The DANIEL CRAIG Appreciation thread - Discuss His Life, His Career, His Bond Films

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  • edited November 2022 Posts: 784
    I've greatly enjoyed Daniel Craig for a long time and respect him for how he conducts himself and his personal life.

    That was not Daniel Craig. As noted good to see him enjoying himself.

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    Love him in that sketch!
  • edited November 2022 Posts: 4,139
    I've greatly enjoyed Daniel Craig for a long time and respect him for how he conducts himself and his personal life.

    That was not Daniel Craig. As noted good to see him enjoying himself.

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    yeah-daniel-craig.gif
    smug-daniel-craig.gif

    I'm really not a fan of SNL, but I have to say, whoever did the cinematography on that sketch did a fantastic job. It actually looks like a Bond film.

    And Daniel enjoying himself is always fun to watch, even if I don't find this particular one very funny. I do enjoy the Catherine Tate sketch though.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    The ads dad dance moves was choreographed by Beyonce's choreographer.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited November 2022 Posts: 2,016
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah something about it feels a bit cynical to me, and perhaps not all that fresh ideas-wise. Plus I have an increasing aversion to Taika Waititi, and I couldn't help but notice he contrives to get his face into it. But it's just an ad I guess.

    I don't understand Taika...to be honest. Everything's a joke to him. Give him a good script and he turns it into a joke. He keeps turning even the most alpha of males into jokes. I hope he's a nice man in real life though, since he over does comedy in his works.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I've only seen two Waititi films: Hunt for the Wilderpeople, which I loved, and Jojo Rabbit, which I thought was awful and really overrated.
  • Posts: 4,139
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah something about it feels a bit cynical to me, and perhaps not all that fresh ideas-wise. Plus I have an increasing aversion to Taika Waititi, and I couldn't help but notice he contrives to get his face into it. But it's just an ad I guess.

    I don't understand Taika...to be honest. Everything's a joke to him. Give him a good script and he turns it into a joke. He keeps turning even the most alpha of males into jokes. I hope he's a nice man in real life though, since he over does comedy in his works.

    I think that sort of comedy is just his thing. You can see it in his early and independent work (even a drama like Hunt for The Wilderpeople is a very comedic film, and certainly his earlier movies like What We Do In The Shadows and Boy).

    It's why they hired him for Thor: Ragnarok - because they wanted that movie to be more 'fun' compared to the previous two. I can see why. And to be fair I'd argue the script for Ragnarok isn't great (he didn't write it). It's his directing and the way he had the actors approach the role (presumably improvise) that makes it enjoyable to watch. Love and Thunder's a different story.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah something about it feels a bit cynical to me, and perhaps not all that fresh ideas-wise. Plus I have an increasing aversion to Taika Waititi, and I couldn't help but notice he contrives to get his face into it. But it's just an ad I guess.

    I don't understand Taika...to be honest. Everything's a joke to him. Give him a good script and he turns it into a joke. He keeps turning even the most alpha of males into jokes. I hope he's a nice man in real life though, since he over does comedy in his works.

    I think that sort of comedy is just his thing. You can see it in his early and independent work (even a drama like Hunt for The Wilderpeople is a very comedic film, and certainly his earlier movies like What We Do In The Shadows and Boy).

    It's why they hired him for Thor: Ragnarok - because they wanted that movie to be more 'fun' compared to the previous two. I can see why. And to be fair I'd argue the script for Ragnarok isn't great (he didn't write it). It's his directing and the way he had the actors approach the role (presumably improvise) that makes it enjoyable to watch. Love and Thunder's a different story.

    Yeah. Love and Thunder is a different story indeed. I think he reached his nadir with it. I couldn't even finish the film.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah something about it feels a bit cynical to me, and perhaps not all that fresh ideas-wise. Plus I have an increasing aversion to Taika Waititi, and I couldn't help but notice he contrives to get his face into it. But it's just an ad I guess.

    Allegedly it took quite a bit of convincing from DC for Taika to do that scene at the end. But who knows the reality of it.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    To think that Dan will actually be within punching distance of James Corden...
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Venutius wrote: »
    To think that Dan will actually be within punching distance of James Corden...

    And vice versa.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited November 2022 Posts: 3,152
    Does Dan deserve to be punched, though? Not that Corden could actually make a fist, let alone throw it, obvs.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Does Dan deserve to be punched, though? Not that Corden could actually make a fist, let alone throw it, obvs.

    Let s see what happens. I would be happy, either way.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Harsh, Thunderfinger, harsh! :D
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Does Dan deserve to be punched, though? Not that Corden could actually make a fist, let alone throw it, obvs.

    Let s see what happens. I would be happy, either way.

    Not a fan of Daniel?
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    peter wrote: »

    My man crush is officially complete.

    Yep. Mine too.

