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I hate prunes, but i do love yellow pea soup.
Now pull my finger, @DarthDimi. And step away from behind me.
I always understood yours.
:D
Yeah, good idea, i never thought of that, i could make a fortune from California.
:)
"Even as far south as Chicago there was nearly a kilometer of ice." Oh, I guess he saw this, because he sure is stating it like he did. :))
He's playing the 'trust MY conclusions, not YOUR real-time observations' card, probably for a bit of attention.
=))
http://www.sott.net/article/277349-Top-scientist-resigns-from-post-admits-Global-Warming-is-a-scam
http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/15/a-physicists-climate-complaints/?_r=0
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2011/11/23/climategate-2-0-new-e-mails-rock-the-global-warming-debate/
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(1) = science
(2) = every other institution in the world
And as both a Canadian and a capitalist(its really not a bad thing. The girl with the lemonade stand is a capitalist) I also do applaud his efforts in exposing the barbarity of the Canadian seal hunt.
I don't actually care that a bunch of Atlantic fishermen types might supposedly depend on the hunt for livelihood. Business models are fluid. They are not meant to last indefinitely. One must always be ready to adapt to changing conditions.
If animals can't be slaughtered humanely than leave them alone.
My issue with the supposedly settled climate change debate, is that it is rife with politics.
In fact the purity of science has been tainted by politics and economic agenda forever.
The Forbes article that @talos linked is excellent.
When Marxist International is marching lockstep with climate change activists, I think we have a problem. ie these cats don't care about the planet anymore than they care about the moon.
They care about tearing down free markets, and setting up collectivist command economies ie bread lines.
All I hear from grandstanding big government agenda driven political types, is that we must have carbon taxes or even worse ruinous cap-and-trade policies, all of which fatten the coffers of big government (what a schock) yet do zilch to actually reduce emissions.
Personally nothing is worth doing unless there is a business model to support it, and that includes saving the planet.
Bigger fatter government is an albatross.
A gradual methodical transition to renewable energy minus hysteria is the responsible approach.
Good progress in reducing dependency on coal fired electricity has been made in NA.
If man is merely adding a bit to an already occurring natural event (my take) just how do we stop it? Answer: we can't.
If man has no part in it whatsoever just how do we stop it? Answer: it's beyond our abilities.
We need to be discussing moving people off low shorelines more than anything else. The BUSINESSES of denial and radical end-of-humanity stuff has to stop.
But I do think belching smoke into the air and dumping crap into rivers can't be a good thing.
I live in a big city. Sky is much cleaner, when one heads north.
So I am all for slowly and steadily creating business models that will allow us to someday transition off fossil fuel dependency.
That time is probably at least 30-40 new Bond movies away. Maybe longer.
In meantime, sure move people off shorelines.
Do recycle like an animal and educate your friends. I'm always amazed at how many people dump obvious recyclables into garbage pails.
Do protest the Canadian seal hunt. There is no actual need for seal products in the world.
Mind you if actual northern aboriginal communities that do actually live off the land for sustenance do kill seals for meat. Fine. That's normal, just as the local Alaskan population hunt caribou for meat.
Do demand that meatpackers, farmers, etc participate in the humane raising and slaughter of livestock.
Roger Moore has done some good work in drawing attention to bird suffering in the processing of foie gras.
We are stewards of the environment.
And when buying a car maybe take into account how emissions friendly it might be.
A very balanced & intelligent post sir! =D>
And of course @dimi who does have actual knowledge of science, so just to be clear, I have read his posts, and do defer to much of his unique experience in such matters, and did learn quite a bit from his scribblings, even if I didn't directly comment.
@patb for sure, the data analysis is an issue. Maybe @dimi can weight in on that.
Me, I tend to be cynical of political motives and various agendas, but that's just me.
But I think we all at least have to make effort to be stewards of the environment.
"Time to face gravity!"
:))
Well it does indeed sound better to 'have the warmest day on human record' then 'we think, considering carbon 14 dating of sediments, that this is the warmes january 5th since the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum 65 million years ago'.
Yes, the earth has been hotter. We weren't there, as we've only been around for about 10.000 years and that has been a pretty cool period. That's exactly why people are worried.
Anyway, I don't really care that much about the global warming in itself, allthough if we don't manage to curb it my home town most certainly will be destroyed. But probably not in my lifetime and who cares about the next generation, right? anyway, we still got all that pollution, fighting-in-the-middle-east-because-of-oil, and an ever-impending end to fossil fuels. Even with digging deeper and destroying even more of the surroundings there is an end to it. Personally, I'd prefer renewable energy sources (yes, I'm referring to that huge thermo-nuclear reactor up in the skies too, yes that will burn out eventually I know) to at least give this planet a few habitual years. Maybe I will find a partner who wants a kid just as much as I do in the future, and I'd prefer it if my child would grow up in a liveable place.