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  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    dragonsky wrote:
    Kind of off topic but (other than SF) what's your fave cinematography in a Bod movie ?

    CR, OHMSS, SF have the best cinematography in the series.
  • One legacy Mr Deakins already created now: A hugely popular topic about cinematography and WHO exactly is going to follow the footsteps of the insanely talented Oscar-nominated cinematographer Mr Deakins ;-). Something Phil Meheux ('Casino Royale') and Dennis Gassner ('Quantum Of Solace') could only dream off ;-).
  • RC7RC7
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    One legacy Mr Deakins already created now: A hugely popular topic about cinematography and WHO exactly is going to follow the footsteps of the insanely talented Oscar-nominated cinematographer Mr Deakins ;-). Something Phil Meheux ('Casino Royale') and Dennis Gassner ('Quantum Of Solace') could only dream off ;-).

    Schaffer lensed QoS. Gassner is the 'returning' Production Designer.

  • Typical bluster from GG - spoekn with such authority but with so little actual knowledge to back it up!

    Best-looking pic is still YOLT.

    Why can't people simply say "Hey Gustav, you made a mistake. It is Schaeffer." Why 'full throttle' attacking on a mistake like that? Why not showing some empathy, respect and friendship on a forum like this? The only thing you do is twisting the actual point I was making in my post. It's a bit sad, no @A_RealBrains?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Why has he not been banned already?

    Looking forward to hearing more about 'Bond 24' in the coming months. Can't believe filming starts by the end of the year. March is almost here.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Typical bluster from GG - spoekn with such authority but with so little actual knowledge to back it up!

    Best-looking pic is still YOLT.

    Why can't people simply say "Hey Gustav, you made a mistake. It is Schaeffer." Why 'full throttle' attacking on a mistake like that? Why not showing some empathy, respect and friendship on a forum like this? The only thing you do is twisting the actual point I was making in my post. It's a bit sad, no @A_RealBrains?

    Perhaps they would if you weren't so blunt with your proclamations, GG. I want to say that as nicely as I can as I don't want to make any enemies on this board.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Ignore the Idiot Troll. Flag the idiot troll and Move On as the Mods and Admins will soon end this invasion of stupidity.
  • edited February 2014 Posts: 2,015
    Why not showing some empathy, respect and friendship on a forum like this?
    Why keeping on writing stuff like the fact that anyone with no academy award nomination like Phil Meheux can be looked upon with contempt if someone with many like Deakins arrived after ? Or be coherent and pray they cast someone else than Mr Daniel Zero Noms Craig, then....
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    While it is certainly a sad thing that Deakins is gone, let's not forget that we still have Mendes, a great half of that filmmaking partnership. Mendes is just as worthy of praise for Skyfall's visuals as Deakins, as it appears at least on the less technical side that Deakins and Mendes were a strong team that brought the film's look to life together. As long as Mendes still has great ideas on how to present the film visually and is given a cinematographer that can aptly capture their shared visions, Bond 24 should be in good hands.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Agreed @Brady. Mendes is an excellent film makers and knows how he wants to present his films. I'm certain Mendes can find someone else who can execute what Mendes has in mind.
  • edited February 2014 Posts: 11,119
    Typical bluster from GG - spoekn with such authority but with so little actual knowledge to back it up!

    Best-looking pic is still YOLT.

    Why can't people simply say "Hey Gustav, you made a mistake. It is Schaeffer." Why 'full throttle' attacking on a mistake like that? Why not showing some empathy, respect and friendship on a forum like this? The only thing you do is twisting the actual point I was making in my post. It's a bit sad, no @A_RealBrains?

    Perhaps they would if you weren't so blunt with your proclamations, GG. I want to say that as nicely as I can as I don't want to make any enemies on this board.

    'Blunt'....'Proclamations'. Hefty word use no? All I wanted to say is, that Deakins did left a legacy. And that ever since Deakins, Bond fans are perhaps looking more closely to future cinematography in Bond films.