    I am just six weeks younger than DC. I need to get my ass in shape.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    That's a pretty good line-up.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Cool. Daniel is always great on Graham Norton, he always seems to enjoy himself
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    Daniel Craig’s Belvedere Vodka Commercial Is a State-of-the-Art Display of a Movie Star Changing Up His Image
    https://variety.com/2022/film/columns/daniel-craig-belvedere-vodka-commercial-taika-waititi-1235431457

    A really great analysis of the Belvedere Ad from Variety.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited November 2022 Posts: 4,629
    A excerpt from Being Bond by Mark Salisbury. Not mine!

    The part about NTTD’s scripting process sure is interesting.

    Hodge’s script began in similar fashion to Purvis and Wade’s with Bond retired, this time in Majorca, where trouble again comes calling. The story took in Namibia and Russia before going into outer space with a giant rocket. “It had a very different tone. It felt like a pastiche in a way,” says Wade. “It also had this idea that M had ordered a hit on Bond, which didn’t ring true.”
    In their version, Bond still died at the end, but Boyle and Hodge created a new love interest, Maria, although the producers insisted the character be changed to Madeleine Swann to continue the love story from SPECTRE.”
    Purvis and Wade said their original plan was to have the poison garden in Cuban silos where the missile crisis weapons were housed, and there was going to be a hurricane as “a way of getting big, original action into the movie without it feeling like endless explosions.” They had a treatment that added Pompeii to Jamaica and Cuba, and the poison garden was relocated to Japan.

    Interesting information. Maybe Boyle and Hodge should have been given “Story By” credits.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Christ, now I'm even happier that Boyle jumped ship! :-O
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited November 2022 Posts: 16,383
    I like the idea of the hurricane. Bond vs. Weather would be something new.
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Daniel Craig’s Belvedere Vodka Commercial Is a State-of-the-Art Display of a Movie Star Changing Up His Image
    https://variety.com/2022/film/columns/daniel-craig-belvedere-vodka-commercial-taika-waititi-1235431457

    A really great analysis of the Belvedere Ad from Variety.

    I’m not sure I’d call it ‘state of the art’ though. It really is just the weapon of choice video again. It feels old hat to me. Not even sure I’d buy that Craig was first choice for it.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    mtm wrote: »
    I like the idea of the hurricane. Bond vs. Weather would be something new.

    Kim Sherwood does something along the lines with weather in Double or Nothing. But for cinematic Bond, it would be a nice change.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    And Hurricane Gold of course.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    The more I find out about the Boyle and Hodge script the more I'm relived they didn't do it either.

    My only question is how did it get so far along? I mean most gadgets feel too out of place in the Craig era, let alone Bond going to space again
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    The original P&W script sounds fantastic! I bet that's what they turn in for 26 first. Weather machine/weather plot.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Yeah, I quite liked the idea of the hurricane bit - then I remembered The Equaliser 2 and...well, y'know...
  • edited November 2022 Posts: 4,139
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    A excerpt from Being Bond by Mark Salisbury. Not mine!

    The part about NTTD’s scripting process sure is interesting.

    Hodge’s script began in similar fashion to Purvis and Wade’s with Bond retired, this time in Majorca, where trouble again comes calling. The story took in Namibia and Russia before going into outer space with a giant rocket. “It had a very different tone. It felt like a pastiche in a way,” says Wade. “It also had this idea that M had ordered a hit on Bond, which didn’t ring true.”
    In their version, Bond still died at the end, but Boyle and Hodge created a new love interest, Maria, although the producers insisted the character be changed to Madeleine Swann to continue the love story from SPECTRE.”
    Purvis and Wade said their original plan was to have the poison garden in Cuban silos where the missile crisis weapons were housed, and there was going to be a hurricane as “a way of getting big, original action into the movie without it feeling like endless explosions.” They had a treatment that added Pompeii to Jamaica and Cuba, and the poison garden was relocated to Japan.

    Interesting information. Maybe Boyle and Hodge should have been given “Story By” credits.

    I suspect it was the producer's idea to begin the story with a retired Bond receiving a last mission 'off the books' as it were. So regardless of the director/scriptwriter the film would always have begun with that premise.

    The thing about the hurricane sounds great, very original. The ending of NTTD feels a bit rushed and like it was tailored in post-production (stuff like the random buyer ships always felt to me like it was inserted with VFX in post to add some sort of 'ticking clock' and amp up the tension) so perhaps such an idea would have helped. I also hope it's used in a later film.

    Boyle/Hodge's script sounds wild. I always compare it to Anthony Burgess' unmade TSWLM script in terms of just how off the wall it sounds. I'm not quite sure why it ended up being so overblown and strange, especially considering they always refer to it as being 'Cold War'-esque in interviews which would suggest something more grounded. The going into space thing is a bit strange in that sense. I wonder if it was a case where both Hodges and Boyle perhaps let things get away from them (I imagine it's quite fun writing a Bond film, and you can certainly get away with a lot of outlandishness, but I also suspect it's easy to unintentionally drift into pastiche, which is the phrase Wade used there). It's definitely for the best it didn't get made.
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