The DANIEL CRAIG Appreciation thread - Discuss His Life, His Career, His Bond Films

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    So they are speculating about the sequal without Fincher but nothing seems to be clear so far, only Bond24 has a date and of the 2 movies I am quite sure that Craig in the next Bond movie will be way more important for Sony.
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    But why opt for one, when you can do both and they can. Things will develop just fine, once they have found their director and forget about Fincher. How I read all this, they are willing to do just that to get it off the ground.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    If Sony really wanted to make The Girl Who Played With Fire it would have happened by now. They've had nearly two years.
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    They were disappointed by the 230 mill it made and obviously hesistant. But why recruiting a new writer, if you don't wanna do it after all? Makes no sense to me. Best thing would be to get rid of Fincher, because his all consuming endless takes makes it really costly. Without him, they can do it for less and make a profit. IMO, that is the plan now.
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    I hope Daniel has the good sense to drop out of TGWPWF. The allure of doing the first movie was clearly his desire to work with Fincher, without the man himself; who cares?

    I hope Craig drops out, I'd much rather see him give his time to another role with more meat than Blomkvist. I feel he bought everything to that character in the Fincher movie, there is little else he could add I think.

    I'd like to see him turn his back on these type of studio movies, and instead (like his wife) devote some time to making smaller more personal indie projects. I want to see Daniel Craig in a movie that doesn't have a $90m+ budget. He seems to have lost touch with his indie roots since doing Bond (arguably he bought his indie roots to Bond with his 3 films).
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, not sure why I worded it so oddly. I re-read what I typed and it really doesn't make sense. I should've stated that it's a shame it isn't moving along faster than I would like it to, and the sooner they get it out, the better.
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    I for one would like to see Craig make the other 2 movies. Really enjoyed the first one. Guess we will have to see how it plays out?
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    Don't get me wrong, Daniel Craig is absolutely wonderful, fantastic as Bond. Save for Dalton he's unquestionably the best in my opinion. Hell, he's even quite near Dalton for me.

    However, having now seen Our Friends in the North, is it wrong that I think he could be even better? Because although he's brilliant as Bond, and his acting has been stellar, it's never reached the levels it did when he was Geordie on OFitN. Am I just wrong here or am I getting at something?
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    No it's not wrong. Craig is a great actor and all he needs is better material to work with. With Purvis and Wade gone, it'll be interesting to see if there's a shift in individual and overall quality of the next 2 Bond movies.
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    Correct me if I'm giving voice to a mistake, but did David Fincher's first Millenium film not wrap up everything quite tidily?
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    doubleoego wrote:
    No it's not wrong. Craig is a great actor and all he needs is better material to work with. With Purvis and Wade gone, it'll be interesting to see if there's a shift in individual and overall quality of the next 2 Bond movies.

    Well he had fantastic material with Casino Royale. No question about that. I don't think it's the material, I think Craig just isn't pulling out all the stops. Maybe he thinks it isn't appropriate for Bond to do the same level of acting that he'd done as Geordie, so he's toned it down a notch or two?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    doubleoego wrote:
    No it's not wrong. Craig is a great actor and all he needs is better material to work with. With Purvis and Wade gone, it'll be interesting to see if there's a shift in individual and overall quality of the next 2 Bond movies.

    Well he had fantastic material with Casino Royale. No question about that. I don't think it's the material, I think Craig just isn't pulling out all the stops. Maybe he thinks it isn't appropriate for Bond to do the same level of acting that he'd done as Geordie, so he's toned it down a notch or two?

    I don't think Dan would ever hold back or give less that 110% to everything he does, judging by just how involved he is with his projects, especially the Bond films. Since his Bond is a more subtle and internal type of character, I don't think playing the role at a higher, more outgoing level would be right for what he is aiming for. The best work I have seen from him are these Bond films, so I have no complaints. He makes Bond interesting and maintains a powerful presence onscreen without even speaking, something I highly commend him for. He has helped make the Bond films character studies.
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    doubleoego wrote:
    No it's not wrong. Craig is a great actor and all he needs is better material to work with. With Purvis and Wade gone, it'll be interesting to see if there's a shift in individual and overall quality of the next 2 Bond movies.

    Well he had fantastic material with Casino Royale. No question about that. I don't think it's the material, I think Craig just isn't pulling out all the stops. Maybe he thinks it isn't appropriate for Bond to do the same level of acting that he'd done as Geordie, so he's toned it down a notch or two?

    I don't think Dan would ever hold back or give less that 110% to everything he does, judging by just how involved he is with his projects, especially the Bond films. Since his Bond is a more subtle and internal type of character, I don't think playing the role at a higher, more outgoing level would be right for what he is aiming for. The best work I have seen from him are these Bond films, so I have no complaints. He makes Bond interesting and maintains a powerful presence onscreen without even speaking, something I highly commend him for. He has helped make the Bond films character studies.

    BRADY!

    Ahem. Well, of course. I didn't mean to imply he hasn't put 100000% percent of what he has into Bond, I just think OFITN was a better performance with Casino Royale at a very close second. That's not to detract from him at all, he's one of the best actors around right now, and indeed of all time.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    doubleoego wrote:
    No it's not wrong. Craig is a great actor and all he needs is better material to work with. With Purvis and Wade gone, it'll be interesting to see if there's a shift in individual and overall quality of the next 2 Bond movies.

    Well he had fantastic material with Casino Royale. No question about that. I don't think it's the material, I think Craig just isn't pulling out all the stops. Maybe he thinks it isn't appropriate for Bond to do the same level of acting that he'd done as Geordie, so he's toned it down a notch or two?

