The DANIEL CRAIG Appreciation thread - Discuss His Life, His Career, His Bond Films

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    Wasn't able to find the Skyfall appreciation thread so I'll just say this here. I've just rewatched it and I still find it remarkable in so many accounts. Particularly because we get a film with Ralph Fiennes and Albert Finney sharing scenes with Judy Dench. How brilliant is that? And it's that sort of Bond film we can be unashamed of being a good film on its own right. And it feels so British. Sure it has its narrative faults, but its damn near perfect for me. The cinematography, the song, Craig's portrayal of Bond, the costumes, the DB5, that Tennyson scene, the villain,... It's really a brilliant film, IMO. No matter how NTTD turns out, I'll always be a Craig fan because of SF, even more so than because of CR, which is also a brilliant film. As far as I'm concerned, Barbara Broccoli has brought us GE, CR and SF. And that triad makes it all worth it. For me, she's Queen in the Bond universe because of those. And because this is a Craig thread, I'll add that I hope we'll see a return to form in NTTD. I really want the SF Bond back, whatever that is.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    edited October 2019 Posts: 4,043
    Univex wrote: »
    Wasn't able to find the Skyfall appreciation thread so I'll just say this here. I've just rewatched it and I still find it remarkable in so many accounts. Particularly because we get a film with Ralph Fiennes and Albert Finney sharing scenes with Judy Dench. How brilliant is that? And it's that sort of Bond film we can be unashamed of being a good film on its own right. And it feels so British. Sure it has its narrative faults, but its damn near perfect for me. The cinematography, the song, Craig's portrayal of Bond, the costumes, the DB5, that Tennyson scene, the villain,... It's really a brilliant film, IMO. No matter how NTTD turns out, I'll always be a Craig fan because of SF, even more so than because of CR, which is also a brilliant film. As far as I'm concerned, Barbara Broccoli has brought us GE, CR and SF. And that triad makes it all worth it. For me, she's Queen in the Bond universe because of those. And because this is a Craig thread, I'll add that I hope we'll see a return to form in NTTD. I really want the SF Bond back, whatever that is.

    While CR is my favourite of this era, SF is undoubtedly my 2nd and in my top 5 so I very much echo your thoughts here my friend, I just mentioned I'm very much looking forward to catching this for the first time in over 4 years when I go to see Skyfall in concert, in the NTTD score thread.

    Yes it does have its narrative flaws but it's such a blast of a film, the PTS is top drawer and I don't think it lets up from there on in.

    DC is to my eyes still the Bond we know from CR & QOS just older, wiser and more comfortable in his skin. I seriously can't wait.

  • edited October 2019 Posts: 6,709
    Shardlake wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Wasn't able to find the Skyfall appreciation thread so I'll just say this here. I've just rewatched it and I still find it remarkable in so many accounts. Particularly because we get a film with Ralph Fiennes and Albert Finney sharing scenes with Judy Dench. How brilliant is that? And it's that sort of Bond film we can be unashamed of being a good film on its own right. And it feels so British. Sure it has its narrative faults, but its damn near perfect for me. The cinematography, the song, Craig's portrayal of Bond, the costumes, the DB5, that Tennyson scene, the villain,... It's really a brilliant film, IMO. No matter how NTTD turns out, I'll always be a Craig fan because of SF, even more so than because of CR, which is also a brilliant film. As far as I'm concerned, Barbara Broccoli has brought us GE, CR and SF. And that triad makes it all worth it. For me, she's Queen in the Bond universe because of those. And because this is a Craig thread, I'll add that I hope we'll see a return to form in NTTD. I really want the SF Bond back, whatever that is.

    While CR is my favourite of this era, SF is undoubtedly my 2nd and in my top 5 so I very much echo your thoughts here my friend, I just mentioned I'm very much looking forward to catching this for the first time in over 4 years when I go to see Skyfall in concert, in the NTTD score thread.

    Yes it does have its narrative flaws but it's such a blast of a film, the PTS is top drawer and I don't think it lets up from there on in.

    DC is to my eyes still the Bond we know from CR & QOS just older, wiser and more comfortable in his skin. I seriously can't wait.

    Yep, you mirror, once again, the exact same way I'm feeling today after watching SF. It's just filled with iconic imagery and that cinematography really is a feast to the eyes. And Bond is the Bond that would make narrative sense if we put some years of field work between CR and SF. The character just acts and reacts as it should. It's not the QOS automaton nor the SP pastiche. It's Craig's Bond. And I love it.