    And then, all I did is mixing up Schaeffer with Gassner. I sometimes have that....I am firm in my statements yes. But I 100% backing my posts. And then I mix-up a name. I am stupid. Sorry guys. I should perhaps leave the forum. I never attack people personally, but I do feel that, regardless of that, people are sick and tired of me....even get hugely irritated by me. That is never my intention. So it's better if I leave.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited February 2014 Posts: 8,216
    Typical bluster from GG - spoekn with such authority but with so little actual knowledge to back it up!

    Best-looking pic is still YOLT.

    Why can't people simply say "Hey Gustav, you made a mistake. It is Schaeffer." Why 'full throttle' attacking on a mistake like that? Why not showing some empathy, respect and friendship on a forum like this? The only thing you do is twisting the actual point I was making in my post. It's a bit sad, no @A_RealBrains?

    Perhaps they would if you weren't so blunt with your proclamations, GG. I want to say that as nicely as I can as I don't want to make any enemies on this board.

    'Blunt'....'Proclamations'. Hefty word use no? All I wanted to say is, that Deakins did left a legacy. And that ever since Deakins, Bond fans are perhaps looking more closely to future cinematography in Bond films.

    And then, all I did is mixing up Schaeffer with Gassner. I sometimes have that....I am firm in my statements yes. But I 100% backing my posts. And then I mix-up a name. I am stupid. Sorry guys. I should perhaps leave the forum. I never attack people personally, but I do feel that, regardless of that, people are sick and tired of me....even get hugely irritated by me. That is never my intention. So it's better if I leave.

    That's not what I would want you to do, no. Nobody should ever be forced out of here. I would never want to be. If you made a mistake then that's completely understandable as we all make them.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Typical bluster from GG - spoekn with such authority but with so little actual knowledge to back it up!

    Best-looking pic is still YOLT.

    Why can't people simply say "Hey Gustav, you made a mistake. It is Schaeffer." Why 'full throttle' attacking on a mistake like that? Why not showing some empathy, respect and friendship on a forum like this? The only thing you do is twisting the actual point I was making in my post. It's a bit sad, no @A_RealBrains?

    Perhaps they would if you weren't so blunt with your proclamations, GG. I want to say that as nicely as I can as I don't want to make any enemies on this board.

    'Blunt'....'Proclamations'. Hefty word use no? All I wanted to say is, that Deakins did left a legacy. And that ever since Deakins, Bond fans are perhaps looking more closely to future cinematography in Bond films.

    And then, all I did is mixing up Schaeffer with Gassner. I sometimes have that....I am firm in my statements yes. But I 100% backing my posts. And then I mix-up a name. I am stupid. Sorry guys. I should perhaps leave the forum. I never attack people personally, but I do feel that, regardless of that, people are sick and tired of me....even get hugely irritated by me. That is never my intention. So it's better if I leave.

    No one's forcing you to do anything. Leave or stay it's entirely up to you. However, you do have a proclivity of coming off as unjustifiably arrogant and dismissive to other people's opinions and comments. It's not surprising that at times you're not received warmly. Maybe if you altered your approach in interacting with people you wouldn't feel the way you're feeling right now but the good thing is, at least your acknowledging the adverse effect you sometimes do have on people here and this could be your opportunity to do something about it. Do what you think is best.
  • edited February 2014 Posts: 11,119
    Just one more thing. Please understand that everything I post in here is all for a greater thing: Perfection in a Bond film. One thing you are wrong about: It has never been truly my goal to belittle other poster's opinions directly. Maybe unexpectedly, but never consciously.

    I do think that discussions can be fierce. And they should be. But I never try to attack a poster directly. I always say that the best thing is to agree on disagreements. I always say that in my discussions. And ONCE you feel irritated or agitated by me, then let that inspire you to disagree on....my point, the theme....I wanted to convey in a post.

    Anyway @DoubleoEgo: Thank you for your honesty. This helps my decision.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Just one more thing. Please understand that everything I post in here is all for a greater thing: Perfection in a Bond film. One thing you are wrong about: It has never been truly my goal to belittle other poster's opinions directly. Maybe unexpectedly, but never consciously.