    I don't think Dan would ever hold back or give less that 110% to everything he does, judging by just how involved he is with his projects, especially the Bond films. Since his Bond is a more subtle and internal type of character, I don't think playing the role at a higher, more outgoing level would be right for what he is aiming for. The best work I have seen from him are these Bond films, so I have no complaints. He makes Bond interesting and maintains a powerful presence onscreen without even speaking, something I highly commend him for. He has helped make the Bond films character studies.

    BRADY!

    Yes, my good sir? Can I help you?
    :-/
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    Well you'd been gone a bit. Haha
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited August 2013 Posts: 28,694
    Well you'd been gone a bit. Haha

    Oh, that's what the exclamation was about, haha. I was visiting family a few hours from my town for a little over a week, as is the annual summer tradition.
  • Our Friends In The North is one of the best things I've ever seen on TV and I think it's Craig's best acting performance (same goes for Eccleston and Strong too imo). Definitely a must watch if you haven't seen it.

    Talking about it just makes me want Eccleston in a Bond film even more.
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    Our Friends In The North is one of the best things I've ever seen on TV and I think it's Craig's best acting performance (same goes for Eccleston and Strong too imo). Definitely a must watch if you haven't seen it.

    Talking about it just makes me want Eccleston in a Bond film even more.
    I can see it now.

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  • I finally got around to watching Defiance last night.

    The film has an amazing premise and the fact that it's all true makes it such compelling viewing. Despite the originality of the concept however, I'm rather surprised at how conventional and nuts-and-bolts the film was. For instance we get a flight vs fight subplot, in the camp all the brothers get a conventional love interest, there is the customary prick in camp as well as an intellectual, a teacher and a rabbi, we have our standard warring brothers, the tanks even roll in for the finale and Zus's final appearance is rather cliched. These things don't necessarily make Defiance a bad film but it can't quite live up to the real history that inspired the event.

    I did like it though, I liked the whole theme of Community that runs through the film. These people where able to come together in such a desperate time and able to build a world amid the chaos in the forest. Also I liked the theme of survival vs revenge and which course of action is the best, both have their merits. Another idea the film developed was the talk between the jews hiding in the forest and those who want to rob them of their humanity but how will they act when placed in a situation to fight back. To fight these beasts do they have to become beasts?

    The film is very much an ensemble. Daniel is great in the first act and the revenge killing at the start of the film is really stunning. Tuvia takes an odd turn after that and Daniel is left to deal with large 'inspiring' dialogue scenes. Zwick turns Tuvia into the hero on the white horse (quite literally) and it all becomes rather ham-fisted and lacking in subtly. Tuvia is saved in the third act when his mask begins to drop and we see him become ill and have his leadership questioned. Tuvia stops being so one-note when he turns on the other jew and shoots him and later watches on as the jews attack the captured Nazi. The best scene comes at the end when he realises he can't lead these people and falls to his knees. It's a great acting turn from Daniel, it's just the character lacks consistency.

    Zus is a slightly one-note as well, Liev gives a great turn and Asael has little to do. The film could have been excellant, but instead it seems to come with such a heavy tone which wants to make it clear - 'This Is An Important Film'. The script is also clunky and the attempts at humour are poor. I don't want to sound like I'm hating on the film because I did like and I did find it very compelling drama - if not slightly melodramatic (what more did I really expect from a holocaust film?). But it's an inspiring tale, where the jews are not the victims but instead fight back. A great moment arrives when the Russian Army leader asks the brothers; "Jews don't fight", Tuvia replies; "These Jews do'. It's a good 3 star film.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    Yesterday I read they were doing the first performance, I thought to myself @Germanlady must have it covered and will provide a link ;) Many thanks! For myself I say, keep the news coming.
  • I see the buzz cut has grown out- but would his hair as it is now look right for Bond? Would like to hear people's opinions on that one.
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
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    I actually liked his hair a la QOS. I'm probably a minority in this case.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I too think his QoS hair isn't the travesty most people here claim it to be.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    I liked his haircut in QoS a lot as well. Craig's haircut in Betrayal wouldn't suit Bond but it does suit his character in the play and the setting of the 70's/80's.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    People have given Dan's haircut in QoS criticism? Really? I like it a lot, though I like most things about that film any way. As many have said, his hair as of now is a tad bit too long, but a return to something like QoS where there is enough on top to satisfy would be quite nice. His hair in Skyfall was simply too short.
  • edited October 2013 Posts: 5
    Hi :)
    I'm new here, so I hope you'll accept me as a new member. This is my first post. Why here? Because I love Daniel and I'm jealous of all those who have an opportunity to see him and Rachel live on stage. Unfortunately, it's just a pipe dream for me, but I follow all the news connected with the play and Daniel, of course.
    As far as his haircut for Betrayal is concerned, well, it's very much 70's, as it should be, so don't criticise him for that. I appreciate he doesn't really care if he's hot or not, he's a pure professional, a great actor who wants to do his job well. And he always does.
    I've never seen him play badly, my favourite movies with Daniel are: Enduring Love, Infamous (should've got the Oscar for that), The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Layer Cake ( when I saw him in this one I knew he would be a great Bond - when it was announced), Munich, Road to Perdition (should play more villains - he's excellent), Some Voices (cute and captivating), Defiance, actually I love ALL of his movies, because even if a movie is not so good he makes it great. Take Cowboys and Aliens - thanks to him and his lovely "behind" this movie is just a "must see again " for me :)

    I love his portrayal of Bond - so rough, ruthless, brutal, unforgiving, but also suave, witty ( I love how he delivers humour in this "sarcastic", deadpan way), vulnerable, brooding - definitely the sexiest of them all. In my opinion al least.

    That's it for now,
    regards :)
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I actually liked his hair a la QOS. I'm probably a minority in this case.

    Not a bit.
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