    Bond in Istambul
    Komodo dragons in Macau
    DB5 escape to Scotland
    M rescued by future M
    ...
    they're just too many to count. Brilliant, brilliant scenes.
  • Univex wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    I like Dan with his hair longer,suits him.

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    Well Naomie Harris has said recently that we're in for some shocks with NTTD ...
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    Skyfall for me is a weird one. Because on the one hand it is quite a layered film and there is stuff there that you appreciate more on rewatch. But on the other hand, it's never really lived up to that first viewing for me. The magic wore off a bit. I'd still say it's a very good top ten Bond film, but when I first saw it I had it third behind only the Dalton films (my all time favourites). In the end I'd say it's worth rewatching but isn't endlessly rewatchable. Every few years seems about right.

    But to be fair, even though I don't think of it as highly as I did when it first came out, I still think it's a really special film for getting that first reaction. That's why I don't get why so many members on here, who were raving and saying it was top five or even the very best one, have since turned on it so aggressively. I agree that it doesn't hold up as well on rewatches, but I think it's underrated in how nobody really acknowledges that first reaction anymore. The buzz it created. Basically: you might not think it's one of the best anymore, but it still deserves credit for making you think it was at the time.
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    I actually love it more now than I did in 2012. And I loved it in 2012 :)
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Univex wrote: »
    I actually love it more now than I did in 2012. And I loved it in 2012 :)

    Same with me @Univex .... I told @Shardlake recently that I've been going back to SF more and more and more-- and loving it.

    @Shardlake is in for a real treat as he's holding off his next viewing of the film until he sees it live in concert (lucky bugger).
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    peter wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    I actually love it more now than I did in 2012. And I loved it in 2012 :)

    Same with me @Univex .... I told @Shardlake recently that I've been going back to SF more and more and more-- and loving it.

    @Shardlake is in for a real treat as he's holding off his next viewing of the film until he sees it live in concert (lucky bugger).

    Yes I certainly am my friend, I'm sure you'll get the relevance of my new avatar.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Even with some substantial lapses in logic, I find SF immensely rewatchable and definitely in my top ten ; I only wish it had been preceded by one, or preferably two more films with Bond in his prime.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    ohhhhh @Shardlake ... I get it..... Damn. I get it. What could have been... will be...
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Even with some substantial lapses in logic, I find SF immensely rewatchable and definitely in my top ten ; I only wish it had been preceded by one, or preferably two more films with Bond in his prime.

    It has. It's called Bloodstone and it's awesome.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    00Agent wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Even with some substantial lapses in logic, I find SF immensely rewatchable and definitely in my top ten ; I only wish it had been preceded by one, or preferably two more films with Bond in his prime.

    It has. It's called Bloodstone and it's awesome.
    Not quite what I meant.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    talos7 wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Even with some substantial lapses in logic, I find SF immensely rewatchable and definitely in my top ten ; I only wish it had been preceded by one, or preferably two more films with Bond in his prime.

    It has. It's called Bloodstone and it's awesome.
    Not quite what I meant.

    Might not be the same thing but it's still a great transitioning piece from QoS to SF in my opinion, with a good story and performance by Craig.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    00Agent wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Even with some substantial lapses in logic, I find SF immensely rewatchable and definitely in my top ten ; I only wish it had been preceded by one, or preferably two more films with Bond in his prime.

    It has. It's called Bloodstone and it's awesome.
    Not quite what I meant.

    Might not be the same thing but it's still a great transitioning piece from QoS to SF in my opinion, with a good story and performance by Craig.

    Well what a shame that there was not a couple of big screen entries for the film series .
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    talos7 wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Even with some substantial lapses in logic, I find SF immensely rewatchable and definitely in my top ten ; I only wish it had been preceded by one, or preferably two more films with Bond in his prime.

    It has. It's called Bloodstone and it's awesome.
    Not quite what I meant.

    Might not be the same thing but it's still a great transitioning piece from QoS to SF in my opinion, with a good story and performance by Craig.

    Well what a shame that there was not a couple of big screen entries for the film series .

    Hear hear !!

