alone an actual Oscar.

    Anyway the film looks and sounds terrific, I think Newman's approach is to suit what's on the screen and melody comes if he chooses. Barry was just so good at matching the visuals and also providing memorable melodic music. I just think very few have been able to replicate that like him, Williams, Goldsmith, Schrifin, Morricone and Herrmann.

    I'm sure there are composers out there that could get closer than Arnold and Newman but it will depend on who directs next to who gets the assignment.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited October 2015 Posts: 10,591
    The Spectre world premiere will be live streamed Monday from 5:00 BST.



    Won't be able to catch it unfortunately.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Nice. I'll watch some of it before I leave the office to watch my 8pm showing.

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    This works in Germany, for example, too.

    http://edge1.streamingtank.tv/mission/5602a0c2186d6b563cfa5bfa/
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    You should be able to go back and watch the video of the premiere after it airs.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    Bond could be black, but he’ll never drive an electric car .

    A nice interview with Babs and Michael.
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    Doesn't currently appear to be any coverage on the day in the UK.
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    BTW, what ever happened to crystal ball **walker?
    He came, dropped a little bomb, saying they did something, that makes it impossible for him to appear in the next. Obviously not true.
  • IMO he was not a fraud (but rather, he didn't understand what Mendes told him), but it's better to talk about that in the LEAKS thread.

    He had another scoop anyone will be able to check when SPECTRE is out.
  • New spot!

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