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Brosnan pre-title sequences
I know a lot of people don't appreciate the Brosnan era. Too routine, not hard-edged enough, Pierce can't act etc. etc. etc. Personally I think his time was about 50/50. GE and TND were great but TWINE and DAD are both low on my list. But I think most people would agree that his PT sequences were great. Even a very disliked film like DAD with its opening surfing, meeting Moon/Graves, the hovercraft chase and eventual capture and torture is all pretty cool. I know some people object to the CGI plane sequence in GE and the TWINE boat chase eventually gets absurd, but I prefer all four of Brosnan's openings to the ones in both QOS and SF. So do those of you who hate Pierce's films enjoy these openings or do you simply hate EVERYTHING about these movies?
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I don't hate Brosnan's bond - I feel similar to you - TND is my favourite. GE is good. The other two I can live without. But I think his PTS's are particularly strong - TWINE's is very good. DAD's is ok. GE and TND both very good. But none are better than SF! That is an awesome opening sequence.
and i agree all the pre-titlesequences (Goldeneye especially) are generally awesome
the pre-sequence for Die Another Day is actually one of the highlights of its story (the hoverboard chase with its music is really andrenaline pumping)
TWINE's is the best, no question, even with that stupid underwater tie straightening bit. 14 minutes of terrific action. Every other one they screwed up somehow or other. I'd put TND second best, but there is the plane scene where Brozzer ejects his unwanted passenger with a cord wrapped around his neck. Because of poor editing, we never see him get loose, so why doesn't his head come off? Some of the dialogue is poorly written as well. DAD is just a mess of poor acting and too many bullets, landmines, and flame throwers. And that GE PTS is the biggest offender of them all from this era, which is a shame because it hurts the movie and the new Bond. First you introduce your new Bond hanging upside down in the crapper, that's terrible right there, no sense of class nor style. Other parts are pretty good but the escape defied all sense of reality. All these Russians shooting at an unprotected Bond outside and not one hits the mark? Impossible. And then it really goes down the crapper. There is no way he could catch the plane and pull it out of that nosedive, it's even more physically impossible that what was done in MR, where at least you could at least mount the defense that Moore and Jaws had time. You would have to be a mental midget of the highest order to buy into these 3 PTS sequences, because Bond movies should always be grounded in reality and if you don't understand these points, you don't understand the philosophy of the series.
Personally I think GE is the best of the Brozza PTS's - despite going from the bottom of a dam to the top of a mountain with no explination.
I know its a little detail but I like the way Campbell shoots the scuffle between Bond and the pilot on the runway.
I'm curious as to how you can rationally defend this POV.
Because it has one of the best opening stunts in the series and I like the first close up of Brosnan (after he's punched the guard out on the bog).
Personally I've never had a problem with that whole "toilet intro" either.
(I'd actually take Brozza's "forgot to knock" line over Laz's "this never happened to the other fella"* line too).
*one of the few Bond lines that really does make me wince
:O
Yeah! (out of his era anyway)
Besides the dodgy CG is NOTHING compared to what would come in his later installments.
I like the editing during the take off in that scene (the shots of Brosnan's focused face against the Bond theme is great). I also like the dialogue between Dench and Palmer...but I think its undermined slightly by some blatant stunt doubling in a couple of shots (when Bond jumps off the truck).
I even think that the dialogue between Dench and Palmer is great. The way he looks after realizing how good Bond is as agent it's just rewardable.
I'll agree that the bungee stunt was excellent, that part of the PTS doesn't bother me. Most of it is good. But that toilet scene and what happens after he escaped to the outside of Arkangel really is the drizzling s***s, and in that upside down position I have trouble believing in that one punch KO.
I love George's line there, and felt it was one of the better deliveries he had in the entire film, a nice sense of both humor and irony came across. Don't have a problem with Brosnan's line either, just the premise of it all. He should have just dropped down, delivered the shot, and then the punch line.