    I do think that discussions can be fierce. And they should be. But I never try to attack a poster directly. I always say that the best thing is to agree on disagreements. I always say that in my discussions. And ONCE you feel irritated or agitated by me, then let that inspire you to disagree on....my point, the theme....I wanted to convey in a post.

    Anyway @DoubleoEgo: Thank you for your honesty. This helps my decision.

    Agreed with @DoubleoEgo, you're no troll @Gustav so don't take any claims of such seriously.
  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
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    @Gustav don't let this troll get to you he is no more than a waste of perfectly good breathing air.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Just to add my voice to say please keep posting with us, @Gustav_Graves.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    edited February 2014 Posts: 11,139
    Just one more thing. Please understand that everything I post in here is all for a greater thing: Perfection in a Bond film. One thing you are wrong about: It has never been truly my goal to belittle other poster's opinions directly. Maybe unexpectedly, but never consciously.

    I do think that discussions can be fierce. And they should be. But I never try to attack a poster directly. I always say that the best thing is to agree on disagreements. I always say that in my discussions. And ONCE you feel irritated or agitated by me, then let that inspire you to disagree on....my point, the theme....I wanted to convey in a post.

    Anyway @DoubleoEgo: Thank you for your honesty. This helps my decision.

    No problem. Again, as others have said, you're not a troll; far from it actually and I know you don't intentionally go out of your way to belittle people but there have been many times where you have; particularly in your quest to convey your opinions which can come off a bit too strong, which isn't necessarily a bad thing but just be mindful that opinions aren't always fact and everyone here has a voice, including you, that rightfully deserves to be fairly heard wether to agree or disagree on matters. That being said, truthfully it would be sad and unfortunate that you felt driven away from here because you know as well as I do that this board/forum is a great community to interact with, especially now as in the next couple of months there's going to be lots to talk about as we head closer to Bond 24's production. However, like I said, do what you think is best for you.

  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
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    A verry fair and gentlemanly post @doubleoego if I may say.
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    I enjoy most everyone on here even those who enjoy razzing me a little about my preferences (hey I love Fleming titles and quantum lol) but I must admit you guys and gals are awesome
  • edited February 2014 Posts: 2,015
    But I never try to attack a poster directly.
    But you wrote jokingly about Phil Meheux, basically for not having an Oscar nomination...

    You keep on writing about Oscar nominations as if it could turn subjective taste into an objective fact that no one can discuss.

    Remember that The Shining didn't receive a single Oscar nomination in any category, but that it had two Razzie nominations... And Daniel Craig has zero Oscar nomination, is he the weak link to Bond perfection, really ?

    In short, you explain that Deakins did the best looking Bond, and that's not surprising because he's got lots of Oscars noms. Never you write "In my opinion, Deakins did the best looking Bond...". You always write things like "Fact : Newman did the one of the best score of a Bond movie, not surprising from someone with so many Oscar noms, goodbye David Arnold, you won't be missed !". With only four more letters "IMHO", you would look far less arrogant...

    Btw, I think I've never seen a single thought from you about the fact for instance that the Alexa camera used to shoot Skyfall simply did not exist for any previous Bond movie ? Maybe you're more fan of the Alexa camera than a fan of Deakins :)

    Once, someone made a crew full of Oscar winners and nominees and box office titans to make the "best Bond" (the director just made The Empire Strikes Back !). Exactly like you want in order to have "Perfection". It gave us Never Say Never Again. Director of Photography ? Douglas Slocombe. Three times Oscar nominee ! The DOP of the Indiana Jones saga ! Look at the cast and crew of NSNA, I think it's "bigger" than Skyfall if the number of crew members with Oscar wins and noms is the main criteria. Does it make it the best Bond then ?