    They had plenty of opportunities.
  • If you think about it then, Craig's Bond has never had a stand-alone mission. I'm reading Diamonds are Forever at the moment. Not considered the greatest Bond novel, but it reads like a true Bond adventure of course. Bond is in London, gets handed his job by M, and gets on a plane off to adventures and stuff. That's never happened in Craig's tenure. The closest he gets is being sent to Casino Royale in Montenegro. In all the others, he's a rouge agent, or working under his own orders.
  • edited October 2019 Posts: 19,339
    shamanimal wrote: »
    If you think about it then, Craig's Bond has never had a stand-alone mission. I'm reading Diamonds are Forever at the moment. Not considered the greatest Bond novel, but it reads like a true Bond adventure of course. Bond is in London, gets handed his job by M, and gets on a plane off to adventures and stuff. That's never happened in Craig's tenure. The closest he gets is being sent to Casino Royale in Montenegro. In all the others, he's a rouge agent, or working under his own orders.

    Yep...and all under one giant storyline ....yawn .

    That's one of the things that bug me,the last time we had an actual 'mission' from the start would be TWINE or you could argue CR but even that wasn't directly a mission.

    DAD : ROGUE (But at least stand-alone).
    CR : Unsure with this one,but definitely not a direct mission from the off.
    QOS : ROGUE
    SF : OUT OF RETIREMENT
    SP : ROGUE
    NTTD : OUT OF RETIREMENT.


  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Good point Barry.

    What we really need is Bond on a true standalone adventure again, in the 21st century.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    shamanimal wrote: »
    If you think about it then, Craig's Bond has never had a stand-alone mission. I'm reading Diamonds are Forever at the moment. Not considered the greatest Bond novel, but it reads like a true Bond adventure of course. Bond is in London, gets handed his job by M, and gets on a plane off to adventures and stuff. That's never happened in Craig's tenure. The closest he gets is being sent to Casino Royale in Montenegro. In all the others, he's a rouge agent, or working under his own orders.

    He is working under orders in SF. It is M who’s gone rogue.
  • I think we take Craig for granted, watching this clip from Naomie in SF, you forgot quite how rugged and handsome he is.....

    His sense of 'cool' mystery is terrific - makes Naomie look a little amateur
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited October 2019 Posts: 5,185
    Funny that the blouse unbuttoning bit was improvised by Daniel.
    Though, looking at it now, how could he not have gone for that lol?
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    I think we take Craig for granted, watching this clip from Naomie in SF, you forgot quite how rugged and handsome he is.....

    His sense of 'cool' mystery is terrific - makes Naomie look a little amateur

    Wonderful. Simply wonderful. I love SF, love that scene, love Naomie...I mean, who could possibly NOT love Naomie after seeing this?
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    edited October 2019 Posts: 4,043
    I don't need Craig gone to realise what we won't have any more.

    The guy is effortless, his natural charisma, the way he moves, there hasn't been an actor so comfortable in his own skin since Connery from the get go like Daniel.

    I hope the next guy can come out the gate like Craig, even Roger took 2 films to cement his take on Bond, from the moment Craig say "yes considerably" I was convinced.

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  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    I think we take Craig for granted, watching this clip from Naomie in SF, you forgot quite how rugged and handsome he is.....

    His sense of 'cool' mystery is terrific - makes Naomie look a little amateur

    Never seen that. Lovely. She comes across as such a nice person. And some of the little things she told us, better than much of the audio commentary stuff you get from directors and stars.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
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    Shardlake wrote: »
    I don't need Craig gone to realise what we won't have any more.

    The guy is effortless, his natural charisma, the way he moves, there hasn't been an actor so comfortable in his own skin since Connery from the get go like Daniel.

    I hope the next guy can come out the gate like Craig, even Roger took 2 films to cement his take on Bond, from the moment Craig say "yes considerably" I was convinced.

    Same. Walking out of the theater in 2006, I was more than convinced; I was certain that this was the best Bond movie since OHMSS if not TB and that Daniel Craig was the greatest Bond since Connery. Still feel that way. As much as I love Lazenby, Moore, Dalton and Brosnan, they all mastered in certain traits of Bond, whether it was charm, humor, intensity or physicality. But Connery and Craig... they each have all of it in one package.

    I can’t tell you how much I’m gonna miss him. I imagine it’ll be like how Bond fans were sad to see Connery go for good in 1971. Connery made the series for me originally. Craig revitalized it, brought me back in a big way, to stay.
    Some time after NTTD comes out, I’d love to try to thank him in some way, via Twitter or something... I don’t know.
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