Biggest and longest :-S - of the whole James Bond releases, and of course Brosnan was Bond for that one
Goldeneye was very good, except for the asinine free fall 'plane bit where Bond manages to escape an impossible situation and fly away, Ok, it's only a fictitious movie, but it was stupid. But no real complaint for the rest of it, although Bond hadn't seemed to have aged nine years after the incident, when we see him after the title sequences
Tomorrow Never Dies, at the russian arms fair, is one of the highlights of that years release. A very well done and suspenseful bit, but it's a real pity about the rest of the subsequent movie itself
Die Another Day - see the above. But it's a very good watch with the hovercrafts in Korea and Bond 'saved by the bell' etc. But things quickly went downhill as soon as the theme music began to play that year
OHMSS is great but I just don't like that line. I find it really...cheesey. Its like when Brosnan said "you were expecting someone else?" in the GE trailer...except its actually in the final film.
1. The World Is Not Enough
2. Goldeneye
3. Tomorrow Never Dies
4. Skyfall
5. Quantum Of Solace
6. Die Another Day
7. Casino Royale
Favourite Brosnan PTS (and movie) is TND.
GEs has a few plot holes and one very unrealistic moment but it's still great and entertaining. The bungee jump and the shot before it are great, I thought Brosnan beating up the guy having a crap was funny, and the battle in the facility was really good. I'm still not sure how 006 survived that bullet to the head but it sets up the film nicely and Brosnan sliding back on the conveyer belt spraying machine gun fire just looks cool. Plane stunt was a bit naff but I can forgive that because of what came before it.
TNDs is good too. The filthy habit line is funny and the action is good, some of the plane stuff is pretty impressive (the way they fly over eachother like that). It's also fairly tense and it works as a mini Bond movie (which I like).
TWINE has the best one of the Brosnan era and might be the best PTS of the series. The whole bit in the bankers office is good and Brosnan leaping out of the window, sliding down then casually walking off is another one of those moments where he just looks really cool. The boat chase is great, I could've lived without the tie straightening but there's enough there (the police getting drenched, smashing through the restaurant, the corckscrew jump, etc), to make me forgive it. Then we have the final bit on the balloon which sets Renard up as a threatening villian and Bond just managing to hang onto the dome, etc. Epic.
DADs is pretty cool. Does it make sense why they're surfing, no. But it's an impressive stunt. Then there's a cool moment where Brosnan nicks the guys shades and does a cocky grin, Moon unloading on the punch bag then letting a guy fall out, etc. The meeting is pretty tense when Moon finds out who Bond is, and the hovercraft chase is good. Then we have Bond actually failing and getting captured, something I don't think has been in a PTS before.
That said, yes, the PTS were rather good, minus a few flaws. GE and TND were overall solid. TWINE was overlong, it should have ended way before, when Bond leaves the banker's office (and maybe with a glimpse of Renard, as it was supposed to happen or so I have read). The boat chase was good, but it belonged to the main movie, not the PTS.
However, the PTS from TWINE is outstanding in my opinion. It is one of the best in the series. It sets up the whole movie perfectly, and I agree with @DarthDimi in that it's better than the actual film that follows it.
GE, TND, and TWINE feature some of the coolest stunts in Bond history and. Never mind if the CG is bad, like the plane-catching thing in GE. CG doesn't belong in Bond films anyway. And CG made DAD's PTS look like garbage. CG made the entirety of DAD garbage.
You can also see the camera boom and numerous crew members in the shot where the cigar girls boat crashes into the wharf.
Speaking of which wtf is she parked outside MI6 for, in a boat, to fire a few rounds off then try to escape on a huge yacht. To what end?
The whole " I can protect you" scene. First she tries to escape in a boat fully 30 miles in land, then the slowest form of transport ever divised. Those cgi helicopters look like mechanno.
Shoddy.
TND is a great mix of tension and fun, DAD is pretty good, and GE sets up the back story, introduces a new Bond, the villain, and one of cinemas greatest stunts inside 10 mins. Great!
Well, last time I was trying to strangle a dude in the forward seat of a fighter jet, that pilot ALSO pulled the ejection release, and the feeling of the explosive bolts igniting RIGHT UNDER MY ASS distracted me something fierce, and caused me to lose my grip on the cord a bit... ;)
Yep, I buy into a PTS that doesn't completely show the bad guy losing his grip on a cord so I'm an idiot. I think you're clutching at straws with that one.
And what's wrong with DADs? There are lots of bullets flying round, and? CR had the embassy scene where Bond isn't hit at all and his human shield is only hit once, in YOLT and TSWLM, there's a big battle going on around him but nobody ever hits Bond, in GE he's not hit once in the archives, etc.
PS- Hooray for my 100th post!