  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Mrcoggins wrote:
    A verry fair and gentlemanly post @doubleoego if I may say.
    Thank you.
    :)
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    Not that fussed about Deakins non return, always thought his work on Skyfall was wildly overrated anyway simply because of his reputation. I am not saying his work was bad just pretty ordinary. You want to see a really good looking Bond movie? That will be either OHMSS or the simply gorgeous You Only Live Twice. Both much better looking films IMO.
  • edited February 2014 Posts: 12,837
    cooperman2 wrote:
    Not that fussed about Deakins non return, always thought his work on Skyfall was wildly overrated anyway simply because of his reputation. I am not saying his work was bad just pretty ordinary.

    I think this applies to Newman but not Deakins (who I thought did a great job).

    Skyfall, The Spy Who Loved Me, On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Quantum Of Solace are the films that stood out to me cinematography wise.
  • cooperman2 wrote:
    Not that fussed about Deakins non return, always thought his work on Skyfall was wildly overrated anyway simply because of his reputation. I am not saying his work was bad just pretty ordinary.

    I think this applies to Newman but not Deakins (who I thought did a great job).

    Skyfall, The Spy Who Loved Me, On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Quantum Of Solace are the films that stood out to me cinematography wise.

    Bond films have a tradition of attracting top-flight cinematographers. I suppose one of the common criticisms that have been made over the series (by some) is that they are all style and no substance, but what style they have.

    Ted Moore went on to win an Oscar for 'A Man for All Seasons'
    Freddie Young was a latter-day Roger Deakins.
    Oswald Morris was Stanley Kubrick's cinematographer.
    Claude Renoir was the grandson of the French painter Renoir
    Robert Elswitt is Paul Thomas Anderson's regular cinematographer.

    David Tattersall, Alan Hume and Alec Mills had all worked on the Star Wars films and had proven they were very adept at big tentpole/special-effects films.

    Mendes will want a big name to do Bond 24 and even if he doesn't hire a 'name' the film will be beautiful regardless. I have the upmost faith that the film will be beautiful - Sam Mendes has yet to make a bad-looking film.
  • cooperman2 wrote:
    Not that fussed about Deakins non return, always thought his work on Skyfall was wildly overrated anyway simply because of his reputation. I am not saying his work was bad just pretty ordinary.

    I think this applies to Newman but not Deakins (who I thought did a great job).

    Skyfall, The Spy Who Loved Me, On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Quantum Of Solace are the films that stood out to me cinematography wise.

    Bond films have a tradition of attracting top-flight cinematographers. I suppose one of the common criticisms that have been made over the series (by some) is that they are all style and no substance, but what style they have.

    Ted Moore went on to win an Oscar for 'A Man for All Seasons'
    Freddie Young was a latter-day Roger Deakins.
    Oswald Morris was Stanley Kubrick's cinematographer.
    Claude Renoir was the grandson of the French painter Renoir
    Robert Elswitt is Paul Thomas Anderson's regular cinematographer.

    David Tattersall, Alan Hume and Alec Mills had all worked on the Star Wars films and had proven they were very adept at big tentpole/special-effects films.

    Mendes will want a big name to do Bond 24 and even if he doesn't hire a 'name' the film will be beautiful regardless. I have the upmost faith that the film will be beautiful - Sam Mendes has yet to make a bad-looking film.

    Style is substance.

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    I would qualify this by saying style is also substance.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Deakins did outstanding, beautiful, and at times stunning work in Skyfall. He did a far from ordinary job on that film. There are other good cinematographers/directors of photography - I just want another top quality person in that role. I would be happy if we got confirmation of that soon. I hope we get news in spring ... I cannot remember what is usually announced early on. Some of you will recall that better than I.
  • Sam Mendes was asked a while back what cinematographers he would like to work with in the future here at 2.30:



    He names Emmanuel Lubezki and Robert Richardson. My vote goes to Lubezki.
  • edited February 2014 Posts: 4,619
    Sam Mendes was asked a while back what cinematographers he would like to work with in the future here at 2.30:

    Great find! Hopefully he can get one of them on board! I'm crossing my fingers for Lubezki.
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